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Post by Jim on Jun 3, 2023 6:58:18 GMT -5
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Post by mimmihopps on Jun 3, 2023 7:37:20 GMT -5
Beautiful, quality album. I’m loving it.
Well done Noel
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Post by underneaththesky on Jun 3, 2023 7:38:33 GMT -5
first listen at midnight on Friday in studio headphones
second in the morning (sun) blasting through the speakers at work
third now through the BOSE reading his track by track
strong record, music is fantastic. classic NG and as usual, 2 wtf tracks.
but he should stop screaming those yooouuuu's, awaaaaaaay's and most of it. end of Council Skies (the song) didn't need another shitty vocal
Don't Stop and Get There are fantastic
and Pretty boy should be cut around 3.20
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jun 3, 2023 7:41:57 GMT -5
Great CD, stupendous opener, heartbreaking closer. Mature in the right ways, classy tunes, lots of beautiful orchestration which clearly elevates the already strong material.
Here's to the brilliance of Noel, he has written the soundtrack to my life and I think that will contine to be as true in the future as it has been over the last 30 years.
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Post by powerage09 on Jun 3, 2023 7:42:38 GMT -5
I gave it a play last night and have to say, for the first time since his first solo album, I really enjoyed it. The opening track is monumental. Not all of it is for me but generally, a very good album.
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Post by bestwick8 on Jun 3, 2023 7:58:07 GMT -5
How is it holding up in the charts so far ??
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Post by bt95 on Jun 3, 2023 7:59:56 GMT -5
Was trying to think for ages why There She Blows sounds familiar. This is probably as blatant a rip as you'll find from Noel. I love Cotton Mather. He was a big fan of Cotton Mather too so yes, definitely. |
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Post by Casino Boogie on Jun 3, 2023 8:02:47 GMT -5
In the artwork there's a picture of a mural at Lone Star Studios. Who is the person on the far right supposed to be? Looks a bit like Michael Douglas but very much doubt it's supposed to! Possibly Phil Spector but can't remember Noel ever mentioning him as an influence!
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 3, 2023 8:10:42 GMT -5
How is it holding up in the charts so far ?? #2 and #3 (deluxe and standard) on Itunes, #1 on Apple Music, #2 and #3 on Amazon Music, #2,#5,#8 and #14 in Amazon CD & Vinyl (vinyl only it's #2 and #4), first proper chart update will be maybe tomorrow, otherwise we'll have to wait for monday |
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Post by andymorris on Jun 3, 2023 8:33:44 GMT -5
Was trying to think for ages why There She Blows sounds familiar. This is probably as blatant a rip as you'll find from Noel. I love Cotton Mather. He was a big fan of Cotton Mather too so yes, definitely. They opened for oasis during the sotsog tour too |
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Post by asimarx on Jun 3, 2023 8:36:43 GMT -5
I'm still waiting on my order from the official store. Just wondered if anyone has a clear scan of the liner notes for the bonus disc? Especially curious about Don't Stop..., I suspect this version was recorded during the Chasing Yesterday sessions with the orchestra added only now.
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Post by Supersonic on Jun 3, 2023 8:52:05 GMT -5
I'm still waiting on my order from the official store. Just wondered if anyone has a clear scan of the liner notes for the bonus disc? Especially curious about Don't Stop..., I suspect this version was recorded during the Chasing Yesterday sessions with the orchestra added only now. It is the original demo, the vocal and the guitar is identical |
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Post by spaneli on Jun 3, 2023 8:59:23 GMT -5
Interesting. Ending with “I’m Not Giving Up Tonight” would be basic. I think he’s got right where it should be as a lead off to the album. |
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Post by Firefly on Jun 3, 2023 9:24:20 GMT -5
Interesting. Ending with “I’m Not Giving Up Tonight” would be basic. I think he’s got right where it should be as a lead off to the album. Seems to be in a period of second guessing himself, understandable when he's going through a divorce and confidence has taken a knock. Was surprised to hear him criticise his albums the way he did, like he didn't have anything good to say about DOYS which is a fucking fantastic album even if the tail end is questionable. Shame. |
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Post by andymorris on Jun 3, 2023 10:05:47 GMT -5
Old man yell at cloud that NME interview
AI oasis is great stuff.
Also he’s basically saying this record is flawed and he’s right. Rushed ?
Also bashing stop the clocks when it was the greatest song ever 15 years ago… Noel Gallagher sometimes 🧐
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 3, 2023 10:13:10 GMT -5
If "Stop the Clocks" had a proper chorus it would be an all-timer.
