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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 11, 2019 11:02:36 GMT -5
Irony free forum members complain about the manipulation of history by someone they don't like after previous manipulation of history by someone they do like.
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Post by Rolo on Jun 11, 2019 11:06:36 GMT -5
The truth hurts kids.
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Post by chamu on Jun 11, 2019 11:08:44 GMT -5
Irony free forum members complain about the manipulation of history by someone they don't like after previous manipulation of history by someone they do like. Same members with the same posts every day I can´t understand why they post on Liam´s forum every fucking day if they don´t like anything related about Liam...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 11:10:11 GMT -5
Irony free forum members complain about the manipulation of history by someone they don't like after previous manipulation of history by someone they do like. They can both be d!cks.
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Post by Rolo on Jun 11, 2019 11:10:28 GMT -5
What makes me laugh is I could actually tell you exactly the members who wouldn't really like Shockwave or As It Was before they were released. It's proper weird.
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Post by aesthetic on Jun 11, 2019 11:13:44 GMT -5
Most normal human beings grow out of this phase by their early 20s. Anybody over the age of about 22 who still carries on like this is a prize nobhead of the highest order and needs their head kicking in. And I think that even applies to Liam himself in all honesty. The way he carries himself for a bloke approaching 50 is painfully cringey.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 11, 2019 11:19:01 GMT -5
Irony free forum members complain about the manipulation of history by someone they don't like after previous manipulation of history by someone they do like. Same members with the same posts every day I can´t understand why they post on Liam´s forum every fucking day if they don´t like anything related about Liam... Boring and sad isn't it, but its same every album cycle. A few people around here are absolutely desperate for him to fail and when he doesn't they come back worse.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 11:20:03 GMT -5
Most normal human beings grow out of this phase by their early 20s. Anybody over the age of about 22 who still carries on like this is a prize nobhead of the highest order and needs their head kicking in. And I think that even applies to Liam himself in all honesty. The way he carries himself for a bloke approaching 50 is painfully cringey. Then why are you watching a documentary about him? What or who is normal anyway...
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 11, 2019 11:20:44 GMT -5
There's another one. They must be coordinated or on some sort of rota.
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Post by martinpaul on Jun 11, 2019 11:28:05 GMT -5
The best thing about Twitter, Liam's comeback and subsequent higher profile is we get to hear his side of the story. A huge part of the problem around the break up of Oasis is Noel controlled the media narrative for almost 20 years.
Liam has been consistent since 2009 about Gordan Smart hanging about, being mates with Noel and printing stories leaked by Noel / Sara.
This is Liam's turn to tell a part of the story from his view, it's bound to not agree with everyone.
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Post by bestwick8 on Jun 11, 2019 11:35:38 GMT -5
After watching this I wish I had a Debbie in my life...
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Jun 11, 2019 11:37:36 GMT -5
Thanks again to the mega uploader for this.
Was able to stream it on my HDTV last night, damn good rip.
As for the film, I agree with a previous poster that it starts out incredibly well with Liam's struggles then hits a snag in the middle, definitely not as engaging as Supersonic. I went in to it with high hopes because of the director that had done the Conor McGregor doc but this went fell short of that by quite a margin.
And I don't think it was as harsh on Noel as others here claim, there are clips shown of Noel that make him look bad all on his own especially the one where he says "No i performed my songs" basically discounting the rest of Oasis, quite douchey IMO. And in the end you get the feeling LG genuinely loves Noel and is frustrated he can't even speak to him.
One big omission was almost zero mention of Wall of Glass and FWIW, arguably his two big solo singles, dafuq was that about?
ALl in all I'd say it's a 3 out of 5 for me.
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Post by mancraider on Jun 11, 2019 11:39:11 GMT -5
Forgetting everything else, if I was in a band with someone and they were leaking stories about me to the scumbags at the Sun I'd have a big problem with it.
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Post by jeffrey on Jun 11, 2019 11:51:04 GMT -5
I essentially idolize LG, so it’s no surprise, but I loved it!
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Post by aesthetic on Jun 11, 2019 12:02:08 GMT -5
Then why are you watching a documentary about him? That's a pretty poor argument. There are plenty of people I'm not a fan of but would happily watch a documentary about to gain some insight into their story. Liking someone isn't a prerequisite for watching a film about them. I'm hoping that the documentary provides some sort of insight into why he still feels the needs to act like a 21 year old at the age of 46, maybe show a bit more of a human side to him. And I'm also hoping for some further details on the Oasis split and "that" night in Paris. Plus Bonehead is in at as well and he is always good value for money.
