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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 14:51:08 GMT -5
I think having Oasis songs in there would help Noel which is why it's such a strange move. Especially when Noel hasn't sold out a reduced capacity hometown gig yet. I'm sure the more casual fans watching might want to check out both brothers and go to a gig. He's not banning Oasis songs, if I read Liam's twitter right, just the footage from the One Love concert. Maybe this is more to do with broadcast rights than it's-my-turn-to-be-a-dick rights? |
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Post by mancraider on Feb 19, 2019 14:57:26 GMT -5
He is probably just against the One Love footage because he got a lot of shit over it and doesn't want it dragging back up.
Anyway seen someone on IG comment it has been sorted and film is going ahead, maybe just BS-ing but hopefully it's all been a storm in a tea cup ( and maybe a PR exercise)
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Post by lalaland on Feb 19, 2019 14:57:50 GMT -5
I think having Oasis songs in there would help Noel which is why it's such a strange move. Especially when Noel hasn't sold out a reduced capacity hometown gig yet. I'm sure the more casual fans watching might want to check out both brothers and go to a gig. It seems that the legal issue is about 1 song, not Oasis songs as a whole. Therefore, it shouldn't be a problem to just edit it out with no real loss to the quality and narrative of the doc. Likewise, whether that 1 song is in or out won't have any effect on Noel's success / career etc. In that sense, it's kind of a non-story really IMO |
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Post by sgtpeppr on Feb 19, 2019 18:50:14 GMT -5
it kind of makes sense if its just DLBIA from one love. even tho theyre all noel's songs, DLBIA seems even more so. for oasis fans, it was a big deal that liam actually sung it after all these years...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 18:55:04 GMT -5
it kind of makes sense if its just DLBIA from one love. even tho theyre all noel's songs, DLBIA seems even more so. for oasis fans, it was a big deal that liam actually sung it after all these years... He didn't sing it in One Love though. |
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Post by mossy on Feb 19, 2019 20:07:02 GMT -5
Looking at the replies to Liam’s tweet I can only conclude that there are some incredibly thick people using Twitter. X
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Post by mostlyharmless on Feb 19, 2019 20:14:14 GMT -5
A lot of that might be true if their story had started as soon as Noel’s press conference ended in 2011. Also should be noted that your cynicism seems to aimed in only one direction.direction Y'know, I actually re-watched that press conference yesterday. Liam isn't slated it it particularly. Noel describes his version of events - the fight etc, and the Pretty Green thing. That's it. Says Liam's probably better off without him because he's in charge (of Beady Eye, obviously). The only jibe is that laryngitis thing. And the quote is "He missed the V festival. Said he had laryngitis. Whatever." Totally get the message that Noel was getting across was trying to slander Liam, but people seem to be making a big deal that this presser was some kind of anti-Liam charge. It wasn't really. There were no jokes at Liam's expense. Clearly anger, but that was it. It's funny how people remember things, ey, or at least choose to. Noel/Ignition are doing something dickish here. It leaves a sour taste. I'm sure they have their reasons and legally they'll be within their rights. I don't think it's the right thing to do. Liam isn't innocent. People should stop pretending he is. It doesn't make this latest incident right, though. He said they canceled the V festival because Liam had a hungover. The hangover comment triggered the slander lawsuit later. That’s hardly “no jokes at Liam’s expense”, not to mention he also throw unnecessary jibe at Andy. That press conference is mainly for Noel’s new solo project so of course it’s not a anti-Liam charge from beginning to end. He just used every opportunity he had to set his narrative, in which all faults were on others. It’s funny how people not only choose to remember things, but also choose to observe things as they like. |
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Post by sgtpeppr on Feb 19, 2019 20:21:20 GMT -5
it kind of makes sense if its just DLBIA from one love. even tho theyre all noel's songs, DLBIA seems even more so. for oasis fans, it was a big deal that liam actually sung it after all these years... He didn't sing it in One Love though. mustve mixed it up with another show...did he dedicate it to manchester or something? |
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Post by Manualex on Feb 19, 2019 20:38:16 GMT -5
He didn't sing it in One Love though. mustve mixed it up with another show...did he dedicate it to manchester or something? Glastonbury? |