Still a sweet little tune as it is.
All of his closers have been better since then, though.
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Post by AllOrNothing on Jun 3, 2023 10:15:10 GMT -5
Interesting. Ending with “I’m Not Giving Up Tonight” would be basic. I think he’s got right where it should be as a lead off to the album. Seems to be in a period of second guessing himself, understandable when he's going through a divorce and confidence has taken a knock. Was surprised to hear him criticise his albums the way he did, like he didn't have anything good to say about DOYS which is a fucking fantastic album even if the tail end is questionable. Shame. To be honest I always find an artist's input on his own work interesting. Charles Mingus did the same in 1974 when he released "Changes One" and "Changes Two" and called it his best work (which simply put is untrue when you have already released absolute masterpieces such as the Clown in 1957). Anyway enough jazz nerding, I'm quite happy Noel proves eager to criticise his work as he's not know usually for being the most humble person alive. I can do with a bit of adult mindset |
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Post by spaneli on Jun 3, 2023 10:34:57 GMT -5
Old man yell at cloud that NME interview AI oasis is great stuff. Also he’s basically saying this record is flawed and he’s right. Rushed ? Also bashing stop the clocks when it was the greatest song ever 15 years ago… Noel Gallagher sometimes 🧐 I personally hate all of the AI stuff, and most filmmakers (in my situation) that I know hate it too. It’s disrespectful af imo to the artist. I can see it being especially grating to someone like Noel: if he wanted Liam on x song, he’d done it. Those songs have an emotional resonance to Noel—from writing to recording to singing it—and it’s odd that fans can’t see how insanely selfish it is to ignore that in lieu of the momentary glee that comes from a barely passable magic trick like AI (because mind you, the great majority of AI sounds like shit… which in itself denigrates the effort put in by the artist). To my mind, the rise of AI in these artistic situations isn’t unlike the same impulse that has led to so many franchise movies, movies which only exist to provide answers to questions that didn’t need answers (ie something like Solo for the Star Wars franchise). There’s a general uneasiness of allowing art to exist in ambiguity or allowing the piece to stand on its own. Recently, people have been using AI to imagine the background to the Mona Lisa. Like… what? Why? Maybe I’m also an old man yelling at clouds, but what a boring way to engage in art and the artist you love. |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Jun 3, 2023 10:40:48 GMT -5
Am I hearing things, or...
...Does the end of TOAN have the same atmospheric music as Trying to Find a World That's Been and Gone??
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Jun 3, 2023 10:50:36 GMT -5
Well that's interesting, I'll surely try it out. So far I've been listening like this: I'm Not Giving Up Tonight Pretty Boy (Robert Smith's remix) Dead to the World We're Gonna Get There In The End Trying to Find A World Council Skies There she Blows! Love Is A Rich Man Think Of A Number Don't Stop Has a really nice flow and sounds a bit happier album IMO. |
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Post by bestwick8 on Jun 3, 2023 11:01:53 GMT -5
How is it holding up in the charts so far ?? #2 and #3 (deluxe and standard) on Itunes, #1 on Apple Music, #2 and #3 on Amazon Music, #2,#5,#8 and #14 in Amazon CD & Vinyl (vinyl only it's #2 and #4), first proper chart update will be maybe tomorrow, otherwise we'll have to wait for monday So good chance of a number one ? |
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Post by andymorris on Jun 3, 2023 11:05:40 GMT -5
Old man yell at cloud that NME interview AI oasis is great stuff. Also he’s basically saying this record is flawed and he’s right. Rushed ? Also bashing stop the clocks when it was the greatest song ever 15 years ago… Noel Gallagher sometimes 🧐 I personally hate all of the AI stuff, and most filmmakers (in my situation) that I know hate it too. It’s disrespectful af imo to the artist. I can see it being especially grating to someone like Noel: if he wanted Liam on x song, he’d done it. Those songs have an emotional resonance to Noel—from writing to recording to singing it—and it’s odd that fans can’t see how insanely selfish it is to ignore that in lieu of the momentary glee that comes from a barely passable magic trick like AI (because mind you, the great majority of AI sounds like shit… which in itself denigrates the effort put in by the artist). To my mind, the rise of AI in these artistic situations isn’t unlike the same impulse that has led to so many franchise movies, movies which only exist to provide answers to questions that didn’t need answers (ie something like Solo for the Star Wars franchise). There’s a general uneasiness of allowing art to exist in ambiguity or allowing the piece to stand on its own. Recently, people have been using AI