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Post by captaincrankshaft on Jun 17, 2019 6:35:41 GMT -5
They are both marketing geniuses too by the fucking look of it!
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Post by 2nz on Jun 17, 2019 7:28:23 GMT -5
In this day and age, there's no point in packaging things together as an album once they've been available for streaming for so long- especially if he wants to keep his run of No.1 albums going.
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Post by chamu on Jun 18, 2019 3:19:34 GMT -5
Only 800,000 streams after 2 weeks. Shitty. That is only $3,200 from streaming. Right now Shockwave has more streams than Black Star Dancing with only ten days for Liams one. Noel numbers on Spotify are terribly low, even Liam´s numbers aren´t outstanding
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Post by draper on Jun 18, 2019 5:45:58 GMT -5
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Post by Gas Panic on Jun 18, 2019 6:00:32 GMT -5
Most successful in the sense that it's alienated more of his core fanbase than any other solo track to date.
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Post by cjfp on Jun 18, 2019 6:53:51 GMT -5
Any word on when the next EP will be released?
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Post by Manualex on Jun 18, 2019 6:55:50 GMT -5
Any word on when the next EP will be released? September iirc
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2019 6:58:27 GMT -5
It's next to impossible to know for sure in today's climate of music. Streams, licensing to ads/films/tv/clubs, etc. Odds are he is making a load of cash from avenues that we would never even consider at this point.
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Post by draper on Jun 18, 2019 8:05:49 GMT -5
It's next to impossible to know for sure in today's climate of music. Streams, licensing to ads/films/tv/clubs, etc. Odds are he is making a load of cash from avenues that we would never even consider at this point. You can have a hit without the single high in the charts? Weird days.
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Post by DCUnited on Jun 18, 2019 10:04:09 GMT -5
It's next to impossible to know for sure in today's climate of music. Streams, licensing to ads/films/tv/clubs, etc. Odds are he is making a load of cash from avenues that we would never even consider at this point. You can have a hit without the single high in the charts? Weird days.
Or with low streaming or YouTube numbers...
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 18, 2019 10:34:09 GMT -5
It's next to impossible to know for sure in today's climate of music. Streams, licensing to ads/films/tv/clubs, etc. Odds are he is making a load of cash from avenues that we would never even consider at this point. You can have a hit without the single high in the charts? Weird days.
I can't think of a song that I would describe as "a hit" that didn't chart well, though. In theory I suppose it's technically possible, but I don't think it's happened.
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Post by andymorris on Jun 18, 2019 11:56:25 GMT -5
People are very demanding nowadays. The last time Noel worked that fast was in the 90s. WBTM was released what 1.5 year ago ? And we're gonna get a LP worth of material in december, with those EPs.
Hell, even if they are all shit, NG seems like he's gonna release something else soon after that, so big deal. I was not a fan of CY but i'm glad for WBTM. This is what's it's gonna be like nowadays. After 25 years of career, he's trying something else, good for him. He knows he cant recreate the glory days, the sound, the vibe of the 90s, unlike Liam who's still trying to be Oasis but ends up being 1/3 of Beady Eye.
There's plenty of good records this year anyway, if Noel's EP are bad. I'm sure his 80s disco phase will pass and he'll make something else after that.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 18, 2019 15:49:40 GMT -5
People are very demanding nowadays. The last time Noel worked that fast was in the 90s. WBTM was released what 1.5 year ago ? And we're gonna get a LP worth of material in december, with those EPs. Hell, even if they are all shit, NG seems like he's gonna release something else soon after that, so big deal. I was not a fan of CY but i'm glad for WBTM. This is what's it's gonna be like nowadays. After 25 years of career, he's trying something else, good for him. He knows he cant recreate the glory days, the sound, the vibe of the 90s, unlike Liam who's still trying to be Oasis but ends up being 1/3 of Beady Eye. There's plenty of good records this year anyway, if Noel's EP are bad. I'm sure his 80s disco phase will pass and he'll make something else after that. I’m not sure what people were expecting. Noel Rock Vol. 1 Noel Rock Vol. 2 Noel Rock Vol. 3 Noel hinted at this way back in the fall of 2017. He was going to try and do things differently to spice up his regular routine. I happen to like this new phase. Many don’t. That fine. Plenty of OTHER music out there to enjoy. You don’t always have to hang your hat on a 52 year old Noel Gallagher. Man that’s weird to write 52. I remember when he turned 30!
