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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 13:34:05 GMT -5
wow that is dreadful, seems like the relationship is in a much worse state than was thought tbh.
I wonder when Liam has tried to reach out because his constant bashing of Noel might be a result of those shunned attempts which would be rather understandable if Noel wasnt even interested in giving him the time of day.
that is sad, no other way to say it really and when you consider that it was really over nothing.....well, that we know of.
from the information we know of, I really see no reason why Noel would behave in such a way. Its not liam killed anyone.
Was revisiting some Noel interviews and I found this: So even if they werent in the best of terms, before 2017 I think there was a chance of them speaking again and slowly rebuilding their relationship. Not to get Oasis back together, but as brothers. Now it's almost impossible. As sad as it sounds, I'm sure they'll have to speak and face eachother when Peggy dies. And I dont know if that will make things better or even worse between them. I think there must be something going on with Noels wife, seems odd to me that Liam suddenly started bringing her into the equation. He's certainly developed a distaste for her in the last couple years. Publicly anyway.
probably more going on behind the scenes, cant believe this is all over a bust up in oasis. I doubt Liam or Noel would ever talk about it because its not our business but there seems to be a fair amount of passive aggression being passed around.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 13:39:43 GMT -5
Liam's and Paul's relationship is heartwarming. It's sad if Noel has no contact with Paul either. And the reasoning behind it is even more sad. Didn't Liam say in an interview that it was just because Paul didn't rate Chasing Yesterday? The reasons for Paul and Noel’s issues (if there are any) have never been made public by Liam or anyone else.
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Post by vespa on Jun 8, 2019 14:27:24 GMT -5
They will speak again at some point but Noel is very stubborn ..his wife is apparently the big issue from reading into things ,I think Liam said once she was hiding Noel’s passport etc and Liam’s bought that to light and it’s upset Noel ,she seems to have destroyed the family in a way and this will have bothered Paul aswell, I also think he will have an issue with regards to Noel’s stubbornness ..the taking the music out the film as well is shocking ,I think that be Noel’s management though ,anything to make Noel money he’d have ..but they will sort it one day no doubt because the money offered is rising
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 8, 2019 15:16:22 GMT -5
And the reasoning behind it is even more sad. Didn't Liam say in an interview that it was just because Paul didn't rate Chasing Yesterday? The reasons for Paul and Noel’s issues (if there are any) have never been made public by Liam or anyone else. Paul confirmed on Instagram that he has no relationship whatsoever with Noel. I think it was out of order when Gene called Anais her dad in a wig. It was around all that time, combined with the comments about his wife that seemed to be when the chances of reuniting became 0. I do always wonder how Liam got that screenshot of the texts between Anais and Noel about One Love though?
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 8, 2019 15:21:15 GMT -5
I think the fact Noel didnt reach out when Liam was at his lowest pretty much proves its done. If you're not going to do it then, then when are you going to?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 15:35:46 GMT -5
The reasons for Paul and Noel’s issues (if there are any) have never been made public by Liam or anyone else. Paul confirmed on Instagram that he has no relationship whatsoever with Noel. I think it was out of order when Gene called Anais her dad in a wig. It was around all that time, combined with the comments about his wife that seemed to be when the chances of reuniting became 0. I do always wonder how Liam got that screenshot of the texts between Anais and Noel about One Love though? I think the chances of a reunion have been zero since Noel quit the band. Teenage cousins having a little spat on twitter (that she started btw) had nothing to do with it.
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Post by pedrobrasil on Jun 8, 2019 15:45:05 GMT -5
Anais and gene were on the same party one time.Even they took a Picture together.It seems by the time that they had a good relantionship.A couple weeks later she made some tweets saying that liam dont even write his songs.Than gene called her a snake and Noel with a wig.I think noel got upset with that.This happened after a friend of anais complain because he wasnt succeed buying liam tickets. The reasons for Paul and Noel’s issues (if there are any) have never been made public by Liam or anyone else. Paul confirmed on Instagram that he has no relationship whatsoever with Noel. I think it was out of order when Gene called Anais her dad in a wig. It was around all that time, combined with the comments about his wife that seemed to be when the chances of reuniting became 0. I do always wonder how Liam got that screenshot of the texts between Anais and Noel about One Love though?
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Post by daviesh on Jun 8, 2019 15:47:12 GMT -5
Sad that it seems a 2nd generation of Gallagher's will continue the feud. Poor Peggy.
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 8, 2019 15:55:42 GMT -5
Paul confirmed on Instagram that he has no relationship whatsoever with Noel. I think it was out of order when Gene called Anais her dad in a wig. It was around all that time, combined with the comments about his wife that seemed to be when the chances of reuniting became 0. I do always wonder how Liam got that screenshot of the texts between Anais and Noel about One Love though? I think the chances of a reunion have been zero since Noel quit the band. Teenage cousins having a little spat on twitter (that she started btw) had nothing to do with it. Well Noel has said himself that eventually the money would have become so much that he would have just done it. But that period ruined any chances of that. I think calling his daughter that, and saying loads of shit about his wife is exactly why there's no going back
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 16:00:45 GMT -5
I think the chances of a reunion have been zero since Noel quit the band. Teenage cousins having a little spat on twitter (that she started btw) had nothing to do with it. Well Noel has said himself that eventually the money would have become so much that he would have just done it. But that period ruined any chances of that. I think calling his daughter that, and saying loads of shit about his wife is exactly why there's no going back So it's a good thing then, band reunions only because of money are usually horrible.
