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Post by thespiderandthefly on May 15, 2019 13:47:02 GMT -5
Noel has been playing in the soundcheck of Tokyo 'This is the place'... Is there any clip of this? How are you all acquiring this information?? Can you tell us what the songs sound like? Are people attending these soundchecks? |
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Post by bogaloo on May 15, 2019 14:00:05 GMT -5
Noel has been playing in the soundcheck of Tokyo 'This is the place'... Is there any clip of this? How are you all acquiring this information?? Can you tell us what the songs sound like? Are people attending these soundchecks? Yes, they are. It's not uncommon. Pictures by @talktonight27 on Instagram |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on May 15, 2019 14:18:53 GMT -5
How are you all acquiring this information?? Can you tell us what the songs sound like? Are people attending these soundchecks? Yes, they are. It's not uncommon. Pictures by @talktonight27 on Instagram I wasn’t asking the dumb question you thought I was. I’m asking how is it we don’t have any information on these songs or short recordings yet? We’ve obviously got a bunch of people on this forum who have heard Wandering Star and the other new one, but it’s like they have a gun to their head. At least tell us if these songs are disco, rock, ballads, etc??! |
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Post by Manualex on May 15, 2019 14:20:29 GMT -5
I remember that last few legs of the DOYS tour. STC, Everybody's on the Run, Simple Game of Genious and If I had a Gun were soundcheked in SE Asia and Southamerica. Cool that Noel is soundchecking new material but Iw would wait til they are released so hype levels are lower this time around.
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Post by bogaloo on May 15, 2019 14:28:06 GMT -5
Yes, they are. It's not uncommon. Pictures by @talktonight27 on Instagram I wasn’t asking the dumb question you thought I was. I’m asking how is it we don’t have any information on these songs or short recordings yet? We’ve obviously got a bunch of people on this forum who have heard Wandering Star and the other new one, but it’s like they have a gun to their head. At least tell us if these songs are disco, rock, ballads, etc??! Ah, ok! Sorry! Well, i'd guess they can't record them or won't share them. It's undestandable. Relatively few people are given access to the soundchecks. Noel's crew trust them. Last thing these fans want is to burn bridges and rightly so. Besides that, I don't think any of them are active users of this forum anymore, besides simmo. |
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Post by Worldsac on May 15, 2019 15:08:07 GMT -5
Noel has been playing in the soundcheck of Tokyo 'This is the place'... Is there any clip of this? How are you all acquiring this information?? Can you tell us what the songs sound like? Are people attending these soundchecks? Instagram account of Oasismaniaofficial dude  |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 15:10:00 GMT -5
How are you all acquiring this information?? Can you tell us what the songs sound like? Are people attending these soundchecks? Instagram account of Oasismaniaofficial dude Based Oasismania continuing to spread the Oasis content as widely as possible. |
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Post by fartpanic on May 15, 2019 17:55:26 GMT -5
I think he’s trying to be exactly what he is right now. His music collection always used to be more eclectic than his own songwriting it’s just that now he’s adding those influences in to his own writing. Whether it works or is any good is another matter but I don’t think you can accuse him of trying to be something he’s not. Even as far on as 2003/04 he's proudly boasting his record collection only comprises of Beatles, Stones and greatest hits from bowie, t-rex etc. It's only in the past 5 years hes started to name drop all sorts of music to try to emphasise to people he doesn't just listen to those old guitar bands. I think hes quite embarrassed that his music taste was so narrow minded until quite late on. He tries to now hide behind the narrative that the rest of the band stopped him from doing anything unconventional in Oasis but he never wanted to, nor knew how to change. [/quote] Noel's influences have never been one dimensional. It has been presented as such, but it's a really incorrect statement. He ripped off Cliff Richard and Gary Glitter for some songs, the Beatles for others, Led Zep (especially around BHN) for others. It's a really big range and always has been.[/quote] Are those influences diverse? They're all 60s/70s pop/rock. All huge artists from that era and all very identifiable songs that he borrowed from. |
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Post by sfsorrow on May 15, 2019 20:10:04 GMT -5
I am on the side that says that Noel always had more diverse musical interests than he generally led people to believe but he wasn't ever all that secretive about it either.