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Post by Manualex on Feb 19, 2019 20:57:25 GMT -5
Looking at the replies to Liam’s tweet I can only conclude that there are some incredibly thick people using Twitter. X If you change one letter it becomes Twatter. X |
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Post by bt95 on Feb 20, 2019 3:15:19 GMT -5
Y'know, I actually re-watched that press conference yesterday. Liam isn't slated it it particularly. Noel describes his version of events - the fight etc, and the Pretty Green thing. That's it. Says Liam's probably better off without him because he's in charge (of Beady Eye, obviously). The only jibe is that laryngitis thing. And the quote is "He missed the V festival. Said he had laryngitis. Whatever." Totally get the message that Noel was getting across was trying to slander Liam, but people seem to be making a big deal that this presser was some kind of anti-Liam charge. It wasn't really. There were no jokes at Liam's expense. Clearly anger, but that was it. It's funny how people remember things, ey, or at least choose to. Noel/Ignition are doing something dickish here. It leaves a sour taste. I'm sure they have their reasons and legally they'll be within their rights. I don't think it's the right thing to do. Liam isn't innocent. People should stop pretending he is. It doesn't make this latest incident right, though. He said they canceled the V festival because Liam had a hungover. The hangover comment triggered the slander lawsuit later. That’s hardly “no jokes at Liam’s expense”, not to mention he also throw unnecessary jibe at Andy. That press conference is mainly for Noel’s new solo project so of course it’s not a anti-Liam charge from beginning to end. He just used every opportunity he had to set his narrative, in which all faults were on others. It’s funny how people not only choose to remember things, but also choose to observe things as they like. Not in the press conference he didn't. As I said, I re-watched it. I used the direct quote. Re. Andy, whose relationship with Noel is presumably fine now, he said "Nobody else in the band said anything. Andy was sat there, counting how many shoes he had on." Maybe the quote about the hangover with Liam came at another time? My point was, in that press conference, he did not say anything about a hangover. |
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Post by darmin on Feb 20, 2019 3:17:48 GMT -5
Perhaps Liam used Twitter to put some pressure on Noel. Legally, Noel has the rights to prohibit the use of oasis songs in the documentary. But he can lose in the court of public opinion.
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Post by mossy on Feb 20, 2019 4:54:20 GMT -5
Y'know, I actually re-watched that press conference yesterday. Liam isn't slated it it particularly. Noel describes his version of events - the fight etc, and the Pretty Green thing. That's it. Says Liam's probably better off without him because he's in charge (of Beady Eye, obviously). The only jibe is that laryngitis thing. And the quote is "He missed the V festival. Said he had laryngitis. Whatever." Totally get the message that Noel was getting across was trying to slander Liam, but people seem to be making a big deal that this presser was some kind of anti-Liam charge. It wasn't really. There were no jokes at Liam's expense. Clearly anger, but that was it. It's funny how people remember things, ey, or at least choose to. Noel/Ignition are doing something dickish here. It leaves a sour taste. I'm sure they have their reasons and legally they'll be within their rights. I don't think it's the right thing to do. Liam isn't innocent. People should stop pretending he is. It doesn't make this latest incident right, though. He said they canceled the V festival because Liam had a hungover. The hangover comment triggered the slander lawsuit later. That’s hardly “no jokes at Liam’s expense”, not to mention he also throw unnecessary jibe at Andy. That press conference is mainly for Noel’s new solo project so of course it’s not a anti-Liam charge from beginning to end. He just used every opportunity he had to set his narrative, in which all faults were on others. It’s funny how people not only choose to remember things, but also choose to observe things as they like. I don’t want to step into someone else’s argument, but anyway, here I go! Here’s a picture of Liam at V Festival the night before he got that horrible case of laryngitis.  In addition to singing/shouting/talking too much, other things that can increase the risk of getting laryngitis are, ahem, cigarettes and alcohol. So I don’t think he didn’t perform from being hungover. He probably did have real laryngitis and may well have a doctors note to prove it. But why did he get laryngitis? Surely you can see what Noel’s point was... Peace. X |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 5:03:56 GMT -5
