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Post by bestwick8 on Jun 9, 2019 8:33:52 GMT -5
The performance afterwards has been leaked, that’s about it...
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jun 9, 2019 8:44:24 GMT -5
Shit meg is a snake in the garden.
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Post by frogerz on Jun 9, 2019 9:46:04 GMT -5
I thought the film was very good, more for the hardcore fans than casuals though. It's a shame they were unable to have Oasis tracks in there as it would have made it a lot better for the One Love bits etc.
You have to feel bad for Peggy that the brothers can't get along. I get they'll never be in a band together but to be amicable with each other would be a start.
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Post by Sadie on Jun 9, 2019 10:56:45 GMT -5
Liam's and Paul's relationship is heartwarming. It's sad if Noel has no contact with Paul either. And the reasoning behind it is even more sad. Didn't Liam say in an interview that it was just because Paul didn't rate Chasing Yesterday? The only thing I've ever seen to suggest that those 2 don't get on is a Noel interview in 2017 I think where he claimed that both his brothers are fucking idiots, so as conclusive as that sounds I'd love to know how that all started. Particularly as Paul was a DJ at Noel's gigs in the early NGHFB days as far as I'm aware. I remember seeing on twitter that someone posted a screenshot of when they'd messaged Paul on instagram about whether a reunion will happen and his response was 'ask Sara'. Very interesting indeed |
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Post by Sadie on Jun 9, 2019 11:03:50 GMT -5
The reasons for Paul and Noel’s issues (if there are any) have never been made public by Liam or anyone else. Paul confirmed on Instagram that he has no relationship whatsoever with Noel. I think it was out of order when Gene called Anais her dad in a wig. It was around all that time, combined with the comments about his wife that seemed to be when the chances of reuniting became 0. I do always wonder how Liam got that screenshot of the texts between Anais and Noel about One Love though? When did Paul explicitly say that he doesn't have a relationship with Noel? It all just seems very bizarre. I don't know when this was originally from but I found the audio from a Noel interview a while ago saying that Liam is the one responsible for tearing the family apart, whereas to me it seems as though it's the exact opposite |
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Post by Jgrp on Jun 9, 2019 11:06:01 GMT -5
I’d put my flat on it being Noel. He’s not straight up and is manipulative
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Post by birthdaycakes7 on Jun 9, 2019 11:39:35 GMT -5
Question: iTunes has it available on the 7th, if we are from other countries outside the UK can we just change stores and pre-order like normal and watch it on the 7th? You'll have to sign out, create a new account, and buy a £10 UK iTunes gift card (you can easily find them with email delivery on Amazon or eBay). Shouldn't be too much work. I've done it once before and it took about 5 minutes. Edit: To your question, yeah as long as you've got the account set up you can pre order and watch it on the 7th. There's nothing that stops you from being able to watch the movie outside of the UK so no VPN is needed  Currently giving this a go. Is it normal for eBay sellers to ask for your phone number as verification when purchasing a code? |
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Post by bestwick8 on Jun 9, 2019 12:23:51 GMT -5
You'll have to sign out, create a new account, and buy a £10 UK iTunes gift card (you can easily find them with email delivery on Amazon or eBay). Shouldn't be too much work. I've done it once before and it took about 5 minutes. Edit: To your question, yeah as long as you've got the account set up you can pre order and watch it on the 7th. There's nothing that stops you from being able to watch the movie outside of the UK so no VPN is needed Currently giving this a go. Is it normal for eBay sellers to ask for your phone number as verification when purchasing a code? Let us know if this works! |
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Post by seanrulesrh on Jun 9, 2019 12:46:03 GMT -5
Has it leaked?
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jun 9, 2019 13:27:53 GMT -5
Apologies if I have started a rumour there... I may have simply mis remembered something. I'm sure there was an interview early doors of AYW were Liam said Noel doesn't talk to Paul, either. I wanna say it was REALLY early doors and might have been on one of the BBC stations.
