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Post by neila83 on Nov 11, 2017 11:48:00 GMT -5
What matters is that a Gallagher is making the most interesting and vibrant music ever associated with the name. And I happen to think its damn good as well. So glad they've got the beats per minute up again, music you can actually put on and have a few drinks too before going out, Fort Knox is a monster for that. It's a shame if anyone lets personality contests get in the way of them enjoying that.
I appreciate it's not to some people's taste which is a shame, but no way in hell is it bad music, which is going to get the crowd going more at a festival, Holy Mountain or Riverman for christ's sake?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 11:52:31 GMT -5
If you don't like Noel, don't listen to him and don't whine about him.
If you don't like Liam, don't listen to him and don't whine about him.
Problem solved.
Christ.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Nov 11, 2017 11:53:44 GMT -5
What matters is that a Gallagher is making the most interesting and vibrant music ever associated with the name. And I happen to think its damn good as well. So glad they've got the beats per minute up again, music you can actually put on and have a few drinks too before going out, Fort Knox is a monster for that. It's a shame if anyone lets personality contests get in the way of them enjoying that. I appreciate it's not to some people's taste which is a shame, but no way in hell is it bad music, which is going to get the crowd going more at a festival, Holy Mountain or Riverman for christ's sake? It's fair to say that 2017 is the comeback year of the Gallaghers - Liam moreso than Noel at the moment. AYW, and what we have heard so far from Noel's new album, is proving better than what we got during the Oasis Mk2 era. It's a great time to be an Oasis fan again. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 11, 2017 11:56:11 GMT -5
What matters is that a Gallagher is making the most interesting and vibrant music ever associated with the name. And I happen to think its damn good as well. So glad they've got the beats per minute up again, music you can actually put on and have a few drinks too before going out, Fort Knox is a monster for that. It's a shame if anyone lets personality contests get in the way of them enjoying that. I appreciate it's not to some people's taste which is a shame, but no way in hell is it bad music, which is going to get the crowd going more at a festival, Holy Mountain or Riverman for christ's sake? It's fair to say that 2017 is the comeback year of the Gallaghers - Liam moreso than Noel at the moment. AYW, and what we have heard so far from Noel's new album, is proving better than what we got during the Oasis Mk2 era. It's a great time to be an Oasis fan again. Liam's back where he should be, Noel's moving where he should have moved a long time ago. Halcyon days. You wouldn't know it on here, though. |
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Post by ricksanchez on Nov 11, 2017 12:02:37 GMT -5
Noels logic: Liam getting help from a co-writer = shit Noel getting help from The real people in writing defintly maybe + cowriting rockin chair = genius Noel cowriting roll with it with Evan dando and then ignoring his existence = genius Noel ripping off neil innes, stevie wonder and gary glitter so bad that he legally has to give them cowriter credit = genius Yea, makes sense.......... And never forget who wrote the lyrics of Columbia... and got no credit for it. 1997 Oasis being U2 support band and Liam saying Bono is God and I'm Jesus... 2017 I'd rather eat my own shit than than listen to them bunch of beige fucks as you were . I been an Oasis fan since 1995 and I've never seen any Noel/Liam public declaration that isn't full of BS, contradictory, etc. If you are trying to find sense in what Noel/Liam say, you are definitely wasting your time. I really find this team Noel/team Liam boring, as boring as Liam nowaysis band and as boring as the flying birds last 2 records. I don't get why people gotta choose one side, this is not football is freaking music. Muchas Gracias.  |
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 11, 2017 14:01:37 GMT -5
And never forget who wrote the lyrics of Columbia... and got no credit for it.
