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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 5, 2018 11:25:35 GMT -5
Wow had not seen that yet! Love it! |
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Post by morning_rain on Nov 5, 2018 17:35:48 GMT -5
I just watched it 5 times in a row! I can't believe I'm hyped at this release. |
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Post by matt on Nov 5, 2018 18:09:56 GMT -5
Yep, me too. it has a couple of good tunes but it's one of their worst albums with Let It Be. Then again, i also think Revolver, Abbey Road and The White Album are much better than Sgt. Pepper, but i only say that objectively as a person that was born decades after they were released and appreciate that Sgt. Pepper must've been mind blowing at the time. That's mostly a testament to how great they were that you can make a decent argument for one of the best albums of all time still being only their 3rd of 4th best or something. I like Revolver, Abbey Road, Magical Mystery Tour and Rubber Soul all better than Sgt. Pepper. It's still fantastic though. I think Sgt Pepper as an album is the best executed. Certainly the most consistent in its themes and musical styles. But I definitely don’t have an issue with yourself putting it as the fifth or sixth best Beatles album Mean Mrs. Mustard! Although it is sad when you see some smart arse critics try to be all hip and say it isn’t great at all. The professional critics/revisionists who say it’s not that great today are usually those who have an issue with McCartney’s music hall japes and use it to find fault with everything, even the stuff he didn’t write. Yet I find that part of the appeal, the idea of taking old fashioned music hall traditions of Edwardian England and popularising it within the contemporary trends of that period. They may call it whimsical in style but this is the type of music that was rooted in popular culture in England pre-war and meant a great deal to huge swathes of the population. A lot of the psychedelic music of that era was meandering self-indulgent nonsense (that was a pre-cursor to the worst excesses of prog rock) yet The Beatles turned it on its head by rooting it within the cultural tropes of yesteryear yet maintaining that psychedelic surrealism. It appealed to tradition yet was also very progressive in its outlook and execution (lyrically and musically). This is a quality that escaped most of their peers in my opinion. It’s always up for debate as to what is the greatest Beatles album but I think it’s harsh that Sgt Pepper is put down a lot these days. |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Nov 5, 2018 23:20:49 GMT -5
Don't know how this guy got this so early. Looks amazing. Friday!!!!
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 6, 2018 5:33:25 GMT -5
I like Revolver, Abbey Road, Magical Mystery Tour and Rubber Soul all better than Sgt. Pepper. It's still fantastic though. I think Sgt Pepper as an album is the best executed. Certainly the most consistent in its themes and musical styles. But I definitely don’t have an issue with yourself putting it as the fifth or sixth best Beatles album Mean Mrs. Mustard ! Although it is sad when you see some smart arse critics try to be all hip and say it isn’t great at all. The professional critics/revisionists who say it’s not that great today are usually those who have an issue with McCartney’s music hall japes and use it to find fault with everything, even the stuff he didn’t write. Yet I find that part of the appeal, the idea of taking old fashioned music hall traditions of Edwardian England and popularising it within the contemporary trends of that period. They may call it whimsical in style but this is the type of music that was rooted in popular culture in England pre-war and meant a great deal to huge swathes of the population. A lot of the psychedelic music of that era was meandering self-indulgent nonsense (that was a pre-cursor to the worst excesses of prog rock) yet The Beatles turned it on its head by rooting it within the cultural tropes of yesteryear yet maintaining that psychedelic surrealism. It appealed to tradition yet was also very progressive in its outlook and execution (lyrically and musically). This is a quality that escaped most of their peers in my opinion. It’s always up for debate as to what is the greatest Beatles album but I think it’s harsh that Sgt Pepper is put down a lot these days. Nicely put. Although Pepper's only my fourth favourite, I must say, whenever I've got it on I never wanna turn it off. Part of that is how short and snappy it is, as most of the Beatles albums are--if you've made it halfway through, what's the point in turning it off with only 20 minutes left to go? But it's also incredibly cohesive. And there's everything you could want from The Beatles as they were at that time: perfectly crafted pop, experimental epics, music hall camp, introspection, mysticism, silliness, pathos... So it's a real trip, all in less than three quarters of an hour, and without lurching you this way and that, like the White Album does. Considering the blow dealt to them by their record company, when they took 'Strawberry Fields Forever' and 'Penny Lane', three months before the album would come out, and made a double A-side out of them, it's amazing how they just carried on after that, and didn't get disheartened, and produced something so strong and colourful. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2018 8:07:19 GMT -5
I wonder why tracks like Lady Madonna, Across The Universe and The Inner Light were included? They are all from early early 1968. Pre India. Pre White Album sessions. I don’t really consider them part of that period. I always have. Then why did they leave Hey Bulldog off? Might as well lump them all together. I personally count all those songs are the gap post Pepper and Pre White Album. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 6, 2018 11:43:56 GMT -5
Then why did they leave Hey Bulldog off? Might as well lump them all together. I personally count all those songs are the gap post Pepper and Pre White Album. Because it was on the Yellow Submarine soundtrack album, together with Only Northern Song, All Together Now, It's All Too Much etc.? Hey Bulldog should have been on the white album imo. What a waste to put it on a soundtrack lp. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 7, 2018 12:46:22 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 7, 2018 12:50:28 GMT -5
Looking forward to a deep dive on this reissue/remaster.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 7, 2018 14:44:07 GMT -5
"The world had to invent the Monkees to get over the White Album."