tbh Liam has been a total prick about Noel's family so I can see why the little man is being awkward, but like I said earlier in the thread, he's going to end up penalising his own fans. Just take the money and move on ffs
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Post by mossy on Feb 20, 2019 6:38:39 GMT -5
tbh Liam has been a total prick about Noel's family so I can see why the little man is being awkward, but like I said earlier in the thread, he's going to end up penalising his own fans. Just take the money and move on ffs Noel doesn’t care about his fans - he’s said this explicitly multiple times. He’s been calling the people who’ll be bothered about this parka monkeys for years now. He cares more about sticking it to Liam than he does his fans. X |
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Post by Parka Flames on Feb 20, 2019 7:26:12 GMT -5
tbh Liam has been a total prick about Noel's family so I can see why the little man is being awkward, but like I said earlier in the thread, he's going to end up penalising his own fans. Just take the money and move on ffs He’s been calling the people who’ll be bothered about this parka monkeys for years now. He cares more about sticking it to Liam than he does his fans. X Can you provide a source for this claim? |
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Post by RocketMan on Feb 20, 2019 7:43:35 GMT -5
Noel doesn’t care about his fans - he’s said this explicitly multiple times. He’s been calling the people who’ll be bothered about this parka monkeys for years now. He cares more about sticking it to Liam than he does his fans. X Can you provide a source for this claim? he did refer to oasis fans as parker monkeys |
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Post by birchy on Feb 20, 2019 8:13:02 GMT -5
He said they canceled the V festival because Liam had a hungover. The hangover comment triggered the slander lawsuit later. That’s hardly “no jokes at Liam’s expense”, not to mention he also throw unnecessary jibe at Andy. That press conference is mainly for Noel’s new solo project so of course it’s not a anti-Liam charge from beginning to end. He just used every opportunity he had to set his narrative, in which all faults were on others. It’s funny how people not only choose to remember things, but also choose to observe things as they like. Not in the press conference he didn't. As I said, I re-watched it. I used the direct quote. Re. Andy, whose relationship with Noel is presumably fine now, he said "Nobody else in the band said anything. Andy was sat there, counting how many shoes he had on." Maybe the quote about the hangover with Liam came at another time? My point was, in that press conference, he did not say anything about a hangover. He did mention the hangover in that press conference. Maybe you watched the edited version on Noel's official Youtube channel. Here's the quote - "He didn't turn up for the V Festival gig because he had a hangover." |
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Post by sgtpeppr on Feb 20, 2019 8:39:42 GMT -5
He said they canceled the V festival because Liam had a hungover. The hangover comment triggered the slander lawsuit later. That’s hardly “no jokes at Liam’s expense”, not to mention he also throw unnecessary jibe at Andy. That press conference is mainly for Noel’s new solo project so of course it’s not a anti-Liam charge from beginning to end. He just used every opportunity he had to set his narrative, in which all faults were on others. It’s funny how people not only choose to remember things, but also choose to observe things as they like. I don’t want to step into someone else’s argument, but anyway, here I go! Here’s a picture of Liam at V Festival the night before he got that horrible case of laryngitis. In addition to singing/shouting/talking too much, other things that can increase the risk of getting laryngitis are, ahem, cigarettes and alcohol. So I don’t think he didn’t perform from being hungover. He probably did have real laryngitis and may well have a doctors note to prove it. But why did he get laryngitis? Surely you can see what Noel’s point was... Peace. X he may very well have had a legit reason for the V festival, but that doesnt explain the previous 10 years...? |
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Post by bt95 on Feb 20, 2019 8:57:03 GMT -5
Not in the press conference he didn't. As I said, I re-watched it. I used the direct quote. Re. Andy, whose relationship with Noel is presumably fine now, he said "Nobody else in the band said anything. Andy was sat there, counting how many shoes he had on." Maybe the quote about the hangover with Liam came at another time? My point was, in that press conference, he did not say anything about a hangover. He did mention the hangover in that press conference. Maybe you watched the edited version on Noel's official Youtube channel. Here's the quote - "He didn't turn up for the V Festival gig because he had a hangover." Fair enough. I didn't think I watched it on Noel's channel, but the presser I watched definitely didn't have the 'hangover' quote. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 20, 2019 9:20:41 GMT -5
