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Post by rebel79 on Jun 14, 2019 20:20:03 GMT -5
Is the 12 inch mix of BSD just a longer version of the "regular" version or it a different mix? it's a longer version...but nothing relevant! |
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Post by rebel79 on Jun 14, 2019 20:26:14 GMT -5
I'm enjoying like crazy listening to both Gallaghers! Noel is pure class and Liam is a fucking rock'n'roll star!
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Post by coconutstall on Jun 14, 2019 20:49:48 GMT -5
I actually really like Sail On, although first listen I was thinking 'oh a lot of people won't like this'. Still prefer Rattling Rose, but both shit all over the monstrosity that is Black Star Dancing
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jun 14, 2019 21:32:51 GMT -5
I like all three new sounds to varying degrees with Sail On being the best of the bunch.
I'm not very keen on the 3 E.P. strategy. It's quite hard to get things like that In New Zealand. I know I can order it from the UK but that is paying for shipping three times. Not sure if I should just wait until all three have been released or maybe they will be compiled into an album.
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 15, 2019 2:51:29 GMT -5
For someone with supposedly so many songs and ideas I find the EP extremely underwhelming.
Don't get me wrong i love Sail On and I'm a big fan of Black Star Dancing, but we keep hearing about all these songs Noel has and for him to blast out a song on the last day of studio time by ripping off David Bowie is a bit shitty.
You just get the feeling he could be doing so many better songs than hes making atm. Black Star Dancing and Sail On are good Noel songs but album Noel songs at most. I always imagined an EP of Noels being absolutely mega because no matter what album he ever used to put out, he'd always make at least 4 great songs. This time around it feels like he's just bashed a couple of tracks out to stay out there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 3:12:20 GMT -5
For someone with supposedly so many songs and ideas I find the EP extremely underwhelming. Don't get me wrong i love Sail On and I'm a big fan of Black Star Dancing, but we keep hearing about all these songs Noel has and for him to blast out a song on the last day of studio time by ripping off David Bowie is a bit shitty. You just get the feeling he could be doing so many better songs than hes making atm. Black Star Dancing and Sail On are good Noel songs but album Noel songs at most. I always imagined an EP of Noels being absolutely mega because no matter what album he ever used to put out, he'd always make at least 4 great songs. This time around it feels like he's just bashed a couple of tracks out to stay out there. I feel like Noel is going through a creatively sticky patch tbh. Its not so much the style of music hes making, its just the quality of the songs. The depth for the most part isnt there. Just depends on whether Noel will make a comeback at some point or whether he will just become like coldplay and become "used to be good". Even someone like bowie had his years where things weren't that great. I know Noel hasnt been on his 90s level for a long time so hes probably already in that "used to be good" margin for many people. I just feel like things have gone down another level. a song like sail on is like coldplay's everglow imo. It gives a glimpse back into what they used to be, even if you wouldnt put it up with their best work. of course, its all subjective, if people are enjoying this era of Noel then I don't have a problem with that, Im not saying its factually true that what hes doing now is of reduced quality. Its just my opinion. |
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Post by mouth on Jun 15, 2019 3:34:57 GMT -5
sail on is pretty awesome.it sounds so natural, if that makes sense. the melody i mean. the complete opposite of what liam does.
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 15, 2019 7:26:29 GMT -5
For someone with supposedly so many songs and ideas I find the EP extremely underwhelming. Don't get me wrong i love Sail On and I'm a big fan of Black Star Dancing, but we keep hearing about all these songs Noel has and for him to blast out a song on the last day of studio time by ripping off David Bowie is a bit shitty. You just get the feeling he could be doing so many better songs than hes making atm. Black Star Dancing and Sail On are good Noel songs but album Noel songs at most. I always imagined an EP of Noels being absolutely mega because no matter what album he ever used to put out, he'd always make at least 4 great songs. This time around it feels like he's just bashed a couple of tracks out to stay out there. I feel like Noel is going through a creatively sticky patch tbh. Its not so much the style of music hes making, its just the quality of the songs. The depth for the most part isnt there. Just depends on whether Noel will make a comeback at some point or whether he will just become like coldplay and become "used to be good". Even someone like bowie had his years where things weren't that great. I know Noel hasnt been on his 90s level for a long time so hes probably already in that "used to be good" margin for many people. I just feel like things have gone down another level. a song like sail on is like coldplay's everglow imo. It gives a glimpse back into what they used to be, even if you wouldnt put it up with their best work. of course, its all subjective, if people are enjoying this era of Noel then I don't have a problem with that, Im not saying its factually true that what hes doing now is of reduced quality. Its just my opinion. I agree but the problem is I think he was making some of the best songs hes made in years with the first two solo albums. Then he suddenly has this attack of conscience that he won't be looked at as an evolved artist unless he makes music obviously out his comfort zone. Nothing wrong with that if you "let the songs find you" as he so often says. Don't go forcing it like he is doing because its just ending up with good songs that he thinks are incredible. He's still capable of incredible and shouldn't waste time. |
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Post by daviesh on Jun 15, 2019 7:48:22 GMT -5
I think the 'Mancunian' EP will be the one that I prefer the most.
I don't mind this one (I bought two versions for the collection FFS!) but I don't think I will be reaching for it that regularly.
As others have said it will be fun to make a playlist for the 4 EP's combined that he eventually releases this year and turn them into an album.