Haha. Love that.
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 7, 2018 15:25:49 GMT -5
Hot-take of sorts, but I think the last twenty-five seconds of Cry Baby Cry could make a great sample.
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Post by Headmaster on Nov 7, 2018 19:38:58 GMT -5
"The world had to invent the Monkees to get over the White Album." Haha. Love that. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Nov 8, 2018 2:43:07 GMT -5
It took me at least five minutes to realize that that was Andy Bell on that panel. Man he got old!
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 8, 2018 8:40:10 GMT -5
Such a wonderful opening drum fill from Ringo on ‘Hey Jude’.
It pleased me to hear that Paul (or his producer Greg Kurstin) had brought that very dampened snare sound back for some of his most recent solo songs.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 8, 2018 12:35:36 GMT -5
It took me at least five minutes to realize that that was Andy Bell on that panel. Man he got old! Every time I see him he’s aged 10 years. First he went grey. Then he got permanent bags under his eyes, and crow’s feet. Now his hair’s thinning. I’m fully expecting to see him with pipe and slippers next time Ride have got an album to tour, keeping his teeth in a glass of water on top of his amp. Bless him, he’s not been lucky. To think how much better the Gallagher’s look, even after all the naughty things they shoved up their noses, and smoked. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 8, 2018 12:50:33 GMT -5
It took me at least five minutes to realize that that was Andy Bell on that panel. Man he got old! Every time I see him he’s aged 10 years. First he went grey. Then he got permanent bags under his eyes, and crow’s feet. Now his hair’s thinning. I’m fully expecting to see him with pipe and slippers next time Ride have got an album to tour, keeping his teeth in a glass of water on top of his amp. Bless him, he’s not been lucky. To think how much better the Gallagher’s look, even after all the naughty things they shoved up their noses, and smoked. It looks like he’s trying to dress and look like Ethan Hawke but failing. |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Nov 8, 2018 20:26:29 GMT -5
Hey Jude Take one. Are you kidding me. Amazing.
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 8, 2018 20:34:30 GMT -5
Halfway through Revolution 9 at the moment, the whole album sounds nice and fresh. Still think it's cluttered with a lot of unnecessary songs but a lot of them have grown on me, too. Hey Jude should obviously have been on there. Can't wait to dive into all the other treats here!
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 8, 2018 20:51:27 GMT -5
Some of these these new mixes are pretty fucking radical. Gonna take a LOT of getting used to.
Almost certain the original stereo mix for ‘Yer Blues’ will remain my go-to. I know you’ve gotta give time to adjust, but Ringo’s drums sound so tame now compared with how they did before. What the fuck happened? His fills are the stars of the show on that track! 😩😭
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 8, 2018 20:59:54 GMT -5
Can You Take Me Back? could have been a really cool groove of a tune.
McCartney's quiet version of Why Don't We Do it in the Road?, haha.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 8, 2018 21:21:26 GMT -5
Fuck me, Honey Pie sounds AMAZING.
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 8, 2018 21:30:05 GMT -5
Okay, on first listen through, looks like this is my new White Album playlist:
1. Back in the USSR
2. Dear Prudence
3. Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da
4. Glass Onion
5. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
6. Martha My Dear
7. I’m So Tired
8. Happiness is a Warm Gun
9. Blackbird
10. Everybody’s Got Something to Hide
11. Why Don’t We Do it in the Road?
12. I Will
13. Julia
14. Birthday
15. Yer Blues
16. Sexy Sadie
17. Helter Skelter
18. Revolution 1
19. Hey Jude
20. Cry Baby Cry (Esher Version)
21. Revolution 9
22. Good Night
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Nov 8, 2018 21:52:59 GMT -5
Fuck me, Honey Pie sounds AMAZING. I assume you mean disc 6 six, song 10. Beautiful track. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 8, 2018 23:08:17 GMT -5
My White Album playlist...............................
Back in the U.S.S.R.
Dear Prudence
Glass Onion
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
Wild Honey Pie
The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Happiness is a Warm Gun
Martha My Dear
I’m so tired
Blackbird
Piggies
Rocky Raccoon
Don’t Pass Me By
Why don’t we do it in the road?
I Will
Julia
Birthday
Yer Blues
Mother Nature’s Son
Everybody’s Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey
Sexy Sadie
Helter Skelter
Long, Long, Long
Revolution I
Honey Pie
Savoy Truffle
Cry Baby Cry
Revolution 9
Good Night
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 9, 2018 5:07:12 GMT -5
Fuck me, Honey Pie sounds AMAZING. I assume you mean disc 6 six, song 10. Beautiful track. Nah, I’ve not listened to any of the extras yet. I was just talking about the new mix. All Macca’s softer songs come out really well. Martha My Dear is another one. |
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