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Post by carl80 on Jun 7, 2019 20:08:00 GMT -5
Thought the film was excellent, nice mix of some Oasis footage, Beady eye and then leading up to the solo stuff including the pub in Ireland and Glastonbury, would have liked to have heard some audio for the Manchester arena gig instead of just footage but I thought the interviews where excellent and overall it’s a nice one to go with supersonic.
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Post by jxing on Jun 7, 2019 20:15:16 GMT -5
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Post by mancraider on Jun 7, 2019 20:21:45 GMT -5
don't know why they don't just whack it on Netflix worldwide. Job done, then everyone can see it. What if we don't have Netflix? dunno, I hadn't really thought it out in that much detail to be honest. Sign up to Tinder and find someone to chill with? |
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Post by Flying Potato on Jun 7, 2019 20:49:37 GMT -5
Can someone please help, this is killing me. How can someone outside the UK watch it now? I’ve tried to purchase it from all the streaming services including iTunes but they all say it cannot be bought outside the UK. It’s ridiculous that all the other people in the world can’t buy it but the UK can! I used British ip address, then I had to buy Amazon gift card because Amazon would not let me use my actual credit card but it was totally worth it. Great documentary. I think I love Liam even more and it's such a shame Noel won't speak to him. Once at the end was phenomenal, can't wait for the album. |
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Post by birthdaycakes7 on Jun 7, 2019 21:12:57 GMT -5
can someone leak it already
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Post by shannee on Jun 7, 2019 21:53:08 GMT -5
I ordered the movie, a region 2 blueray player, and a converter plug from amazon uk with priority shipping for 97$. Hopefully it works out because I ain't waiting until Sept. I have quite a few other region 2 dvds anyway. And I need to be able to watch the Gavin and Stacey xmas special. Don't know if that will be on dvd or streaming or what.
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Post by NicOasis on Jun 7, 2019 21:53:14 GMT -5
It's crazy he couldn't use his own songs that he is famous for though... Noel is an idiot Remember when Liam was slagging Noel and his family? Liams just as much an idiot. At this point who can out petty who. I don't like Liam saying Noel wouldn't let him use the songs because "they're all he has", those songs he wrote are all over your setlists too Liam. |
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Post by Jack on Jun 7, 2019 22:17:14 GMT -5
AIW is available now on Curzon's streaming site btw. As an employee at Curzon, I get to watch it for free!  |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 8, 2019 4:56:21 GMT -5
I'll tell you what. It was a fucking thrill hearing those Beady Eye songs in the cinema last night. So underrated. The film pretty much writes them off, but man, there's so much of it to love. If Liam had disappeared after Oasis and re-appeared as Liam Gallagher with some of those Beady Eye songs, he'd have been as popular as he is now. Totally agree. I think anything Liam did back then was always doomed to fail, and As You Were was the perfect storm after Supersonic, but Beady Eye's best songs were as good as (if not better) than anything on As You Were. Four Letter Word and Flick of the Finger were excellent. I still think they completely fucked up releasing Bring The Light first. They tried to prove they weren't just Oasis-lite by releasing the most un-Oasis sounding song they had but all they did was alienate a lot of the Oasis fanbase. I wonder how things would have turned out if they'd released Four Letter Word first? |
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Post by tezza198 on Jun 8, 2019 5:29:16 GMT -5
It’s all good I figured it out....it pays to have friends in the UK with a bank account. If anyone outside of the UK wants to know how I did it PM me. I gotta listen to shockwave for the first time now + once here we go!
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Post by tezza198 on Jun 8, 2019 5:57:11 GMT -5
I finally listened to stockwave and Once. Jesus Christ....SW is great 8/10 but HOLY FUCK....Once is incredible oh my god. It has potential to be one of the best Gallagher written tunes ever written
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 6:11:53 GMT -5
one thing I have noticed is how when oasis split people seemingly went after Liam like a pack of rabid dogs and worshiped Noels feet yet now the tables have completely flipped in many ways.
I honestly wouldnt be surprised if Noel makes a comeback in some years and releases another more classic album and suddenly everyone will be in love with Noel again.
maybe Im wrong and people have just wised up to the idea that Liam isnt actually the person that he was portrayed as but its somewhat fake of some fans to rip into Liam over the beady eye years and now suddenly only have love for him.......much of the same as someone abandoning you when you needed them and then showing back up when you are doing well.
