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Post by neila83 on Sept 23, 2017 11:56:13 GMT -5
Also mentioned here: live4ever.proboards.com/thread/80826/french-rolling-stone#ixzz3RZ0J5cHNAlso in the StageLeft Podcast interview with Mike Rowe he mentioned that they recorded a new Noel song at the RTE 2FM, studio in Dublin when they were doing a radio session (Interview and TDOTL) so presumably Dead In The Water will be Noel acoustic with keys by Mike Rowe like that version of TDOTL? It wouldn't surprise me if we get some of the "traditional Noel" tracks that weren't specifically written for the album as b-sides in demo/acoustic form. Yeh, good point. Just having a listen to some of them again it reaffirms how glad I am he's doing something different, however good the melody is on Don't stop...for example, it just doesn't rouse anything in me anymore, it would be the same arrangement and instrumentation we've heard so many times, there's no surprises. It would be nice to hear them fully developed though, I'm still keen to hear God help us all done properly as it's not the usual melody/rhythm of a Noel ballad. Oh lord too could be interesting although it's impossible not to hear love like a bomb. |
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 23, 2017 11:56:27 GMT -5
I imagine we'll hear the single Monday, I can't really imagine all these interviews lined up and not dropping it, but then you never know with Noel. Given how Noel talks about albums we may know no more after the interviews than we do now, he doesn't tend to give much away except some vague meaningless combinations of adjectives. I just hope there's one really bombastic track in the vein of fucking in the bushes, knowing Noel is capable of that and has only done it once always seems a shame. Though I'm not sure I get the vibes it's that kind of album. I dunno, Moyles said Noel spoke for quite a long time about how and why the record was made in their interview, so we may get a bit of an idea from that. As for when the single gets released, I reckon Noel would want it released on a Friday so that they get a full week's sales so the chart position is higher. Wall of Glass came out on a Wednesday from what I remember and might have got top 10 if they'd released it on the Friday, rather than have the strongest days' sales split over two weeks. Perhaps a snippet of the song with the interviews on Monday, then radio play Wednesday, release on Friday. Hopefully he'll just do it all in one go, but I'd be a pleasantly surprised. |
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Post by neila83 on Sept 23, 2017 12:03:34 GMT -5
I imagine we'll hear the single Monday, I can't really imagine all these interviews lined up and not dropping it, but then you never know with Noel. Given how Noel talks about albums we may know no more after the interviews than we do now, he doesn't tend to give much away except some vague meaningless combinations of adjectives. I just hope there's one really bombastic track in the vein of fucking in the bushes, knowing Noel is capable of that and has only done it once always seems a shame. Though I'm not sure I get the vibes it's that kind of album. I dunno, Moyles said Noel spoke for quite a long time about how and why the record was made in their interview, so we may get a bit of an idea from that. As for when the single gets released, I reckon Noel would want it released on a Friday so that they get a full week's sales so the chart position is higher. Wall of Glass came out on a Wednesday from what I remember and might have got top 10 if they'd released it on the Friday, rather than have the strongest days' sales split over two weeks. Perhaps a snippet of the song with the interviews on Monday, then radio play Wednesday, release on Friday. Hopefully he'll just do it all in one go, but I'd be a pleasantly surprised. Good point, I forgot about that. It's intriguing, because it seems like he planned to just make an album in the normal way until David Holmes persuaded him otherwise, so I'm not sure about they 'why', it doesn't seem like he had any particular desire to change his whole approach. I wonder what was planted in his head? Fascinating this cycle. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2017 12:06:13 GMT -5
