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Post by ricardogce on Nov 11, 2017 16:34:18 GMT -5
I would call that a maliciously biased reading of what was actually said, but I don't like understatements. I would call your avatar bias. You are aware this is an Oasis-and-related-projects forum, yeah? Liam's album sold over 100k units in its first week, in an increasingly shrinking market for physical media. It has a score of 71 on Metacritic (currently higher than either NGHFB release, though of course time may level them out). You can enjoy the interview all you like, but unpopular, it isn't. And of course Noel is free not to want to pal around with his brother. If mine called my wife a "shit Meg", I wouldn't feel very friendly towards him, either. Who exactly is arguing that he is wrong to take that attitude?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 16:35:00 GMT -5
My fishy things meter has just exploded.
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 11, 2017 16:35:40 GMT -5
i want to know just where noel was when he saw adele singing into a bucket? maybe she was arseholed at his 50th bday fuck knows Singing into buckets is gonna be the hot thing at all proper experimental and out there gigs next year.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Nov 11, 2017 16:36:34 GMT -5
This fucking forum, I swear...
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Post by elephantstone93 on Nov 11, 2017 16:37:25 GMT -5
citykev and neila83 read like one person switching between two accounts 😂
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 16:42:30 GMT -5
citykev and neila83 read like one person switching between two accounts 😂 I´m happy to know you also have a fishy things meter.
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Post by carlober on Nov 11, 2017 16:43:02 GMT -5
Is this thread still going?
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Post by citykev on Nov 11, 2017 16:43:33 GMT -5
I would call your avatar bias. You are aware this is an Oasis-and-related-projects forum, yeah? Liam's album sold over 100k units in its first week, in an increasingly shrinking market for physical media. It has a score of 71 on Metacritic (currently higher than either NGHFB release, though of course time may level them out). You can enjoy the interview all you like, but unpopular, it isn't. And of course Noel is free not to want to pal around with his brother. If mine called my wife a "shit Meg", I wouldn't feel very friendly towards him, either. Who exactly is arguing that he is wrong to take that attitude? Sales isn’t a judge of quality. Liam sold well because he had promoted it for months and months and used every trick to sell his album, including getting in papers by slagging his brothers family off. I bought the album but I don’t rate it now, and people I know say the same. Just talking from personal experience. Metacritic score means little, he promoted and gave interviews everywhere so guaranteed at least a decent score.
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Post by neila83 on Nov 11, 2017 16:44:38 GMT -5
citykev and neila83 read like one person switching between two accounts 😂 Two people with the same opinion, crazy. If citykev's city happens to be Mexico City though I'd love to meet for a drink, it's a warm sunny day and beers are 80 pence each in the bar.
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Post by citykev on Nov 11, 2017 16:45:46 GMT -5
citykev and neila83 read like one person switching between two accounts 😂 Two people with the same opinion, crazy. If citykev's city happens to be Mexico City though I'd love to meet for a drink, it's a warm sunny day and beers are 80 pence each in the bar. Lol sadly not, would bloody love to go there but stuck here in gloomy England. : )
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 16:47:23 GMT -5
To be fair, i don´t think the two users are the same person but ya know citykev, you are highly similar to somebody who was here some weeks ago. Even the method of operation and content in your posts is the same.
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 11, 2017 16:52:34 GMT -5
You are aware this is an Oasis-and-related-projects forum, yeah? Liam's album sold over 100k units in its first week, in an increasingly shrinking market for physical media. It has a score of 71 on Metacritic (currently higher than either NGHFB release, though of course time may level them out). You can enjoy the interview all you like, but unpopular, it isn't. And of course Noel is free not to want to pal around with his brother. If mine called my wife a "shit Meg", I wouldn't feel very friendly towards him, either. Who exactly is arguing that he is wrong to take that attitude? Sales isn’t a judge of quality. Liam sold well because he had promoted it for months and months and used every trick to sell his album, including getting in papers by slagging his brothers family off. I bought the album but I don’t rate it now, and people I know say the same. Just talking from personal experience. Metacritic score means little, he promoted and gave interviews everywhere so guaranteed at least a decent score. Liam sold his album the same way Noel is selling his. Album purchases attached to ticket purchases, etc. etc. It's the modern marketplace, and all artists are playing within the new rules. If neither sales nor an aggregation of professional critic scores are an indicator of quality, then perhaps you can share what your parameters are? You're rejecting commercial AND critical success, so how do you measure quality?