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Post by bogaloo on Jun 11, 2019 12:12:28 GMT -5
The best thing about Twitter, Liam's comeback and subsequent higher profile is we get to hear his side of the story. A huge part of the problem around the break up of Oasis is Noel controlled the media narrative for almost 20 years. Liam has been consistent since 2009 about Gordan Smart hanging about, being mates with Noel and printing stories leaked by Noel / Sara. This is Liam's turn to tell a part of the story from his view, it's bound to not agree with everyone. I get where you are coming from with this perspective, but I still have issues with it. It would be perfectly acceptable if we were talking about someone that had no means to defend himself. This is not the case with Liam. Liam had a high profile back then. As high as Noel's. I don't believe journalists wouldn't have given him the time of day for an interview, had Liam wanted to set the record straight and tell his side of the story. It is not like he was an annonymous with no voice outside social media.
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Post by shinpad on Jun 11, 2019 12:24:03 GMT -5
20 minutes to finish it off,but I had to go to bed. To be honest the film is about throwing shit to Noel. It's quite disgusting honestly. The first part of the movie was great,because they showed how Liam struggled after Beady Eye,and I've never seen him in that human way before. But the way they told the story is unfair. I understand they were angry because of Noel threatening them with reclaming the rights of the Oasis songs. But what a shit film honestly. It shines when they show Liam as a human being,in the car with his sons,the scenes before doing a gig with Debs,Liam speaking with Pegster...etc. But the rest? Pure fucking rubbish. Wow, I did not get this impression from it at all.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 11, 2019 12:31:05 GMT -5
Most normal human beings grow out of this phase by their early 20s. Anybody over the age of about 22 who still carries on like this is a prize nobhead of the highest order and needs their head kicking in. And I think that even applies to Liam himself in all honesty. The way he carries himself for a bloke approaching 50 is painfully cringey. Another irony free forum member states he wants people who haven't grown up to have their heads kicked in, presumably by people who in his opinion have indeed grown up. This forum has been gold today.
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Post by Rolo on Jun 11, 2019 12:43:44 GMT -5
he wants people who haven't grown up to have their heads kicked in Do you not subscribe to the notion that a stern beating can teach you a few life lessons? Most, if not all, of the Liam Gallagher wannabes who I have experienced are mentally immature, boorish, piss flingers who clearly never learned what it is like to be a grown up, and normally end up ruining the fun for everyone and anyone around them with their nobheadery, while unironically citing "it's rock n roll m8" as an excuse for their behaviour. By the way I'm not talking about all Liam fans here, far from it. I'm referring to the type of people that OP referred to in their post i.e. the people who want to actually be Liam. Christ.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jun 11, 2019 12:47:58 GMT -5
I'm waiting for my DVD from my friend in Manchester to arrive and I'm really looking forward to watch it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 12:58:23 GMT -5
Then why are you watching a documentary about him? I'm hoping that the documentary provides some sort of insight into why he still feels the needs to act like a 21 year old at the age of 46. if the guy is enjoying his life what does it actually matter exactly? does it effect you? thought not.
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Post by ee on Jun 11, 2019 13:12:40 GMT -5
As It Was isn't about slagging Noel off.
But when it comes to throwing shit, Noel's already thrown too much shits to Liam with the media during the Oasis era. Especially around 2008-2009, Noel talked too much shits about Liam to the press, not only to his journalist mate but also to the various press interviews. Most of his interviews had that shit, as far as I remember. And don't forget his shitty press conference.
I don't mind if Liam's got his own version of story to defend himself or hurt the other brother. Noel'd got the media, and now Liam's got the twitter. They just keep doing the same to each other in their own way.
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Post by joladella on Jun 11, 2019 13:12:59 GMT -5
My DVD came today! Nice surprise, it was supposed to come on Thursday. See, already paid off that I bought it twice.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jun 11, 2019 13:19:23 GMT -5
got mine today aswell, wasnt due to tomorrow
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Post by bt95 on Jun 11, 2019 14:02:41 GMT -5
The impression I got from Paul's bits of the film was that he felt that Noel should've prioritised family ties over everything that came before when Liam started circling the drain. Yeh which is fair enough. But it seemed that the main thing about that bit was that it was going to be Liam asking Noel to get Oasis back together? Like, would that really have been good? Surely that would have just made things worse really. The fact Liam needed to crawl to Noel to get Oasis back together. It would just have made Noel 'win'. I'm not defending Noel for not even picking up the phone or whatever. I'm not blaming Liam. I'm just glad he got himself out of his own hole.
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