2017 I'd rather eat my own shit than than listen to them bunch of beige fucks as you were
. I been an Oasis fan since 1995 and I've never seen any Noel/Liam public declaration that isn't full of BS, contradictory, etc. If you are trying to find sense in what Noel/Liam say, you are definitely wasting your time. I really find this team Noel/team Liam boring, as boring as Liam nowaysis band and as boring as the flying birds last 2 records. I don't get why people gotta choose one side, this is not football is freaking music. Muchas Gracias. 1997 U2 was the bollocks. Twenty years of Bono increasingly losing touch with reality have dampened my affection some. Why couldn't it be the same way for someone who was actually friends with him? Twenty years adjusts perspective a lot, especially once you enter your 40s and have enough distance to reassess your twenties. |
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 11, 2017 14:12:59 GMT -5
If you don't like Noel, don't listen to him and don't whine about him. If you don't like Liam, don't listen to him and don't whine about him. Problem solved. Christ. Hey stranger, good to see you again.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 14:18:39 GMT -5
What matters is that a Gallagher is making the most interesting and vibrant music ever associated with the name. And I happen to think its damn good as well. So glad they've got the beats per minute up again, music you can actually put on and have a few drinks too before going out, Fort Knox is a monster for that. It's a shame if anyone lets personality contests get in the way of them enjoying that. I appreciate it's not to some people's taste which is a shame, but no way in hell is it bad music, which is going to get the crowd going more at a festival, Holy Mountain or Riverman for christ's sake? Repeting that as gospel is not making the album any better. By the way, I been told that the reaction to the new material has been pretty cold in the last gigs... people are there for DLBIA and the masterplan... but whatever. |
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Nov 11, 2017 14:23:18 GMT -5
Noels logic: Liam getting help from a co-writer = shit Noel getting help from The real people in writing defintly maybe + cowriting rockin chair = genius Noel cowriting roll with it with Evan dando and then ignoring his existence = genius Noel ripping off neil innes, stevie wonder and gary glitter so bad that he legally has to give them cowriter credit = genius Yea, makes sense.......... A lot of Noel's songs are co-written in a way, it's just that it's done in the form of plagiarism as opposed to sat in a room with writers. Also, he already said he would play things for this new album and then Holmes would piece things together in the form of a track, then Noel would write on top of that. Is that not co-writing? That’s precisely what it is regardless of whether credit is given or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 14:32:42 GMT -5
Noel singing the chorus to "it's a beautiful world" on jools sounded fucking awful. And he's no longer singing the falsetto in what a life and has dropped the importance of being idle completley. These comments will come back to haunt him... its kind of simple. Both brothers never take care of their voice and have horrific habits. Especially smoking. There was nothing special with noel voice. Simply, it was better conservated because he was not been worn out as a draft horse in brutal tours. Now that he has been doing this on his own for some years, playing 20 songs per gig, its just normal to expirience the same problems. |
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Nov 11, 2017 14:38:02 GMT -5
And never forget who wrote the lyrics of Columbia... and got no credit for it. 1997 Oasis being U2 support band and Liam saying Bono is God and I'm Jesus... 2017 I'd rather eat my own shit than than listen to them bunch of beige fucks as you were . I been an Oasis fan since 1995 and I've never seen any Noel/Liam public declaration that isn't full of BS, contradictory, etc. If you are trying to find sense in what Noel/Liam say, you are definitely wasting your time. I really find this team Noel/team Liam boring, as boring as Liam nowaysis band and as boring as the flying birds last 2 records. I don't get why people gotta choose one side, this is not football is freaking music. Muchas Gracias. Doesn't change the fact that Liam wrote the lyrics of Columbia and got no credit for it. In fact, I think Liam adopted an agressive tone against Noel over the last few years because he regrets not standing up against some of Noel's stupid decisions and attitude towards those around him. |
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Nov 11, 2017 14:45:24 GMT -5
1997 Oasis being U2 support band and Liam saying Bono is God and I'm Jesus... 2017 I'd rather eat my own shit than than listen to them bunch of beige fucks as you were . I been an Oasis fan since 1995 and I've never seen any Noel/Liam public declaration that isn't full of BS, contradictory, etc. If you are trying to find sense in what Noel/Liam say, you are definitely wasting your time. I really find this team Noel/team Liam boring, as boring as Liam nowaysis band and as boring as the flying birds last 2 records. I don't get why people gotta choose one side, this is not football is freaking music. Muchas Gracias. Doesn't change the fact that Liam wrote the lyrics of Columbia and got no credit for it. In fact, I think Liam adopted an agressive tone against Noel over the last few years because he regrets not standing up against some of Noel's stupid decisions and attitude towards those around him. there’s an interesting thread from 2011 on this forum titled “Did Noel write the lyrics for Columbia” makes for a good read - sorry I don’t know how to link the thread but I found it via google. |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 11, 2017 15:01:55 GMT -5
I think the main reason there is a Noel/Liam divide is because of different perspectives on public image. People who lean Liam tend to want their musical heroes to be authentic, relatable, and just like them - an everyday guy who you could chat with in the pub and have a beer with. And they get that in every way with Liam. He's arrogant and unrestrained in ways that we'd all wish we could be, yet he's also got a big heart and is a good lad. Plus, he never forgot his roots, which makes him all the more relatable to the British working-class, which as I understand is still the main demographic of Oasis fans. In my experience, that's always how working-class folk think. They want their heroes to be just like them, to seem real, and not fake.