Yes, he talked a lot about The Beatles, Stones, Bowie, T-Rex, Sex Pistols in interviews. From the same time, he would have also named The Jam, The Smiths, The Stone Roses and The La's. We also got references to The Who, The Small Faces, The Kinks, The Bee Gees. In fact, we know that Noel was playing The Bee Gees quite a lot, suggesting his penchant for late 60s second-tier psychedelia. And while Burt Bacharach somewhat fits into this group, it was pretty surprising in 1995 to hear Noel Gallagher raving about him.
But more than that, he was a fan of more electronic and dance music as well. Noel was always into the Hacienda dance music to the extent that Oasis was rehearing a version of Cartouche's Feel the Groove in their earliest days. When Oasis were up for the Mercury Prize in 1995, a reporter asked Noel that if he didn't win, would he be rooting for Supergrass but Noel said he'd like to see Portishead winning. And it was at this time that he began his partnership with The Chemical Brothers and not long after that he worked with Goldie. This is all by 1998. So while it is true that Noel's musical palette has expanded since that time, it is nevertheless true that his tastes were always quite open and were not limited to a few big acts from the 60s.
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Post by thespiderandthefly on May 15, 2019 20:29:18 GMT -5
Someone needs to share Wandering Star quick, cause the wolves are eating each other.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 16, 2019 0:27:48 GMT -5
Only 600,000 streams on Spotify after 6 days. That is kinda shitty. Granted if he had 10 million at this point that is also just a drop into the vast musical ocean.
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Post by mimmihopps on May 16, 2019 3:51:42 GMT -5
Noel has been playing in the soundcheck of Tokyo 'This is the place'... Is there any clip of this? How are you all acquiring this information?? Can you tell us what the songs sound like? Are people attending these soundchecks? 3 people who bought the ticket for this gig, won to be able to attend the soundcheck, organised by Sony Music Japan. and of course, the world biggest Noel Gallagher fan, Sandra as well I'm sure. The promotor did the same thing 4 years ago. A handful people with the tickets for Fuji Rock were allowed to be attend at soundcheck at Budokan. I was outside the venue and could hear the entire soundcheck very clear. A couple of the photos, taken by legendary Mitch Ikeda: www.sonymusic.co.jp/artist/noelgallagher/info/506743 |
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Post by mimmihopps on May 16, 2019 12:28:15 GMT -5
Spotify Japan is giving away free flyer's of Noel's Japan tour to the audiences at venue to make a paper crane because of his band's name - Noel Gallagher's High Flying "Birds".
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Post by MONO on May 17, 2019 0:14:41 GMT -5
Black Star Dancing (The Reflex Revision) out as free download for those who pre-ordered the vinyl  |
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Post by hasseg on May 17, 2019 1:22:35 GMT -5
Black Star Dancing (The Reflex Revision) out as free download for those who pre-ordered the vinyl It's on Spotify, too. |
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Post by bt95 on May 17, 2019 5:58:22 GMT -5
Like the Reflex version a lot.
Feels really big and full. Probably moreso than the original.
The length of it is obviously a bit much - but it's a remix, it's kind of expected.
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Post by bt95 on May 17, 2019 6:02:24 GMT -5
On form
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Post by mossy on May 17, 2019 11:43:31 GMT -5
Haha. I can remember a younger Noel saying he hated touring Japan because “people are too quiet at gigs, you can’t get any drugs and the birds are all ugly.” X |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 12:03:31 GMT -5
Haha. I can remember a younger Noel saying he hated touring Japan because “people are too quiet at gigs, you can’t get any drugs and the birds are all ugly.” X I don't know, this one isn't bad...   |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 18, 2019 10:53:54 GMT -5
Black Star Dancing is now topsong on radio 2, one of the most important radiostations in the Netherlands. That means you hear it every other hour or something for a whole week.