I imagine we'll hear the single Monday, I can't really imagine all these interviews lined up and not dropping it, but then you never know with Noel. Given how Noel talks about albums we may know no more after the interviews than we do now, he doesn't tend to give much away except some vague meaningless combinations of adjectives. I just hope there's one really bombastic track in the vein of fucking in the bushes, knowing Noel is capable of that and has only done it once always seems a shame. Though I'm not sure I get the vibes it's that kind of album. I dunno, Moyles said Noel spoke for quite a long time about how and why the record was made in their interview, so we may get a bit of an idea from that. As for when the single gets released, I reckon Noel would want it released on a Friday so that they get a full week's sales so the chart position is higher. Wall of Glass came out on a Wednesday from what I remember and might have got top 10 if they'd released it on the Friday, rather than have the strongest days' sales split over two weeks. Perhaps a snippet of the song with the interviews on Monday, then radio play Wednesday, release on Friday. Hopefully he'll just do it all in one go, but I'd be a pleasantly surprised. Yes it would be lame as hell not to play a new song on Monday. Noel is one of the few older acts that still do that shit. Announce shit early in the week but no new material until later. Modern bands just release it all the same day. NEW ALBUM! NEW TOUR DATES! LISTEN TO NEW SINGLE!That is how it should be done in today's society and it is mostly done that way. Hopefully Noel isn't that guy still. On the flip side I do get waiting for Friday. That is when chart success is counted for the following week. So I could see Noel wanting to wait for that or just announce everything on Friday. Who knows. |
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 23, 2017 12:19:31 GMT -5
I dunno, Moyles said Noel spoke for quite a long time about how and why the record was made in their interview, so we may get a bit of an idea from that. As for when the single gets released, I reckon Noel would want it released on a Friday so that they get a full week's sales so the chart position is higher. Wall of Glass came out on a Wednesday from what I remember and might have got top 10 if they'd released it on the Friday, rather than have the strongest days' sales split over two weeks. Perhaps a snippet of the song with the interviews on Monday, then radio play Wednesday, release on Friday. Hopefully he'll just do it all in one go, but I'd be a pleasantly surprised. Yes it would be lame as hell not to play a new song on Monday. Noel is one of the few older acts that still do that shit. Announce shit early in the week but no new material until later. Modern bands just release it all the same day. NEW ALBUM! NEW TOUR DATES! LISTEN TO NEW SINGLE!That is how it should be done in today's society and it is mostly done that way. Hopefully Noel isn't that guy still. On the flip side I do get waiting for Friday. That is when chart success is counted for the following week. So I could see Noel wanting to wait for that or just announce everything on Friday. Who knows. Is the 6 Music interview live? I know the others are pre-recorded but not sure about this one. He must be flying out to South America for the next U2 gigs later this week if they are starting at the beginning of October, so may be why it's getting announced on Monday. |
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Post by neila83 on Sept 23, 2017 12:52:07 GMT -5
I dunno, Moyles said Noel spoke for quite a long time about how and why the record was made in their interview, so we may get a bit of an idea from that. As for when the single gets released, I reckon Noel would want it released on a Friday so that they get a full week's sales so the chart position is higher. Wall of Glass came out on a Wednesday from what I remember and might have got top 10 if they'd released it on the Friday, rather than have the strongest days' sales split over two weeks. Perhaps a snippet of the song with the interviews on Monday, then radio play Wednesday, release on Friday. Hopefully he'll just do it all in one go, but I'd be a pleasantly surprised. Yes it would be lame as hell not to play a new song on Monday. Noel is one of the few older acts that still do that shit. Announce shit early in the week but no new material until later. Modern bands just release it all the same day. NEW ALBUM! NEW TOUR DATES! LISTEN TO NEW SINGLE!That is how it should be done in today's society and it is mostly done that way. Hopefully Noel isn't that guy still. On the flip side I do get waiting for Friday. That is when chart success is counted for the following week. So I could see Noel wanting to wait for that or just announce everything on Friday. Who knows. And really, do singles sales mean anything whatsoever these days? I know Noel is still obviously bothered about getting a number 1 album, and understand that with his record. But for a single just getting it out there is more important I'd have thought, and actually I see getting a song out at the beginning of the week as making more impact than just before the weekend. A monday morning radio slot is going to get far more listeners than randomly on a friday. The interview is when he'll have the attention, otherwise they probably won't even play it in prime time. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 23, 2017 13:06:55 GMT -5
Great detective work yesterday guys,
Looking forward to hearing the single. Hopefully Monday!