And let's compare that to Noel. Noel, on the other hand, is the complete embodiment of the opposite of Liam. He's arrogant, yes, but he embraced elitism once he became rich. He's been hopelessly out of touch since the 90's. That's why so many Liam fans don't like him. He's always been cold, distant, and condescending. Nothing's changed in that department. But people who are often grouped as part of "Team Noel" (which apparently includes me, even though I think As You Were is magnificent and betters Noel's solo debut) don't care about image nearly as much as people in the so-called "Team Liam". I can't speak for all of them, but for the most part I am not arsed at all about the person behind the music. I care about their background solely so I can better understand the music. I don't care if one of my musical heroes came from a different background from me. I only care if they make good music.
None of this should come as any surprise. Go back and listen to Wibbling Rivalry and the difference in attitude between the two brothers, and by extension, the vast majority of people who lean toward one or the other, has been apparent since day one. Do you want to be Keith Richards, or is it all about the MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC!!!! It's just that this schism has been greatly exacerbated ever since the breakup and has reared its toxic head once again.
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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 11, 2017 15:05:52 GMT -5
Noels logic: Liam getting help from a co-writer = shit Noel getting help from The real people in writing defintly maybe + cowriting rockin chair = genius Noel cowriting roll with it with Evan dando and then ignoring his existence = genius Noel ripping off neil innes, stevie wonder and gary glitter so bad that he legally has to give them cowriter credit = genius Yea, makes sense.......... -^^^^this^^^~. The dude is great but he had help. His ego is terrible. Those who have massive egos stop growing. This is Noel’s trouble. He enjoys large helpings of his press. Ah well. |
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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 11, 2017 15:07:32 GMT -5
Noels logic: Liam getting help from a co-writer = shit Noel getting help from The real people in writing defintly maybe + cowriting rockin chair = genius Noel cowriting roll with it with Evan dando and then ignoring his existence = genius Noel ripping off neil innes, stevie wonder and gary glitter so bad that he legally has to give them cowriter credit = genius Yea, makes sense.......... And never forget who wrote the lyrics of Columbia... and got no credit for it. Who is the bigger jerk: sting for stealing the writing credit for Every Breath or Noel for dozens of writing credits thefts? Or Morrissey for doing the same until he went to court? |
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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 11, 2017 15:09:08 GMT -5
The words of a defeated man. Fuck me, I'd be ashamed to put out music as bad as Holy Mountain. The table has turned and people are seeing through the bullshit he says to the press, and now it is working against him. It's a long way down, when you're the wrong way 'round. Yup. Zero disagreement. From many people if the charting of one Gallagher vs another is any indication. Which it is. Liam is reaching a whole generation. |
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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 11, 2017 15:12:36 GMT -5
What matters is that a Gallagher is making the most interesting and vibrant music ever associated with the name. And I happen to think its damn good as well. So glad they've got the beats per minute up again, music you can actually put on and have a few drinks too before going out, Fort Knox is a monster for that. It's a shame if anyone lets personality contests get in the way of them enjoying that. I appreciate it's not to some people's taste which is a shame, but no way in hell is it bad music, which is going to get the crowd going more at a festival, Holy Mountain or Riverman for christ's sake? Agree It Doesn’t Have to Be That Way is so fresh and exciting. We are I. Complete agreement that is is far more creative that Holy Hill |
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Post by citykev on Nov 11, 2017 15:15:36 GMT -5
This entire thread is hilarious. Noel has really got to the ‘Liam only’ fans.