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 8, 2019 16:10:21 GMT -5
Well Noel has said himself that eventually the money would have become so much that he would have just done it. But that period ruined any chances of that. I think calling his daughter that, and saying loads of shit about his wife is exactly why there's no going back So it's a good thing then, band reunions only because of money are usually horrible. Yeah, I think itd be alot better than the Stone Roses one but i get your point. If it happened and then Liam and Noel were not talking with each other, itd basically just be like DOYS tour. One of the reasons i love the DBTT era is because they were all getting on so well. Something clearly happened before the DOYS period that started the beginning of the end.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jun 8, 2019 16:12:47 GMT -5
And the reasoning behind it is even more sad. Didn't Liam say in an interview that it was just because Paul didn't rate Chasing Yesterday? The reasons for Paul and Noel’s issues (if there are any) have never been made public by Liam or anyone else. I'm sure Liam said something on the As You Were tour about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 16:20:14 GMT -5
watching that clip from the film about once, I think its pretty warming to watch debbie sat there whilst Liam is recording vocals for it. I think he struck gold with her, she's essentially brought him back from the brink by the sounds of it and she's always there in the background.
Think debbie probably deserves a lot of credit for what is going on now.
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Post by Jago88 on Jun 8, 2019 17:51:54 GMT -5
Can't seem to buy a digital version of it in Canada. Any way I can get my hands on this tonight? The GF is out tonight so I have a chance to watch in peace, I assumed i could buy it on iTunes or Amazon
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Jun 8, 2019 18:04:10 GMT -5
Hate to be so morbid on a Saturday night, but: As someone said above, I think the sad reality is that their eventual mother’s passing may be the only chance they have of a reconciliation. Not a reunion, but just being brothers again.
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Post by tommybarrs on Jun 8, 2019 18:50:48 GMT -5
Such a shame that Noel refused Liam to play any of the Oasis songs.... Was shocked he didn't put Outta Time on the Movie/Doc though as it's his tune, for me one of the best Oasis songs of the last 20 years. Great Watch.
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Post by mancraider on Jun 8, 2019 19:04:29 GMT -5
Such a shame that Noel refused Liam to play any of the Oasis songs.... Was shocked he didn't put Outta Time on the Movie/Doc though as it's his tune, for me one of the best Oasis songs of the last 20 years. Great Watch. he wasn't allowed to use any Oasis music, even songs he wrote.
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Post by tezza198 on Jun 8, 2019 19:08:18 GMT -5
Noel’s a middle aged grumpy asshole.
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Post by bestwick8 on Jun 8, 2019 20:35:50 GMT -5
Anyone know if this is up for "download" anywhere for the rest of us in Canada !?
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Post by shinpad on Jun 9, 2019 0:11:02 GMT -5
I can't believe no one has leaked this for those of us who can't legally buy it anywhere.
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Post by birthdaycakes7 on Jun 9, 2019 0:21:43 GMT -5
yeah can someone please leak it
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jun 9, 2019 0:32:58 GMT -5
one thing I have noticed is how when oasis split people seemingly went after Liam like a pack of rabid dogs and worshiped Noels feet yet now the tables have completely flipped in many ways. I honestly wouldnt be surprised if Noel makes a comeback in some years and releases another more classic album and suddenly everyone will be in love with Noel again. maybe Im wrong and people have just wised up to the idea that Liam isnt actually the person that he was portrayed as but its somewhat fake of some fans to rip into Liam over the beady eye years and now suddenly only have love for him.......much of the same as someone abandoning you when you needed them and then showing back up when you are doing well. Im not sure some fans were even open to the idea of beady eye. Agreed, especially the last line. I think this is what fuels a lot of Liam's bitterness towards Noel - I don't think Beady Eye were ever going to reach the same levels of popularity as he or Noel have solo, but they were actually ticking along ok until Noel's infamous press conference where he blamed Liam for the split. That seemed to kill any momentum they had and it seemed like open season after that, especially when he (falsely) blamed the cancelled V Festival gig on Liam being hungover. Liam had had plenty of digs at Noel before that but had never really commented on the split, other than "we had an argument but we've had bigger arguments before". That fucking press conferenc. That was so ridiculous and I was really feeling shame. It was that momemt that chamged noel in my eyes and simce then he is not the same for me. I still love the music and look forward to his releases but this was such a pretentious cocky move, that made me think "what a twat".
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Post by tezza198 on Jun 9, 2019 1:48:58 GMT -5
I thought the film was good. About half way through I think the momentum was lost a bit and they really should have built it up to the big gigs at the cricket ground and finsbury lord knows why they didn’t include that...that was the pinnacle of his comeback. Crazy
Still, I enjoyed it especially the first half
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 5:18:30 GMT -5
Hate to be so morbid on a Saturday night, but: As someone said above, I think the sad reality is that their eventual mother’s passing may be the only chance they have of a reconciliation. Not a reunion, but just being brothers again. I never had much to do with my aunt due to family issues until my grandad passed away and it pretty much washed the slate clean and started talking again because it simply made you realise that life is too short to fall out over stupid shit and we knew he would want our family back together.
sad thing is we didnt realise that before he passed away and because of that I think they will regret not trying to work things out now rather than later because Im sure peggy would want her sons to reconcile. It can't be nice for her to see this stuff play out.
problem is, they might not even reconcile even at that point if the relationship is beyond repair, it could just force a wider gap between them because they no longer have that person in the middle trying to get them to talk again and simply being a person they both care for. Almost a situation where there would be no longer any reason for Noel to remain part of the family because he clearly doesnt talk to paul or his father either so peggy is the only member he still bothers with.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 5:26:36 GMT -5
So sad, and although it’s most likely, we can’t assume it’ll be Peggy that’s first. Life is cruel and relentless at taking people away too young, I know myself this pain is unbearable and I’m sure many of you do too, let’s hope they all sort out their differences before the inevitable.
This thread has got morbid; on a brighter note the poofy cushion scene in the extras is brilliant!! 😊😊😊
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