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Post by Doc Lobster on Sept 23, 2017 13:21:24 GMT -5
Regarding the bonus track Dead in the Water, here's Mike Rowe briefly talking about it (from 25:06 on):
https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/198124223
So Noel played it on the radio (presumably on acoustic guitar) with Mike on keyboards, and he later added more stuff to the recording while on the road. The same radio session gave us this performance:
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2017 13:31:11 GMT -5
Regarding the bonus track Dead in the Water, here's Mike Rowe briefly talking about it (from 25:06 on): https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/198124223So Noel played it on the radio (presumably on acoustic guitar) with Mike on keyboards, and he later added more stuff to the recording while on the road. The same radio session gave us this performance: Boy for an American Mike Rowe is starting to sound very un-American in this interview. Probably spent too much time in England. Since Noel's rule was no outside material to be used for the Holmes sessions it makes sense Dead On The Water isn't on the official album. Nice to see Noel stick to that creed. I hope it remains true. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2017 13:33:50 GMT -5
Yes it would be lame as hell not to play a new song on Monday. Noel is one of the few older acts that still do that shit. Announce shit early in the week but no new material until later. Modern bands just release it all the same day. NEW ALBUM! NEW TOUR DATES! LISTEN TO NEW SINGLE!That is how it should be done in today's society and it is mostly done that way. Hopefully Noel isn't that guy still. On the flip side I do get waiting for Friday. That is when chart success is counted for the following week. So I could see Noel wanting to wait for that or just announce everything on Friday. Who knows. And really, do singles sales mean anything whatsoever these days? I know Noel is still obviously bothered about getting a number 1 album, and understand that with his record. But for a single just getting it out there is more important I'd have thought, and actually I see getting a song out at the beginning of the week as making more impact than just before the weekend. A monday morning radio slot is going to get far more listeners than randomly on a friday. The interview is when he'll have the attention, otherwise they probably won't even play it in prime time. Who knows what their mentality is. I think Noel realizes he won't have anymore #1 singles. That ship has sailed forever. He can however still get an album to #1. That seems way easier at the moment. Could change with time and the counting of all these streaming devices. I'd prefer Monday honestly like you said. No idea why Friday is now the official start of the chart rules. |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Sept 23, 2017 13:37:25 GMT -5
Regarding the bonus track Dead in the Water, here's Mike Rowe briefly talking about it (from 25:06 on): https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/198124223So Noel played it on the radio (presumably on acoustic guitar) with Mike on keyboards, and he later added more stuff to the recording while on the road. The same radio session gave us this performance: Boy for an American Mike Rowe is starting to sound very un-American in this interview. Probably spent too much time in England. Since Noel's rule was no outside material to be used for the Holmes sessions it makes sense Dead On The Water isn't on the official album. Nice to see Noel stick to that creed. I hope it remains true. Er... I'm pretty sure Mike Rowe is British. Was that a joke I didn't get? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2017 13:40:52 GMT -5
Boy for an American Mike Rowe is starting to sound very un-American in this interview. Probably spent too much time in England. Since Noel's rule was no outside material to be used for the Holmes sessions it makes sense Dead On The Water isn't on the official album. Nice to see Noel stick to that creed. I hope it remains true. Er... I'm pretty sure Mike Rowe is British. Was that a joke I didn't get? Damn. I always thought he was an American. Never heard him speak prior to this. My bad.  |
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Post by bestwick8 on Sept 23, 2017 14:27:17 GMT -5
Any chance of an autographed vinyl album for pre orders this time ? Or just a special box set?
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Post by carlober on Sept 23, 2017 14:44:34 GMT -5
Any chance of an autographed vinyl album for pre orders this time ? Or just a special box set? I'm pretty sure Noel can't be arsed signing thousands of albums. And usually artists as big as him don't do that kind of stuff. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2017 14:56:37 GMT -5
Any chance of an autographed vinyl album for pre orders this time ? Or just a special box set? I'm pretty sure Noel can't be arsed signing thousands of albums. And usually artists as big as him don't do that kind of stuff. A record store in Boston promoted that back in 2011. I bought two autographed copies online. It was later canceled saying Noel didn’t sign the shipments to their store or they were mistaken in that even happening . I was bummed. I did however get the signed BE back in 2013 from the Beady Eye website. |
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Post by morning_rain on Sept 23, 2017 15:04:47 GMT -5
The artwork looks awful to me, it feels amateur and cheap, it reminds me of the discarted Be Here Now artwork.
I mean, I get the collage thing but it should be more obvious or more brave, like the ones from DOYS. If it was only the landscape it'd be okay (although the logo should be white for better contrast), but is the woman what looks bad to me. The elements from DOYS had texture or something special but the woman seems to be taken straight from a stock image website.
Anyway is better than Chasing Yesterday and what really matters are the songs.