Im not sure some fans were even open to the idea of beady eye.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 8, 2019 10:58:57 GMT -5
one thing I have noticed is how when oasis split people seemingly went after Liam like a pack of rabid dogs and worshiped Noels feet yet now the tables have completely flipped in many ways. I honestly wouldnt be surprised if Noel makes a comeback in some years and releases another more classic album and suddenly everyone will be in love with Noel again. maybe Im wrong and people have just wised up to the idea that Liam isnt actually the person that he was portrayed as but its somewhat fake of some fans to rip into Liam over the beady eye years and now suddenly only have love for him.......much of the same as someone abandoning you when you needed them and then showing back up when you are doing well. Im not sure some fans were even open to the idea of beady eye.  Agreed, especially the last line. I think this is what fuels a lot of Liam's bitterness towards Noel - I don't think Beady Eye were ever going to reach the same levels of popularity as he or Noel have solo, but they were actually ticking along ok until Noel's infamous press conference where he blamed Liam for the split. That seemed to kill any momentum they had and it seemed like open season after that, especially when he (falsely) blamed the cancelled V Festival gig on Liam being hungover. Liam had had plenty of digs at Noel before that but had never really commented on the split, other than "we had an argument but we've had bigger arguments before". |
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Post by endstation on Jun 8, 2019 11:23:07 GMT -5
This clip is about the one love concert and I think they’ve dealt with it very sensitively while not using live forever Yeah, well I think that particular scene is awkward, they're talking about the entire crowd singing "Live forever" in homage to the victims & we can't hear a single note of it, instead we've got a voiceover & another song... Noel really hamstringed "As it was" by denying the rights to include any Oasis song. Guess all is fair in brotherly love & war... I kind of liked the fact that no Oasis songs were included. Made the documentary feel more personal and focused on Liam. |
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Post by standbymoi on Jun 8, 2019 11:36:07 GMT -5
I'll tell you what. It was a fucking thrill hearing those Beady Eye songs in the cinema last night. So underrated. The film pretty much writes them off, but man, there's so much of it to love. If Liam had disappeared after Oasis and re-appeared as Liam Gallagher with some of those Beady Eye songs, he'd have been as popular as he is now. Totally agree. I think anything Liam did back then was always doomed to fail, and As You Were was the perfect storm after Supersonic, but Beady Eye's best songs were as good as (if not better) than anything on As You Were. Four Letter Word and Flick of the Finger were excellent. I still think they completely fucked up releasing Bring The Light first. They tried to prove they weren't just Oasis-lite by releasing the most un-Oasis sounding song they had but all they did was alienate a lot of the Oasis fanbase. I wonder how things would have turned out if they'd released Four Letter Word first? Also agree. That or Flick of the Finger should of been the first thing everyone heard. Imagine if BE was their first album with Four Letter Word, Roller and the Morning Son replacing the 3 weakest, would’ve been a different story. That first album had a lot of press in the UK, the free download obviously and I remember the Sun newspaper front page on a Saturday had ‘Liam’s New Band’ with a free CD. They played every big uk festival covered on BBC. But they blew their first impression on the masses with Bring the Light. So by the time they got to releasing BE they’d been written off by everyone and probably hadn’t earned enough money from DGSS to justify putting it into promoting BE. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 11:36:59 GMT -5
one thing I have noticed is how when oasis split people seemingly went after Liam like a pack of rabid dogs and worshiped Noels feet yet now the tables have completely flipped in many ways. I honestly wouldnt be surprised if Noel makes a comeback in some years and releases another more classic album and suddenly everyone will be in love with Noel again. maybe Im wrong and people have just wised up to the idea that Liam isnt actually the person that he was portrayed as but its somewhat fake of some fans to rip into Liam over the beady eye years and now suddenly only have love for him.......much of the same as someone abandoning you when you needed them and then showing back up when you are doing well. Im not sure some fans were even open to the idea of beady eye. Agreed, especially the last line. I think this is what fuels a lot of Liam's bitterness towards Noel - I don't think Beady Eye were ever going to reach the same levels of popularity as he or Noel have solo, but they were actually ticking along ok until Noel's infamous press conference where he blamed Liam for the split. That seemed to kill any momentum they had and it seemed like open season after that, especially when he (falsely) blamed the cancelled V Festival gig on Liam being hungover. Liam had had plenty of digs at Noel before that but had never really commented on the split, other than "we had an argument but we've had bigger arguments before". I think Liams comeback within his solo career is something that probably pisses Noel off tbh. I think Noel enjoyed the idea that Liam was in this rather mediocre band that wasnt particularly selling all that well because he was in control and maybe he liked the idea that he was finally getting the success whilst Liam had to take a backseat. Everyone was saying about how Liam was probably begging for a reunion and Noel held all the cards....beady eyes failure just strengthed the image of Noels importance to oasis. He was the mastermind.
.....then suddenly Liam joins warner brothers and secures himself a very successful venture. All Noel can do is go back to his insults about songwriters because its his only ace hes got in his head. Liam didnt write the songs so therefore it doesnt count.
Liam has always prodded Noel but Noel has only seemed to get bitter about it since Liam released as you were, almost like the success aspect of it is part of his problem.