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Post by Binary Sunset on May 18, 2019 11:59:45 GMT -5
Black Star Dancing is now topsong on radio 2, one of the most important radiostations in the Netherlands. That means you hear it every other hour or something for a whole week. That sounds unpleasant for the listeners. I kid. Still not my thing |
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Post by Derrick on May 18, 2019 12:01:36 GMT -5
Black Star Dancing is now topsong on radio 2, one of the most important radiostations in the Netherlands. That means you hear it every other hour or something for a whole week. I feel for you & for the Dutch. |
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Post by World71R on May 18, 2019 12:05:19 GMT -5
But more than that, he was a fan of more electronic and dance music as well. Noel was always into the Hacienda dance music to the extent that Oasis was rehearing a version of Cartouche's Feel the Groove in their earliest days. When Oasis were up for the Mercury Prize in 1995, a reporter asked Noel that if he didn't win, would he be rooting for Supergrass but Noel said he'd like to see Portishead winning. And it was at this time that he began his partnership with The Chemical Brothers and not long after that he worked with Goldie. This is all by 1998. So while it is true that Noel's musical palette has expanded since that time, it is nevertheless true that his tastes were always quite open and were not limited to a few big acts from the 60s. Thinking of this makes me wish that SOTSOG would've been more in the vein of the darker, more electronic and trip hop-influenced rock that was apparent on songs like Go Let it Out, the Where Did it All Go Wrong? demo, and Fuckin' in the Bushes. Gas Panic!, Roll it Over, and Let's All Make Believe are good in their own right and are good twists on the Oasis sound but some more tunes like the first three and some dance-y tunes, sort of like Columbia but more electronic and darker, would've been really, really cool and a true transformation. PYMWYMI was a good step but they mis-stepped with that song before it even came out of the gate. |
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Post by mimmihopps on May 18, 2019 13:02:22 GMT -5
Black Star Dancing is now topsong on radio 2, one of the most important radiostations in the Netherlands. That means you hear it every other hour or something for a whole week. I never listen to Dutch radio's and while everyone (even on the national news FFS!) is talking about Duncan Laurence, I'm happy with listening to the brand new album by The National.  |
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Post by sfsorrow on May 20, 2019 12:16:56 GMT -5
But more than that, he was a fan of more electronic and dance music as well. Noel was always into the Hacienda dance music to the extent that Oasis was rehearing a version of Cartouche's Feel the Groove in their earliest days. When Oasis were up for the Mercury Prize in 1995, a reporter asked Noel that if he didn't win, would he be rooting for Supergrass but Noel said he'd like to see Portishead winning. And it was at this time that he began his partnership with The Chemical Brothers and not long after that he worked with Goldie. This is all by 1998. So while it is true that Noel's musical palette has expanded since that time, it is nevertheless true that his tastes were always quite open and were not limited to a few big acts from the 60s. Thinking of this makes me wish that SOTSOG would've been more in the vein of the darker, more electronic and trip hop-influenced rock that was apparent on songs like Go Let it Out, the Where Did it All Go Wrong? demo, and Fuckin' in the Bushes. Gas Panic!, Roll it Over, and Let's All Make Believe are good in their own right and are good twists on the Oasis sound but some more tunes like the first three and some dance-y tunes, sort of like Columbia but more electronic and darker, would've been really, really cool and a true transformation. PYMWYMI was a good step but they mis-stepped with that song before it even came out of the gate. There are so many what ifs from this period. Had Be Here Now gone on to be a Morning Glory-style success story with All Around the World hailed as the ultimate Oasis triumph, I highly doubt that their 4th album would have sounded anything like what SOTSOG ended up becoming, though what it would have sounded like, I have no idea. I can't imagine them going even bigger, but who knows? I remember him saying on Canadian television that the drum loops on D'You Know What I Mean? were a sign of things to come. But instead of Oasis leading the way, starting in late 1997 and definitely into 1998, there was a definite sea change that made Oasis less relevant than they had been. The scene was less about having a great time, less a celebration of a common heritage and more about an individualistic somber response to the realities of life. Music became darker and more cerebral. Rather than continuing to lead the pack, Noel had to decide whether he was going to follow the trend, or simply continue doing what Oasis had always done and become more of a novelty side-show. I think he decided to follow the trend but do it in his own way. But I think he was always a bit lost in this regard. Nevertheless, I do think SOTSOG was heavily influenced especially by The Beta Band and the 3 EP comp. And while it is true that the album is a portrayal of a band and an artist who are unsure of who they are in this moment and lacks a full commitment to anything (like you say, a more electronic album would have been very interesting); nevertheless, if anything SOTSOG may be the most personal album Noel has ever made and will ever make and certainly his most honest. But I suppose if you are honest about your own uncertainty as an artist and as a person, you will end up with an honest but uncertain album. Anyway, I guess this could all be in a different thread but ultimately this was a very interesting period in the band's history. |
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