I don’t want to step into someone else’s argument, but anyway, here I go! Here’s a picture of Liam at V Festival the night before he got that horrible case of laryngitis. In addition to singing/shouting/talking too much, other things that can increase the risk of getting laryngitis are, ahem, cigarettes and alcohol. So I don’t think he didn’t perform from being hungover. He probably did have real laryngitis and may well have a doctors note to prove it. But why did he get laryngitis? Surely you can see what Noel’s point was... Peace. X he may very well have had a legit reason for the V festival, but that doesnt explain the previous 10 years...? Liam has walked off a few gigs and undoubtably some of those are with no good reason much to his discredit. But lets not act like he was disappearing every night. In reference to Noel giving it as a reason, he was more than capable of ditching a tour. It was a occupational hazard of being a fan of Oasis. |
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Post by mossy on Feb 20, 2019 10:42:41 GMT -5
Noel doesn’t care about his fans - he’s said this explicitly multiple times. He’s been calling the people who’ll be bothered about this parka monkeys for years now. He cares more about sticking it to Liam than he does his fans. X Can you provide a source for this claim? I can provide links if you really need them, but it’ll have to be later as I have a life outside this forum. Hard to believe I know! But paraphrasing: - I wouldn’t reform Oasis for all the starving kids in Africa - I never got to see the Sex Pistols live, so tough shit if you didn’t get to see Oasis - No-one in Oasis gave a shit about the fans - I need to stop the football hooligan skin heads from coming to my gigs - Luddite Parka Monkeys will hate my album - I’m an artiste now, I make albums for me not the fans; I binned the acoustic album because although fans want it I don’t - I don’t care if you want to hear the Amorphous Androgynous album, I’m not releasing it because I don’t like it - That redvers guy has a terrible haircut, I don’t want him at my gigs Etc X |
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Post by bogaloo on Feb 20, 2019 11:35:47 GMT -5
Not wanting to derail anybody's thead and avoiding quotations as this in not a reply to anyone in particular. Regarding the lawsuits: - They are/were both hanging on to technichalities: Noel is (apparently, as well don't know any details) using copyrights to place a stone in Liam's shoe. - Liam was using a doctor's note to sue for slander using a very strict (and useful) interpretation of it. No, he couldn't sing that day due to laryingitis, but he clearly had chronic laryingitis since God knows when. He knew drinking, smoking and shouting the day before the gig wouldn't help. He chose to Run the risk not to be able to sing, whatever term you use to describe it. Regarding abandoning gigs and tours: Liam left, out of memory (and I'd appreciate your help completing/detailing the list) - MTV unplugged. Cause??? - American tour 1996- needed to find a house - Gmex Manchester (?)1997- cause?  ? - The point Dublin(?) 1997- cause??? - Sudoeste festival Portugal, 2000 - claimed a stone was thrown onstage (it was a lie, as well documented by the press, at the time) - Switzerland same tour as above- cause?? - Japan 2001? 2002?- cause: aphonia - The roudhouse (?) 2008- cause:aphonia (?) - American gigs??? (Need help) Noel left (also, help completing the list/detailing it) - 1994 American tour (well documented in supersonic. All on Crystal meth, probably including him) - 1996 American tour cause??? (Fight/argument w/ Liam, but issue unkown) - 2000 European "overseas" tour after row with Liam and him questioning his daughter's paternity (as far as we know) - 2009 European tour- Band split. |
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Post by mossy on Feb 20, 2019 11:38:44 GMT -5
I don’t want to step into someone else’s argument, but anyway, here I go! Here’s a picture of Liam at V Festival the night before he got that horrible case of laryngitis. In addition to singing/shouting/talking too much, other things that can increase the risk of getting laryngitis are, ahem, cigarettes and alcohol. So I don’t think he didn’t perform from being hungover. He probably did have real laryngitis and may well have a doctors note to prove it. But why did he get laryngitis? Surely you can see what Noel’s point was... Peace. X he may very well have had a legit reason for the V festival, but that doesnt explain the previous 10 years...? My point was that he probably *didn’t* have a legitimate reason for V Festival... X |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 20, 2019 12:02:13 GMT -5
Ah, the good 'ol days of Liam Vs Noel. Who would've thought 10 years later ...
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