I'm a fucking idiot, though so am probably wrong
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 9, 2019 16:47:42 GMT -5
Paul confirmed on Instagram that he has no relationship whatsoever with Noel. I think it was out of order when Gene called Anais her dad in a wig. It was around all that time, combined with the comments about his wife that seemed to be when the chances of reuniting became 0. I do always wonder how Liam got that screenshot of the texts between Anais and Noel about One Love though? When did Paul explicitly say that he doesn't have a relationship with Noel? It all just seems very bizarre. I don't know when this was originally from but I found the audio from a Noel interview a while ago saying that Liam is the one responsible for tearing the family apart, whereas to me it seems as though it's the exact opposite Someone recently asked him on Instagram what his relationship with Noel is. He replied "we don't have one. Simple as that" |
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 9, 2019 17:38:06 GMT -5
 Agreed, especially the last line. I think this is what fuels a lot of Liam's bitterness towards Noel - I don't think Beady Eye were ever going to reach the same levels of popularity as he or Noel have solo, but they were actually ticking along ok until Noel's infamous press conference where he blamed Liam for the split. That seemed to kill any momentum they had and it seemed like open season after that, especially when he (falsely) blamed the cancelled V Festival gig on Liam being hungover. Liam had had plenty of digs at Noel before that but had never really commented on the split, other than "we had an argument but we've had bigger arguments before". That fucking press conferenc. That was so ridiculous and I was really feeling shame. It was that momemt that chamged noel in my eyes and simce then he is not the same for me. I still love the music and look forward to his releases but this was such a pretentious cocky move, that made me think "what a twat". You know what, you're bang on with this. I feel the exact same. To anyone who was a casual fan or just an outsider, there's nothing but a witty Noel doing what he always does. To me as a big fan, I seen the biggest and clearest example of the sheer level of cold and calculated Noel I've ever witnessed. And not just that, the level of control he had in dictating exactly what the media and general public thought of Liam. People on "team noel" downplay this massively and will disagree with everything I say. But even fucking Andy Bell went on a foul mouthed rant about how many lies Noel told in that. It was disgusting really and shown him in a whole new light. Really gave me a big insight into how much power he had, and how much he was prepared to see Liam suffer. |
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 9, 2019 17:40:35 GMT -5
Btw anyone notice it wasn't just the solo songs used but also 95% songs just written by solely Liam?
I could be wrong but from memory there was Soul Love, Morning Son, the bonus songs he wrote, When I'm In Need, Ive All I need.
The only solo song he didn't write solely that I can remember was a quite brief usage of Wall Of Glass.
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Post by mancraider on Jun 9, 2019 17:45:09 GMT -5
Btw anyone notice it wasn't just the solo songs used but also 95% songs just written by solely Liam? I could be wrong but from memory there was Soul Love, Morning Son, the bonus songs he wrote, When I'm In Need, Ive All I need. The only solo song he didn't write solely that I can remember was a quite brief usage of Wall Of Glass. yeah you're right. Have to say though I didn't think it suffered from the lack of Oasis songs. I've heard all those songs before hundreds of times anyway. Watching it didn't really feel like a music documentary anyway, more like a human story about Liam as a person. |
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 9, 2019 17:59:57 GMT -5
Btw anyone notice it wasn't just the solo songs used but also 95% songs just written by solely Liam? I could be wrong but from memory there was Soul Love, Morning Son, the bonus songs he wrote, When I'm In Need, Ive All I need. The only solo song he didn't write solely that I can remember was a quite brief usage of Wall Of Glass. yeah you're right. Have to say though I didn't think it suffered from the lack of Oasis songs. I've heard all those songs before hundreds of times anyway. Watching it didn't really feel like a music documentary anyway, more like a human story about Liam as a person. I feel like it was obvious to people who knew where the Oasis songs clearly were going to go. Like I can't believe they used all my people all mankind over the montage of One Love. One of my only big gripes. But overall you are right - it was more a reflection of this time after Oasis. That isn't to say it wouldn't have had alot more emotional impact to hear the Live Forever performance. I mean, we've all heard Wonderwall a million times but there was something spine tingling about it in Supersonic. |
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Post by bt95 on Jun 9, 2019 18:16:35 GMT -5
Really enjoyed that. The best bits were when it wasn't so dramatic, like, and it was just Liam being the funny fucker he is. Would have liked more of that rather than the 'Noel did this, Noel did that' stuff. We've heard it all before - but I get why it was in there. Think CL wanted to try and replicate the meaningfulness of Supersonic in those moments and maybe just missed the mark, but certainly not by much!
