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Post by yeayeayeah on Jan 12, 2018 0:15:13 GMT -5
David Holmes probably contributed to the WBTM as much as any producer on modern pop/rock songs who gets a credit for writing, so it's a bit hypocritical of Noel to say that. Noel is just more old-fashioned when it comes to this sort of thing. George Martin didn't get songwriting credits but he probably would have if The Beatles were around today with the amount he contributed.
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Post by MONO on Jan 12, 2018 7:05:17 GMT -5
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Post by captainsoul on Jan 12, 2018 8:33:44 GMT -5
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Post by heathenchemist01 on Jan 12, 2018 8:55:55 GMT -5
Let the games begin 😈
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 12, 2018 9:46:25 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 12, 2018 11:16:05 GMT -5
Definitely a weird ass quote from Noel. Would love to get a response.
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Post by captainsoul on Jan 12, 2018 12:26:02 GMT -5
Definitely a weird ass quote from Noel. Would love to get a response. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 12, 2018 12:28:08 GMT -5
Definitely a weird ass quote from Noel. Would love to get a response. I mean from Noel about that tweet. |
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Post by matt on Jan 12, 2018 15:51:53 GMT -5
Weird attack by Noel, comes off as a really tetchy old man who petulantly holds a grudge against people (even old friends now) it seems.
Ashcroft though hasn’t written a decent song in 20 years though, it’s all very maudlin and saccharine these days from him. I think it says a lot when the best album he’s released since Urban Hymns is, well, Forth by The Verve - by far their weakest but I’d take it any day over any of his solo material.
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Post by glider on Jan 12, 2018 15:58:11 GMT -5
Weird attack by Noel, comes off as a really tetchy old man who petulantly holds a grudge against people (even old friends now) it seems. Ashcroft though hasn’t written a decent song in 20 years though, it’s all very maudlin and saccharine these days from him. I think it says a lot when the best album he’s released since Urban Hymns is, well, Forth by The Verve - by far their weakest but I’d take it any day over any of his solo material. The world would be a better place is if he realized that his lyrical skill is better suited over someone's jams brings the best out of him instead of going out to write the entire song and chord progression himself. Don't take my word for it though, ask Nick - "Richard’s strength as a lyricist has always been in his brutality, really. Some of the lyrics are painfully honest. I think he learned a profitable but damaging lesson with Urban Hymns; if you turn your own personal narrative into a universal narrative you might have people connect to it, but you lose the honesty of your own thing. Maybe this has been a cross for him to burn in later years. He does censor himself. I’ve actually seen him censor himself on Forth and had the discussion with him saying, 'you need to go with what the initial lyric was really'." www.gigwise.com/features/110587/nick-mccabe-reflects-on-urban-hymns-20-years-after-its-release |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 12, 2018 15:58:23 GMT -5
Weird attack by Noel, comes off as a really tetchy old man who petulantly holds a grudge against people (even old friends now) it seems. Ashcroft though hasn’t written a decent song in 20 years though, it’s all very maudlin and saccharine these days from him. I think it says a lot when the best album he’s released since Urban Hymns is, well, Forth by The Verve - by far their weakest but I’d take it any day over any of his solo material. Its just so so weird. Noel also attacked Dave Grohl. These are your buddies Noel. No one is wishing you ill harm. Best to keep silent. |
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 12, 2018 16:07:09 GMT -5
Weird attack by Noel, comes off as a really tetchy old man who petulantly holds a grudge against people (even old friends now) it seems. Ashcroft though hasn’t written a decent song in 20 years though, it’s all very maudlin and saccharine these days from him. I think it says a lot when the best album he’s released since Urban Hymns is, well, Forth by The Verve - by far their weakest but I’d take it any day over any of his solo material. Its just so so weird. Noel also attacked Dave Grohl. These are your buddies Noel. No one is wishing you ill harm. Best to keep silent. I can be wrong, but I think he also attacked U2. |
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Post by batfink30 on Jan 12, 2018 16:39:05 GMT -5
Its just so so weird. Noel also attacked Dave Grohl. These are your buddies Noel. No one is wishing you ill harm. Best to keep silent. I can be wrong, but I think he also attacked U2. U2 and the two Ronnie's are the only ones he hasn't had a dig at. |
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Post by My Big Name on Jan 12, 2018 18:19:04 GMT -5
It's times like these that prove Noel can be just as idiotic as Liam.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jan 13, 2018 2:33:30 GMT -5
I wrote all songs for Richard but shhhhh.
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Post by captainsoul on Jan 13, 2018 8:27:50 GMT -5
I wrote all songs for Richard but shhhhh.  |
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Post by alka on Jan 13, 2018 8:51:21 GMT -5
At this point it's better to keep a list of musicians that Noel/Liam haven't talked shit about.
This statement from Noel is the ultimate example of 'throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks'.
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Post by johnwesleyharding on Jan 13, 2018 10:54:09 GMT -5
This proves it, Richard Ashcroft is an army of one.
It's a...
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Post by batfink30 on Jan 13, 2018 16:05:31 GMT -5
This proves it, Richard Ashcroft is an army of one. It's a... |
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Post by playthehitsgetoff on Jan 13, 2018 16:18:18 GMT -5
RA has asked NG to qualify it. I hope whoever interviews NG next...asks him to.
Noel, you been a dick...u need to apologise matey...
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Post by captainsoul on Jan 13, 2018 20:52:23 GMT -5
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 15, 2018 17:37:28 GMT -5
I wrote all songs for Richard but shhhhh. Would definitely keep that to myself if I were you then, as you didn't do a very good job |
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Post by mockba08 on Jan 19, 2018 5:40:31 GMT -5
I lot of hate for RA's solo stuff on here.
I enjoyed the last album and on his other solo albums I think there's been at least 4 or 5 decent tunes.
He's mega live as well.
Oh, and he stinks of Man United so it's all good.
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Post by rorymcbride on Jan 19, 2018 6:44:27 GMT -5
Weird attack by Noel, comes off as a really tetchy old man who petulantly holds a grudge against people (even old friends now) it seems. Ashcroft though hasn’t written a decent song in 20 years though, it’s all very maudlin and saccharine these days from him. I think it says a lot when the best album he’s released since Urban Hymns is, well, Forth by The Verve - by far their weakest but I’d take it any day over any of his solo material. The world would be a better place is if he realized that his lyrical skill is better suited over someone's jams brings the best out of him instead of going out to write the entire song and chord progression himself. Don't take my word for it though, ask Nick - "Richard’s strength as a lyricist has always been in his brutality, really. Some of the lyrics are painfully honest. I think he learned a profitable but damaging lesson with Urban Hymns; if you turn your own personal narrative into a universal narrative you might have people connect to it, but you lose the honesty of your own thing. Maybe this has been a cross for him to burn in later years. He does censor himself. I’ve actually seen him censor himself on Forth and had the discussion with him saying, 'you need to go with what the initial lyric was really'." www.gigwise.com/features/110587/nick-mccabe-reflects-on-urban-hymns-20-years-after-its-releaseFuck my hat! "The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Oasis and The Verve can all be held in the same breath." I don't think I've laughed this hard for a loooooooooooooooooooooooong while. |
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Post by marqueemoon on Jan 19, 2018 12:47:44 GMT -5
While Noel's comments may be incorrect and silly, Richard has always been a massive asshole himself. That Gigwise interview just shows how childish and stubborn he is even twenty years on, excluding some brilliant tracks that really do put all of his solo work to shame. I say that as someone who would defend his first solo album, even bits of his second, as some great work.
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