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Post by uboasis on Jun 15, 2019 7:56:16 GMT -5
I think the 'Mancunian' EP will be the one that I prefer the most. I don't mind this one (I bought two versions for the collection FFS!) but I don't think I will be reaching for it that regularly. As others have said it will be fun to make a playlist for the 4 EP's combined that he eventually releases this year and turn them into an album. I thought it was just 3 EPs |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 8:03:41 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 15, 2019 8:54:11 GMT -5
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Post by bogaloo on Jun 15, 2019 9:09:31 GMT -5
Is it just me, or the review "reads" higher than the score? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 9:14:28 GMT -5
I feel like Noel is going through a creatively sticky patch tbh. Its not so much the style of music hes making, its just the quality of the songs. The depth for the most part isnt there. Just depends on whether Noel will make a comeback at some point or whether he will just become like coldplay and become "used to be good". Even someone like bowie had his years where things weren't that great. I know Noel hasnt been on his 90s level for a long time so hes probably already in that "used to be good" margin for many people. I just feel like things have gone down another level. a song like sail on is like coldplay's everglow imo. It gives a glimpse back into what they used to be, even if you wouldnt put it up with their best work. of course, its all subjective, if people are enjoying this era of Noel then I don't have a problem with that, Im not saying its factually true that what hes doing now is of reduced quality. Its just my opinion. I agree but the problem is I think he was making some of the best songs hes made in years with the first two solo albums. Then he suddenly has this attack of conscience that he won't be looked at as an evolved artist unless he makes music obviously out his comfort zone. Nothing wrong with that if you "let the songs find you" as he so often says. Don't go forcing it like he is doing because its just ending up with good songs that he thinks are incredible. He's still capable of incredible and shouldn't waste time. I was listening to his isle of wight festival interview earlier and he seemingly said that black star dancing was was his most successful solo single (I dont know how that can be true) then went on to say something on the back that that amounted to questioning why he bothers to write music if he can just go in the studio, write a tune in 15 minutes and then get to headline a festival.
nothing in that interview made it sound like Noel has any interest in going back to writing like he used to and his general laziness will probably only reinforce that mindset.
he basically sounds like a gaming company that used to make great games but has realised that he can make the same if not more money by releasing the same game every year with a slightly different paint job without half the effort.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 15, 2019 9:19:43 GMT -5
Is it just me, or the review "reads" higher than the score? He got knocked for being old and trying to sound young. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 15, 2019 9:45:49 GMT -5
I love 'Rattling Rose', but am not arsed by the other two (and can't stick remixes).
Bring on the next one, then.
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Post by mancraider on Jun 15, 2019 10:20:25 GMT -5
I agree but the problem is I think he was making some of the best songs hes made in years with the first two solo albums. Then he suddenly has this attack of conscience that he won't be looked at as an evolved artist unless he makes music obviously out his comfort zone. Nothing wrong with that if you "let the songs find you" as he so often says. Don't go forcing it like he is doing because its just ending up with good songs that he thinks are incredible. He's still capable of incredible and shouldn't waste time. I was listening to his isle of wight festival interview earlier and he seemingly said that black star dancing was was his most successful solo single (I dont know how that can be true) then went on to say something on the back that that amounted to questioning why he bothers to write music if he can just go in the studio, write a tune in 15 minutes and then get to headline a festival.
nothing in that interview made it sound like Noel has any interest in going back to writing like he used to and his general laziness will probably only reinforce that mindset.
he basically sounds like a gaming company that used to make great games but has realised that he can make the same if not more money by releasing the same game every year with a slightly different paint job without half the effort.
If he thinks he is headlining a festival on the strength of his current music then he is kidding himself on. Same goes for Liam. |
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 15, 2019 10:20:28 GMT -5
Is it just me, or the review "reads" higher than the score? <iframe width="17.91999999999996" height="5.480000000000018" style="position: absolute; width: 17.91999999999996px; height: 5.480000000000018px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_15702919" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="17.91999999999996" height="5.480000000000018" style="position: absolute; width: 17.92px; height: 5.48px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 842px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_44851419" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="17.91999999999996" height="5.480000000000018" style="position: absolute; width: 17.92px; height: 5.48px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 212px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_21512978" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="17.91999999999996" height="5.480000000000018" style="position: absolute; width: 17.92px; height: 5.48px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 842px; top: 212px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_16268973" scrolling="no"></iframe> Pitchfork reviews rarely seem to match the score they give. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 10:30:01 GMT -5
They gave a good review and then remembered it was that pesky Gallagher brother from Oasis so marked it down.
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Post by marystroppins on Jun 15, 2019 10:43:38 GMT -5
...those that have heard it have told Noel it's "the best thing he's done in 20 years". Big expectations here... So only his wife has heard it so far? sick burn m8 |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Jun 15, 2019 12:14:22 GMT -5
To paraphrase Noel, Pitchfork is one of those media-types that would give 10/10 to Thom Yorke for sh*tting in a hat. |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Jun 15, 2019 12:17:03 GMT -5
"It took me a long f***ing time to write it, because I could never get the chorus right, and when I eventually finished it I was like 'That's the f***ing b******s. It really is. It's amazing.' Even the title is very Mancunian." For those of us not in the loop, what is the word "b*******s" and what does it mean? |
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Post by Loaded Silence on Jun 15, 2019 12:21:39 GMT -5
"It took me a long f***ing time to write it, because I could never get the chorus right, and when I eventually finished it I was like 'That's the f***ing b******s. It really is. It's amazing.' Even the title is very Mancunian." For those of us not in the loop, what is the word "b*******s" and what does it mean? 'bollocks' |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 15, 2019 12:27:22 GMT -5
To paraphrase Noel, Pitchfork is one of those media-types that would give 10/10 to Thom Yorke for sh*tting in a hat. And yet they haven’t given Thom’s solo albums very high scores. 6.6 and 6.3. Atoms For Peace got a 6.9. His soundtrack got an 8.0. Hmmmmmm............ |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 15, 2019 12:30:24 GMT -5
The three new songs aren't for me, I think they're too basic and bland. But no issues with him doing something a bit different.
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