Don't really care that there were no Oasis songs, it worked fine without them. This isn't about Oasis, it was about Liam (which is why I do find it strange they made so much of an emphasis on Noel throughout). Anyway, great watch and I'll be sure to watch it again in the next few days I'm sure.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 9, 2019 18:17:36 GMT -5
Such a shame that Noel refused Liam to play any of the Oasis songs.... Was shocked he didn't put Outta Time on the Movie/Doc though as it's his tune, for me one of the best Oasis songs of the last 20 years. Great Watch. he wasn't allowed to use any Oasis music, even songs he wrote. No mate, he could have put I'm Outta Time On. Charlie Lightning said so himself on the Oasis Podcast. They just chose not to. |
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Post by mancraider on Jun 9, 2019 18:20:25 GMT -5
he wasn't allowed to use any Oasis music, even songs he wrote. No mate, he could have put I'm Outta Time On. Charlie Lightning said so himself on the Oasis Podcast. They just chose not to. Not according to the other director, gavin? He specifically says the weren't allowed to. |
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Post by bt95 on Jun 9, 2019 18:20:58 GMT -5
I thought the film was very good, more for the hardcore fans than casuals though. It's a shame they were unable to have Oasis tracks in there as it would have made it a lot better for the One Love bits etc. You have to feel bad for Peggy that the brothers can't get along. I get they'll never be in a band together but to be amicable with each other would be a start. When a good portion of a doc about one brother's brilliant come back is dedicated to slagging the other off, it's not gonna help. Debbie summed it up better than anyone at the end. "Liam's had some harsh treatment, but he's brought a lot on himself, he knows that. He's impulsive and silly." There's such a blame-game mentality in life now. With everything. It's easier to lay blame at others than take responsibility. Well the best thing out of the film for me was that the two people who in the main didn't play the blame game were Liam and Debbie. And they're the ones who will be responsible for taking this further than it has gone already. |
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Post by bt95 on Jun 9, 2019 18:21:21 GMT -5
No mate, he could have put I'm Outta Time On. Charlie Lightning said so himself on the Oasis Podcast. They just chose not to. Not according to the other director, gavin? He specifically says the weren't allowed to. Well someone's got crossed wires then, haha! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 18:21:38 GMT -5
he wasn't allowed to use any Oasis music, even songs he wrote. No mate, he could have put I'm Outta Time On. Charlie Lightning said so himself on the Oasis Podcast. They just chose not to. pretty sure there was an interview where he or someone else said that they couldnt use any oasis even the stuff Liam wrote because we were discussing it, on how Noel could even block songs penned by Liam himself.
so if he did say that then there is clearly some case of misunderstanding from someone.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 9, 2019 18:24:52 GMT -5
No mate, he could have put I'm Outta Time On. Charlie Lightning said so himself on the Oasis Podcast. They just chose not to. pretty sure there was an interview where he or someone else said that they couldnt use any oasis even the stuff Liam wrote because we were discussing it, on how Noel could even block songs penned himself.
so if he did say that then there is cleary some case of misunderstanding from someone.
Aye. I'll have to go back and listen to the pod but I'm almost certainly Charlie said that they were gonna use IOT and then decided against it. |
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Post by mancraider on Jun 9, 2019 18:26:06 GMT -5
pretty sure there was an interview where he or someone else said that they couldnt use any oasis even the stuff Liam wrote because we were discussing it, on how Noel could even block songs penned himself.
so if he did say that then there is cleary some case of misunderstanding from someone.
Aye. I'll have to go back and listen to the pod but I'm almost certainly Charlie said that they were gonna use IOT and then decided against it. "When I came onto the documentary at a later stage of production, we were under the impression that we could use Oasis music. But Noel owns the publishing rights to all of that music so if he refuses, you can’t use any Oasis songs," said Fitzgerald. "Then we thought we could use songs that Liam had written and performed for Oasis, but Noel strummed a guitar on those tracks too and he refused those songs also. It’s a little bitter, maybe it’s his way of getting back at Liam for the stuff that he says about him," added the director. www.joe.ie/movies-tv/heres-new-liam-gallagher-documentary-answers-touchy-noel-question-671525 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 18:50:53 GMT -5
Interesting that Debbie mentions that Liam has tried to reach out 'several times'. I wonder if she means privately, or just the public ones we know about. Also, very sad that Noel has not given his number to his mum, in case she gives it to Liam. That is fucking horrendous Like father, like son. When one of Noel's kids says his old man tried to beat him to death in the hallway of his house, then you can say "like father, like son." Not before. |
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Post by bt95 on Jun 9, 2019 18:52:02 GMT -5
Liam's and Paul's relationship is heartwarming. It's sad if Noel has no contact with Paul either. They were definitely fine a few years ago. Dunno if something's happened since then. |
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Agreed, especially the last line.
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