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Post by mossy on Jun 18, 2019 16:37:56 GMT -5
It's next to impossible to know for sure in today's climate of music. Streams, licensing to ads/films/tv/clubs, etc. Odds are he is making a load of cash from avenues that we would never even consider at this point. You can have a hit without the single high in the charts? Weird days.
I assume it’s ineligible to chart as it’s not even charted in the UK physical single sales chart. For reference, Liam is at #1. www.officialcharts.com/charts/physical-singles-chart/Noel has 7 singles in that chart right now including several reentries, so BSD seems to be helping generate interest though... X
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 18, 2019 21:10:12 GMT -5
Only 800,000 streams after 2 weeks. Shitty. That is only $3,200 from streaming. Right now Shockwave has more streams than Black Star Dancing with only ten days for Liams one. Noel numbers on Spotify are terribly low, even Liam´s numbers aren´t outstanding Theyre pretty outstanding compared to anyone else his age or above I've got on Spotify. Weller, Marr, Ian Brown, Noel. The list goes on. They don't come close. If you're comparing him to Katy Perry and Ed Sheeran then fine. But we need a bit of reality here. He's doing great.
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Post by Gerhard on Jun 19, 2019 2:46:28 GMT -5
Right now Shockwave has more streams than Black Star Dancing with only ten days for Liams one. Noel numbers on Spotify are terribly low, even Liam´s numbers aren´t outstanding Theyre pretty outstanding compared to anyone else his age or above I've got on Spotify. Weller, Marr, Ian Brown, Noel. The list goes on. They don't come close. If you're comparing him to Katy Perry and Ed Sheeran then fine. But we need a bit of reality here. He's doing great. I also think you can't compare Noel and Liam music. Noel is really getting away from the oasis camp. Look at interview before Isle of Wight from last weekend on Youtube. He want something new and that is probably with new fans/audience.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 19, 2019 2:55:39 GMT -5
People are very demanding nowadays. The last time Noel worked that fast was in the 90s. WBTM was released what 1.5 year ago ? And we're gonna get a LP worth of material in december, with those EPs. Hell, even if they are all shit, NG seems like he's gonna release something else soon after that, so big deal. I was not a fan of CY but i'm glad for WBTM. This is what's it's gonna be like nowadays. After 25 years of career, he's trying something else, good for him. He knows he cant recreate the glory days, the sound, the vibe of the 90s, unlike Liam who's still trying to be Oasis but ends up being 1/3 of Beady Eye. There's plenty of good records this year anyway, if Noel's EP are bad. I'm sure his 80s disco phase will pass and he'll make something else after that.
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Post by chamu on Jun 19, 2019 3:09:23 GMT -5
People are very demanding nowadays. The last time Noel worked that fast was in the 90s. WBTM was released what 1.5 year ago ? And we're gonna get a LP worth of material in december, with those EPs. Hell, even if they are all shit, NG seems like he's gonna release something else soon after that, so big deal. I was not a fan of CY but i'm glad for WBTM. This is what's it's gonna be like nowadays. After 25 years of career, he's trying something else, good for him. He knows he cant recreate the glory days, the sound, the vibe of the 90s, unlike Liam who's still trying to be Oasis but ends up being 1/3 of Beady Eye. There's plenty of good records this year anyway, if Noel's EP are bad. I'm sure his 80s disco phase will pass and he'll make something else after that. You always speak as if Liam was failing with his solo career, but no man, he is tremendoulsy succesfull. I can´t understand why you need constantly dig at Liam with every post. Is something personal? And for Noel, for me it´s not about trying something new, seek another direction or fulfill your curiosity as a musician(i´m 100% with that), it´s about writing great songs. And lately, FOR ME, he´s writing very mediocre songs, and it shows where he is good/great/godlike at. PD: Liam is not trying to be Oasis. Liam is Oasis
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Post by freddy838 on Jun 19, 2019 5:28:58 GMT -5
People are very demanding nowadays. The last time Noel worked that fast was in the 90s. WBTM was released what 1.5 year ago ? And we're gonna get a LP worth of material in december, with those EPs. Hell, even if they are all shit, NG seems like he's gonna release something else soon after that, so big deal. I was not a fan of CY but i'm glad for WBTM. This is what's it's gonna be like nowadays. After 25 years of career, he's trying something else, good for him. He knows he cant recreate the glory days, the sound, the vibe of the 90s, unlike Liam who's still trying to be Oasis but ends up being 1/3 of Beady Eye. There's plenty of good records this year anyway, if Noel's EP are bad. I'm sure his 80s disco phase will pass and he'll make something else after that. You always speak as if Liam was failing with his solo career, but no man, he is tremendoulsy succesfull. I can´t understand why you need constantly dig at Liam with every post. Is something personal? And for Noel, for me it´s not about trying something new, seek another direction or fulfill your curiosity as a musician(i´m 100% with that), it´s about writing great songs. And lately, FOR ME, he´s writing very mediocre songs, and it shows where he is good/great/godlike at. PD: Liam is not trying to be Oasis. Liam is Oasis Indeed, it's almost as if we are supposed to be grateful that he's writing quite a lot of shit songs, and then getting insulted for being too thick to like them as well.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 19, 2019 5:37:04 GMT -5
Black Star Dancing sounds great live, really elevates the song.