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Post by batfink30 on Nov 11, 2017 16:56:45 GMT -5
You are aware this is an Oasis-and-related-projects forum, yeah? Liam's album sold over 100k units in its first week, in an increasingly shrinking market for physical media. It has a score of 71 on Metacritic (currently higher than either NGHFB release, though of course time may level them out). You can enjoy the interview all you like, but unpopular, it isn't. And of course Noel is free not to want to pal around with his brother. If mine called my wife a "shit Meg", I wouldn't feel very friendly towards him, either. Who exactly is arguing that he is wrong to take that attitude? Sales isn’t a judge of quality. Liam sold well because he had promoted it for months and months and used every trick to sell his album, including getting in papers by slagging his brothers family off. I bought the album but I don’t rate it now, and people I know say the same. Just talking from personal experience. Metacritic score means little, he promoted and gave interviews everywhere so guaranteed at least a decent score. Liams album is of Beady Eye quality. Even the shit songwriter from Cherry Ghost (who) couldn't save it.
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Post by citykev on Nov 11, 2017 17:04:14 GMT -5
Sales isn’t a judge of quality. Liam sold well because he had promoted it for months and months and used every trick to sell his album, including getting in papers by slagging his brothers family off. I bought the album but I don’t rate it now, and people I know say the same. Just talking from personal experience. Metacritic score means little, he promoted and gave interviews everywhere so guaranteed at least a decent score. Liam sold his album the same way Noel is selling his. Album purchases attached to ticket purchases, etc. etc. It's the modern marketplace, and all artists are playing within the new rules. If neither sales nor an aggregation of professional critic scores are an indicator of quality, then perhaps you can share what your parameters are? You're rejecting commercial AND critical success, so how do you measure quality? My own ears. Don’t need anything else.
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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 11, 2017 17:04:39 GMT -5
Sales isn’t a judge of quality. Liam sold well because he had promoted it for months and months and used every trick to sell his album, including getting in papers by slagging his brothers family off. I bought the album but I don’t rate it now, and people I know say the same. Just talking from personal experience. Metacritic score means little, he promoted and gave interviews everywhere so guaranteed at least a decent score. Liam sold his album the same way Noel is selling his. Album purchases attached to ticket purchases, etc. etc. It's the modern marketplace, and all artists are playing within the new rules. If neither sales nor an aggregation of professional critic scores are an indicator of quality, then perhaps you can share what your parameters are? You're rejecting commercial AND critical success, so how do you measure quality? Noel Fanboys are like Apple Fanboys. If Noel approved,it is approved. Noel has not approved Liam’s solo album. Meta critic is not Noel endorsed. And sales - agh. How dare we let popularity be the judge. Well let’s add ticket sales shall we? Again Liam is rocking this too. What will Noelfan Boys say? They will call Liam an oasis tribute band and that is why he is out selling Noel. There is a theme...none of this has anything to do with: - boring Noel set lists that never change - Noel’s tendency to slag off his own albums (BHN) - Noel being a grump when fans meet him - Noel’s spotty consistency of output. - Noel’s lack of enthusiasm for his album - Noel slagging off people like AA - Noel acting like a guy who wants to be Sir Noel Gallagher (hanging with Bono and others) It is never the chiefs fault. Morrissey Fanboys are similar. Always loving everything he does.
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Post by citykev on Nov 11, 2017 17:05:45 GMT -5
To be fair, i don´t think the two users are the same person but ya know citykev, you are highly similar to somebody who was here some weeks ago. Even the method of operation and content in your posts is the same. not sure what that means. Just sharing my opinion like everyone else on here.
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Post by citykev on Nov 11, 2017 17:06:40 GMT -5
Liam sold his album the same way Noel is selling his. Album purchases attached to ticket purchases, etc. etc. It's the modern marketplace, and all artists are playing within the new rules. If neither sales nor an aggregation of professional critic scores are an indicator of quality, then perhaps you can share what your parameters are? You're rejecting commercial AND critical success, so how do you measure quality? Noel Fanboys are lime Apple Fanboys. If Noel approved,it is approved. Noel has not approved Liam’s solo album. Meta critic is not noelcendorsed. And sales - agh. How dare we let popularity be the judge. Well let’s add ticket sales shall we. Again Liam is rocking this too. What will Noelfan Boys say? They will call Liam an oasis tribute band and that is why he is out selling Noel. There is a theme...none of this has anything to do with: - boring Noel set lists that never change - Noel’s tendency to slag off his own albums (BHN) - Noel being a grump when fans meet him - Noel’s spotty consistency of output. It is never the chiefs fault. Morrissey Fanboys are similar. Always loving everything he does. Thanks Liam.