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Post by mancraider on Jun 8, 2019 11:45:51 GMT -5
Agreed, especially the last line. I think this is what fuels a lot of Liam's bitterness towards Noel - I don't think Beady Eye were ever going to reach the same levels of popularity as he or Noel have solo, but they were actually ticking along ok until Noel's infamous press conference where he blamed Liam for the split. That seemed to kill any momentum they had and it seemed like open season after that, especially when he (falsely) blamed the cancelled V Festival gig on Liam being hungover. Liam had had plenty of digs at Noel before that but had never really commented on the split, other than "we had an argument but we've had bigger arguments before". I think Liams comeback within his solo career is something that probably pisses Noel off tbh. I think Noel enjoyed the idea that Liam was in this rather mediocre band that wasnt particularly selling all that well because he was in control and maybe he liked the idea that he was finally getting the success whilst Liam had to take a backseat. Everyone was saying about how Liam was probably begging for a reunion and Noel held all the cards....beady eyes failure just strengthed the image of Noels importance to oasis. He was the mastermind.
.....then suddenly Liam joins warner brothers and secures himself a very successful venture. All Noel can do is go back to his insults about songwriters because its his only ace hes got in his head. Liam didnt write the songs so therefore it doesnt count.
Liam has always prodded Noel but Noel has only seemed to get bitter about it since Liam released as you were, almost like the success aspect of it is part of his problem.
I've actually always thought that the biggest factor wasn't so much Noel's press conference but the fact that Beady Eyes management abandoned them half way through that first tour. Can't have been easy to deal with mid tour. |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jun 8, 2019 11:51:18 GMT -5
Interesting that Debbie mentions that Liam has tried to reach out 'several times'. I wonder if she means privately, or just the public ones we know about.
Also, very sad that Noel has not given his number to his mum, in case she gives it to Liam. That is fucking horrendous
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jun 8, 2019 11:57:23 GMT -5
Interesting that Debbie mentions that Liam has tried to reach out 'several times'. I wonder if she means privately, or just the public ones we know about. Also, very sad that Noel has not given his number to his mum, in case she gives it to Liam. That is fucking horrendous Like father, like son. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 12:04:59 GMT -5
Interesting that Debbie mentions that Liam has tried to reach out 'several times'. I wonder if she means privately, or just the public ones we know about. Also, very sad that Noel has not given his number to his mum, in case she gives it to Liam. That is fucking horrendous wow that is dreadful, seems like the relationship is in a much worse state than was thought tbh.
I wonder when Liam has tried to reach out because his constant bashing of Noel might be a result of those shunned attempts which would be rather understandable if Noel wasnt even interested in giving him the time of day.
that is sad, no other way to say it really and when you consider that it was really over nothing.....well, that we know of.
from the information we know of, I really see no reason why Noel would behave in such a way. Its not liam killed anyone.
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Post by jxing on Jun 8, 2019 12:57:44 GMT -5
I think it bothers noel that liam has achieved success without him. I really believe that Noel, as much as he complained, enjoyed that liam's success was always connected & controlled by him. I look at it as a ex-boyfriend not wanting his ex-girlfriend but not wanting her to move on happily with someone else... weird analogy but it works.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jun 8, 2019 13:11:05 GMT -5
Liam's and Paul's relationship is heartwarming. It's sad if Noel has no contact with Paul either. And the reasoning behind it is even more sad. Didn't Liam say in an interview that it was just because Paul didn't rate Chasing Yesterday? |
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Post by Rolo on Jun 8, 2019 13:14:58 GMT -5
Liam's and Paul's relationship is heartwarming. It's sad if Noel has no contact with Paul either. And the reasoning behind it is even more sad. Didn't Liam say in an interview that it was just because Paul didn't rate Chasing Yesterday? It'll all come out one day I'm sure. |
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Post by bogaloo on Jun 8, 2019 13:21:33 GMT -5
Interesting that Debbie mentions that Liam has tried to reach out 'several times'. I wonder if she means privately, or just the public ones we know about. Also, very sad that Noel has not given his number to his mum, in case she gives it to Liam. That is fucking horrendous Where did you get this info from, the documentary? Elsewhere? I'm not at home and haven't had the chance to watch it yet! |
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Post by oasismashups on Jun 8, 2019 13:28:38 GMT -5
Interesting that Debbie mentions that Liam has tried to reach out 'several times'. I wonder if she means privately, or just the public ones we know about. Also, very sad that Noel has not given his number to his mum, in case she gives it to Liam. That is fucking horrendous wow that is dreadful, seems like the relationship is in a much worse state than was thought tbh.
I wonder when Liam has tried to reach out because his constant bashing of Noel might be a result of those shunned attempts which would be rather understandable if Noel wasnt even interested in giving him the time of day.
that is sad, no other way to say it really and when you consider that it was really over nothing.....well, that we know of.
from the information we know of, I really see no reason why Noel would behave in such a way. Its not liam killed anyone.
Was revisiting some Noel interviews and I found this: So even if they werent in the best of terms, before 2017 I think there was a chance of them speaking again and slowly rebuilding their relationship. Not to get Oasis back together, but as brothers. Now it's almost impossible. As sad as it sounds, I'm sure they'll have to speak and face eachother when Peggy dies. And I dont know if that will make things better or even worse between them. |
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