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Post by neila83 on Nov 11, 2017 15:17:36 GMT -5
What matters is that a Gallagher is making the most interesting and vibrant music ever associated with the name. And I happen to think its damn good as well. So glad they've got the beats per minute up again, music you can actually put on and have a few drinks too before going out, Fort Knox is a monster for that. It's a shame if anyone lets personality contests get in the way of them enjoying that. I appreciate it's not to some people's taste which is a shame, but no way in hell is it bad music, which is going to get the crowd going more at a festival, Holy Mountain or Riverman for christ's sake? Repeting that as gospel is not making the album any better. By the way, I been told that the reaction to the new material has been pretty cold in the last gigs... people are there for DLBIA and the masterplan... but whatever. Sorry, I should have checked with you before forming my opinion, I now realise I am wrong to think the songs are great. I genuninely struggle to see how anyone could have been more excited by the chasing yesterday releases than this, baffles me. As I said I love it, does that bother you? I also think As You Were is dull as ditchwater, the definition of mid-tempo MOR and screams 'album by committee' but other people like it, good for them. And it's worth it to have Liam back giving the performances of Oasis songs he is. Yeh Liam and Noel will both always get a better reception for the Oasis stuff, it's how it is. I'm sure Some might say is going down a lot better than Chinatown. The reaction didnt look too cold in Sao Paulo. |
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Post by OasisFan199 on Nov 11, 2017 15:21:12 GMT -5
Repeting that as gospel is not making the album any better. By the way, I been told that the reaction to the new material has been pretty cold in the last gigs... people are there for DLBIA and the masterplan... but whatever. Sorry, I should have checked with you before forming my opinion, I now realise I am wrong to think the songs are great. I genuninely struggle to see how anyone could have been more excited by the chasing yesterday releases than this, baffles me. As I said I love it, does that bother you? I also think As You Were is dull as ditchwater, the definition of mid-tempo MOR and screams 'album by committee' but other people like it, good for them. Yeh Liam and Noel will both always get a better reception for the Oasis stuff, it's how it is. I'm sure Some might say is going down a lot better than Chinatown. The reaction didnt look too cold in Sao Paulo. Awesome post. Cheers. |
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 11, 2017 15:24:54 GMT -5
This entire thread is hilarious. Noel has really got to the ‘Liam only’ fans. Insult the people who buy the records, you'll get a reaction. I sorely wish people would stop acting like having an opinion is some sort of hysterical breakdown. It's so disingenuous. "People who don't like my new music are monkeys" "Piss off, you absolute twat" "I'm just sitting here calmly insulting your intelligence and you have the gall to take offense. What are you, some kind of animal?" It's ridiculous and transparent. Faux reasonableness stops being believable past age 14 or so. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 15:25:26 GMT -5
Repeting that as gospel is not making the album any better. By the way, I been told that the reaction to the new material has been pretty cold in the last gigs... people are there for DLBIA and the masterplan... but whatever. Sorry, I should have checked with you before forming my opinion, I now realise I am wrong to think the songs are great. I genuninely struggle to see how anyone could have been more excited by the chasing yesterday releases than this, baffles me. As I said I love it, does that bother you? I also think As You Were is dull as ditchwater, the definition of mid-tempo MOR and screams 'album by committee' but other people like it, good for them. And it's worth it to have Liam back giving the performances of Oasis songs he is. Yeh Liam and Noel will both always get a better reception for the Oasis stuff, it's how it is. I'm sure Some might say is going down a lot better than Chinatown. The reaction didnt look too cold in Sao Paulo. The new material was tanking bad and he asked the public to go wild with this song for his wife because it was her birthday. And then the short video was made. I m not making that up. |
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Post by citykev on Nov 11, 2017 15:25:53 GMT -5
Repeting that as gospel is not making the album any better. By the way, I been told that the reaction to the new material has been pretty cold in the last gigs... people are there for DLBIA and the masterplan... but whatever. Sorry, I should have checked with you before forming my opinion, I now realise I am wrong to think the songs are great. I genuninely struggle to see how anyone could have been more excited by the chasing yesterday releases than this, baffles me. As I said I love it, does that bother you? I also think As You Were is dull as ditchwater, the definition of mid-tempo MOR and screams 'album by committee' but other people like it, good for them. And it's worth it to have Liam back giving the performances of Oasis songs he is. Yeh Liam and Noel will both always get a better reception for the Oasis stuff, it's how it is. I'm sure Some might say is going down a lot better than Chinatown. The reaction didnt look too cold in Sao Paulo. Great post, agree that AYW is a poor album, sad to say since a few days after release I’ve not put AYW on again, just nothing fresh on there sadly, really wanted to love it. Reaction to Noel’s new songs have been great from what I’ve seen. |
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Post by citykev on Nov 11, 2017 15:27:47 GMT -5
This entire thread is hilarious. Noel has really got to the ‘Liam only’ fans. Insult the people who buy the records, you'll get a reaction. I sorely wish people would stop acting like having an opinion is some sort of hysterical breakdown. It's so disingenuous. "People who don't like my new music are monkeys" "Piss off, you absolute twat" "I'm just sitting here calmly insulting your intelligence and you have the gall to take offense. What are you, some kind of animal?" It's ridiculous and transparent. Faux reasonableness stops being believable past age 14 or so. Find it hilarious how personal people take what Noel said. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Nov 11, 2017 15:29:47 GMT -5
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