to imagine the background to the Mona Lisa. Like… what? Why? Maybe I’m also an old man yelling at clouds, but what a boring way to engage in art and the artist you love. AI in my mind isn’t about replacing the artist. It’s a separate thing completely. It’s not about music, it’s about technology and creating a new form of art. It would be like in the 50s ignoring electric guitars because they are not the real sound of the guitar. Or pedals. Or synths in the 70s. Or 4K. Do movie maker ignore 4K ? Special effects ? Come on… they just feel threatened You need to live in the era you’re in and make the most of it, find a good way to use tech. I doubt AI will ever replace acts like Noel. It will live alongside of it. Simply because fans of that music will always favor « real » artists over fake ones. They won’t go to that AI gig. AI music will be for pop music and stuff that are already fake. People who don’t care if it’s true or not. Plus Noel has been using autotune, logic and many other artificial tools over the years, so yes in a way it’s old man yelling at clouds. Because the music he puts out is far from being 100% real. Especially his vocals. AI is great to hear what could have been, it tickles the imagination. Maybe you have not heard all the AI oasis on YouTube some of them are outstanding. |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Jun 3, 2023 11:07:52 GMT -5
Anyone know where to find accurate lyrics? (I bought it digitally)
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 3, 2023 11:14:07 GMT -5
#2 and #3 (deluxe and standard) on Itunes, #1 on Apple Music, #2 and #3 on Amazon Music, #2,#5,#8 and #14 in Amazon CD & Vinyl (vinyl only it's #2 and #4), first proper chart update will be maybe tomorrow, otherwise we'll have to wait for monday So good chance of a number one ? Guess so but it's gonna be close with the Foo Fighters |
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Post by neila83 on Jun 3, 2023 11:43:13 GMT -5
Old man yell at cloud that NME interview AI oasis is great stuff. Also he’s basically saying this record is flawed and he’s right. Rushed ? Also bashing stop the clocks when it was the greatest song ever 15 years ago… Noel Gallagher sometimes 🧐 I personally hate all of the AI stuff, and most filmmakers (in my situation) that I know hate it too. It’s disrespectful af imo to the artist. I can see it being especially grating to someone like Noel: if he wanted Liam on x song, he’d done it. Those songs have an emotional resonance to Noel—from writing to recording to singing it—and it’s odd that fans can’t see how insanely selfish it is to ignore that in lieu of the momentary glee that comes from a barely passable magic trick like AI (because mind you, the great majority of AI sounds like shit… which in itself denigrates the effort put in by the artist). To my mind, the rise of AI in these artistic situations isn’t unlike the same impulse that has led to so many franchise movies, movies which only exist to provide answers to questions that didn’t need answers (ie something like Solo for the Star Wars franchise). There’s a general uneasiness of allowing art to exist in ambiguity or allowing the piece to stand on its own. Recently, people have been using AI to imagine the background to the Mona Lisa. Like… what? Why? Maybe I’m also an old man yelling at clouds, but what a boring way to engage in art and the artist you love. Completely agree. My brother is a huge Beatles nerd what people are doing with AI there is causing a lot of controversy, and he told me one community has banned links to AI stuff. It's not comparable to when electric guitars arrived in any way, no idea how someone made that comparison. How is an artist themself choosing their instrumentation equivalent to someone butchering their work, presenting it as something it isn't, and publishing it to the world? It's just another bit of mystery lost, people want to know what something sounds like, so think they have the right to it. It's not Liam singing Don't Stop, it's a machine. It shows so little respect for the artist. Will we have AI 'improving' pieces of art? Rewriting books in someone else's style? Imagine as an artist having put so much work into something, that is the way it is for all sorts of personal reasons, and someone comes along and tells the world they've made a better version in 2 minutes on a computer. Of course people will justify it to themselves because their need to hear once as a gimmick what Liam sounds like singing Dream On outweights any respect they have for either Noel or Liam. I can't imagine Liam would like it much either, what singer wants to hear a machine recreating their voice but slightly off with weird phrasing and being presented as them, when it isn't? I'd be mighty pissed off. We're at a stage where soon it'll be impossible to know what is real and what isn't, fake art, events, interviews, news are going to be everywhere, personally I don't see anything positive this is offering whatsoever. But yeh, someone gets to hear a fake Liam sing Dream on. Great, well worth it. |
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