Still excited we've got (at least) 6 songs to come this year. Roll on September (Noel's second EP and Liam's second album).
Also, we should then have a single around late August (from both of them). Guess Liam will drop one in July.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jun 19, 2019 8:57:48 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 19, 2019 9:18:06 GMT -5
Black Star Dancing sounds great live, really elevates the song. Still excited we've got (at least) 6 songs to come this year. Roll on September (Noel's second EP and Liam's second album). Also, we should then have a single around late August (from both of them). Guess Liam will drop one in July. I'm thinking 7 more "real" songs. Noel keeps saying he could throw them on an album with 10-11 tracks. Less remixes Noel. More song songs.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 19, 2019 9:19:39 GMT -5
Black Star Dancing sounds great live, really elevates the song. Still excited we've got (at least) 6 songs to come this year. Roll on September (Noel's second EP and Liam's second album). Also, we should then have a single around late August (from both of them). Guess Liam will drop one in July. I'm thinking 7 more "real" songs. Noel keeps saying he could throw them on an album with 10-11 tracks. Less remixes Noel. More song songs. Aye I'm hoping so too, but just playing it safe expecting another 6.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 19, 2019 9:20:52 GMT -5
I'm thinking 7 more "real" songs. Noel keeps saying he could throw them on an album with 10-11 tracks. Less remixes Noel. More song songs. Aye I'm hoping so too, but just playing it safe expecting another 6. We are also all assuming each EP is gonna have 2 remixes on it. Not every song lends itself to remixes. Noel said EP3 is very lad rock or some shit. I wouldn't expect a remix or two there but who knows. The AA have fucked Noel up since DOYS.
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Post by andymorris on Jun 19, 2019 9:21:44 GMT -5
You always speak as if Liam was failing with his solo career, but no man, he is tremendoulsy succesfull. I can´t understand why you need constantly dig at Liam with every post. Is something personal? And for Noel, for me it´s not about trying something new, seek another direction or fulfill your curiosity as a musician(i´m 100% with that), it´s about writing great songs. And lately, FOR ME, he´s writing very mediocre songs, and it shows where he is good/great/godlike at. PD: Liam is not trying to be Oasis. Liam is Oasis Liam is not Oasis, Liam & Noel were Oasis. Liam would be working at Tesco if it wasn't for Noel's songs / Noel's background work. And where did i say he's failing ? Quote me on that. He's successful, but at what cost ? There was a time when both brothers in Oasis meant something for people, their music, their own way of doing things, not playing the mainstream record label game. Dont be fooled, Liam is doing marketed / box ticking rock n roll. It sounds nice, clean, but I prefered when he was trying with Beady Eye. At least that was something authentic. They did not try hard enough. So to me, only songs written only by Liam are worth something. the other songs are good, but it's just not the same. They could have been sung by Beyonce or whatever. The Liam we all knew and loved in the 90s does not exist anymore. Same for Noel, but at least Noel's not trying to pretend he's the same. Liam has become Las Vegas Liam.
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