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Post by glider on Nov 11, 2017 17:08:51 GMT -5
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Post by neila83 on Nov 11, 2017 17:12:03 GMT -5
Liam sold his album the same way Noel is selling his. Album purchases attached to ticket purchases, etc. etc. It's the modern marketplace, and all artists are playing within the new rules. If neither sales nor an aggregation of professional critic scores are an indicator of quality, then perhaps you can share what your parameters are? You're rejecting commercial AND critical success, so how do you measure quality? Noel Fanboys are lime Apple Fanboys. If Noel approved,it is approved. Noel has not approved Liam’s solo album. Meta critic is not noelcendorsed. And sales - agh. How dare we let popularity be the judge. Well let’s add ticket sales shall we. Again Liam is rocking this too. What will Noelfan Boys say? They will call Liam an oasis tribute band and that is why he is out selling Noel. There is a theme...none of this has anything to do with: - boring Noel set lists that never change - Noel’s tendency to slag off his own albums (BHN) - Noel being a grump when fans meet him - Noel’s spotty consistency of output. It is never the chiefs fault. Morrissey Fanboys are similar. Always loving everything he does. Erm, given that Liam will sell nowhere near as many albums as Noel's first album, or his second I expect, or tickets as Noel's previous tours, what does that mean? Trouble with using sales as your barometer...and no, I don't think better sales mean Noel's albums were far better than As you were. They are meaningless. It's my opinion Noel's albums are better, but others here disagree, fair enough. Perhaps, if people don't like an album it doesn't mean they're a fanboy, they just don't like that album. The irony iof your last two sentences is telling.
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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 11, 2017 17:13:02 GMT -5
Sales isn’t a judge of quality. Liam sold well because he had promoted it for months and months and used every trick to sell his album, including getting in papers by slagging his brothers family off. I bought the album but I don’t rate it now, and people I know say the same. Just talking from personal experience. Metacritic score means little, he promoted and gave interviews everywhere so guaranteed at least a decent score. Liams album is of Beady Eye quality. Even the shit songwriter from Cherry Ghost (who) couldn't save it. What is the reason Holy Mountain is so terrible? Could Holmes not save that either? Logic: If it was popular with oasis/ Noel fans it would have charted at least as well as Liam’s. If it was popular with a broader audience it would do even better. If it was popular with the label and DJs they wouldn’t have reacted negatively. So...who is left to give this song credibility? Critics? Sure. But wait...pitchfork is likely to hate it too. Why or why does every group of people not see the genius? I wish I could see what that small group of brilliant noelboys see...how do I miss this? How does everyone miss this?
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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 11, 2017 17:15:53 GMT -5
Noel Fanboys are lime Apple Fanboys. If Noel approved,it is approved. Noel has not approved Liam’s solo album. Meta critic is not noelcendorsed. And sales - agh. How dare we let popularity be the judge. Well let’s add ticket sales shall we. Again Liam is rocking this too. What will Noelfan Boys say? They will call Liam an oasis tribute band and that is why he is out selling Noel. There is a theme...none of this has anything to do with: - boring Noel set lists that never change - Noel’s tendency to slag off his own albums (BHN) - Noel being a grump when fans meet him - Noel’s spotty consistency of output. It is never the chiefs fault. Morrissey Fanboys are similar. Always loving everything he does. Erm, given that Liam will sell nowhere near as many albums as Noel's first album, or his second I expect, or tickets as Noel's previous tours, what does that mean? Trouble with using sales as your barometer...and no, I don't think better sales mean Noel's albums were far better than As you were. They are meaningless. It's my opinion Noel's albums are better, but others here disagree, fair enough. Perhaps, if people don't like an album it doesn't mean they're a fanboy, they just don't like that album. The irony iof your last two sentences is telling. Umm...that is not what Irony means. But thanks for playing along.
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Post by citykev on Nov 11, 2017 17:16:35 GMT -5
Liams album is of Beady Eye quality. Even the shit songwriter from Cherry Ghost (who) couldn't save it. What is the reason Holy Mountain is so terrible? Could Holmes not save that either? Logic: If it was popular with oasis/ Noel fans it would have charted at least as well as Liam’s. If it was popular with a broader audience it would do even better. If it was popular with the label and DJs they wouldn’t have reacted negatively. So...who is left to give this song credibility? Critics? Sure. But wait...pitchfork is likely to hate it too. Why or why does every group of people not see the genius? I wish I could see what that small group of brilliant noelboys see...how do I miss this? How does everyone miss this? Who cares what anyone else thinks?! HM isn’t terrible imo, really great song.
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Post by ricksanchez on Nov 11, 2017 17:17:29 GMT -5
Hello, can someone give me the link for the Oasis forum?
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Post by Godlike on Nov 11, 2017 17:25:25 GMT -5
Its so hilarious seeing noel fanboys butthurt because liam is killing him in record sales,concert ticket sales,press,likability, closer with his family, more rock n roll sound, more livly gigs, better voice, funnier in interviews and most importantly showing who really cares about oasis and their fans. Don't even respond your a bunch of fucking crybabies cuz nothing you can say will make it change "The resurrection's on and YOU were wrong"
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 11, 2017 17:27:42 GMT -5
This forum is more divided than US politics.
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