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Post by Didi on Sept 23, 2017 15:12:03 GMT -5
The artwork looks awful to me, it feels amateur and cheap, it reminds me of the discarted Be Here Now artwork. I mean, I get the collage thing but it should be more obvious or more brave, like the ones from DOYS. If it was only the landscape it'd be okay (although the logo should be white for better contrast), but is the woman what looks bad to me. The elements from DOYS had texture or something special but the woman seems to be taken straight from a stock image website. good to see, that I'm not the only one, who thinks this artwork was made by a 10 year boy or girl with photoshop - just embarrassing - hopefully the music will be better... |
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Post by bestwick8 on Sept 23, 2017 15:19:01 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Noel can't be arsed signing thousands of albums. And usually artists as big as him don't do that kind of stuff. A record store in Boston promoted that back in 2011. I bought two autographed copies online. It was later canceled saying Noel didn’t sign the shipments to their store or they were mistaken in that even happening . I was bummed. I did however get the signed BE back in 2013 from the Beady Eye website. I managed to get a signed BE as well. Plus a random signed photo of Noel during his first album era was randomly sent to me as a thank you for ordering all his shit. |
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Post by fabulousbakers on Sept 23, 2017 15:32:08 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Noel can't be arsed signing thousands of albums. And usually artists as big as him don't do that kind of stuff. A record store in Boston promoted that back in 2011. I bought two autographed copies online. It was later canceled saying Noel didn’t sign the shipments to their store or they were mistaken in that even happening . I was bummed. I did however get the signed BE back in 2013 from the Beady Eye website. Noel signed the Beady Eye album? Joking aside, since Noel and Liam both have albums out at the same time, fans meeting them over the next 12 months should all be asking Noel to sign copies of Liam's album and Liam to sign Noel's album. Let's start this trend, annoy both Gallaghers, and maybe get them some bizarre press coverage if this takes off. Anybody in? |
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Post by MacaRonic on Sept 23, 2017 16:29:11 GMT -5
Can't believe I missed all this. We're spoiled this year by the looks of it.
I absolutely LOVE the artwork. As someone has mentioned (matt, I believe) it's got a Sergio Leone movie/ cinematography vibe going on, with the wide sweeping landscape.
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Post by matt on Sept 23, 2017 19:24:34 GMT -5
A side note, but Mike Rowe is amazing. His contribution on MTV Unplugged is greater than Andy and Gem in the Oasis canon personally (he even plays on Be Here Now). And his keyboard playing sprinkles a bit of magic onto some of Noel's tunes.
Was delighted when he was announced in the High Flying Birds lineup back in June 2011, always wondered where he went after Be Here Now then reappeared after years in the wilderness seemingly!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2017 20:34:13 GMT -5
A side note, but Mike Rowe is amazing. His contribution on MTV Unplugged is greater than Andy and Gem in the Oasis canon personally (he even plays on Be Here Now). And his keyboard playing sprinkles a bit of magic onto some of Noel's tunes. Was delighted when he was announced in the High Flying Birds lineup back in June 2011, always wondered where he went after Be Here Now then reappeared after years in the wilderness seemingly! If you told me Oasis used a cardboard cut out of Andy on stage from 1999 to 2009 I’d believe you. |
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Sept 24, 2017 2:18:32 GMT -5
It looks like the album cover is inspired by Sergio Leone as others have already mentioned on here (Noel being a huge fan of Leone & Morricone). The image looks like the setting to Once Upon A Time in the West, arguably Leone's greatest Western.
And I like it. It is the nicest album cover I have seen since BHN, as this looks more like early Brian Cannon Oasis (I wonder if he did this one)?
Replace the NGHFB top right logo with Oasis, and you would believe we are back in 1997.
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Post by morning_rain on Sept 24, 2017 2:32:48 GMT -5
I wonder what happened with the artwork Brian Cannon was doing for NGHFB a couple of years ago.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 24, 2017 2:34:36 GMT -5
A side note, but Mike Rowe is amazing. His contribution on MTV Unplugged is greater than Andy and Gem in the Oasis canon personally (he even plays on Be Here Now). And his keyboard playing sprinkles a bit of magic onto some of Noel's tunes. Was delighted when he was announced in the High Flying Birds lineup back in June 2011, always wondered where he went after Be Here Now then reappeared after years in the wilderness seemingly! Agreed, he's an amazing keyboardist. He's played a lot with Sheryl Crow, that's why he "disappeared" for a few years  |
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