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Post by sledgehammer87 on Aug 17, 2017 18:35:37 GMT -5
Just read the comments...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 19:08:36 GMT -5
The arrangements are fine. His shitty American accent isn't.
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Post by Spaceman on Aug 17, 2017 19:15:19 GMT -5
I don't mind different versions but this is just shite tbh. Now I know what rkid meant with the Dolly Parton quip lmao
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Post by discworld on Aug 17, 2017 19:37:58 GMT -5
really good version. Youtube comments are not a reference. check the likes, it is a little bit more true representation of the opinions. Still nothing compared to the number of views.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 21:40:27 GMT -5
I love them. I've listened to that version of Champagne Supernova so many times. It's blissful. It's true that his annunciation is unconventional (my girlfriend asked if he had a lisp), but I can get past it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 21:48:33 GMT -5
I liked it in 2015, now it's coming near my for the Ryan Adams version of Wonderwall or (It's Good) To Be Free.
Do you know he actually sung 'It's Good To Be Me' at that secrect London show in early 2015.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 22:21:53 GMT -5
They are his songs and he can "arrange" them anyway he wants.
And by the way, the new Champagne Supernova is beautiful (as is the Ryan Adams-style Wonderwall and the slow, acoustic version of Don't Look Back in Anger).
And to all a good night...
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Post by mouth on Aug 18, 2017 0:52:51 GMT -5
it sucks. it takes everything away that that song stood for about 20 years ago. that's really music for housewives.
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Post by joladella on Aug 18, 2017 1:01:44 GMT -5
I did not care for esp champagne supernova, even hearing it live the first time. But hearing it live the second time, even in that arrangement, suddenly clicked and I finally started to appreciate that song, so he must do Sth right!
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 18, 2017 1:05:22 GMT -5
I don't mind Champagne Supernova that way and I think Wonderwall has also improved a lot since it's now more true to the original version. I really didn't like the Ryan Adams style and think it ruins everything the song makes so great.
I also don't care for that acoustic version of DLBIA. So slow, so boring. I'm fortunate to have heard both versions live though.
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Post by MacaRonic on Aug 18, 2017 1:56:48 GMT -5
Now I know what rkid meant with the Dolly Parton quip lmao The delivery of the line "You won't get very far" from the song 'Leave My Guitar Alone' sounds very Dolly Parton to me. Liam may of been referring to that. |
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Post by andrewmattcoles on Aug 18, 2017 2:08:18 GMT -5
Basically they're amazing arrangements and really exciting to hear for the first time. But they should be "one off" treats and surprises. More of them cycled around at different gigs.
The first time supersonic was played....amazing to hear....but then it became a bit stale.
I know we have been their with the whole "set list never changes"...but I think this simple one song slot variety would keep everyone satisfied. Wouldn't it be nice to go to a gig and get a little treat each time.
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Post by oasisserbia on Aug 18, 2017 2:33:23 GMT -5
Does he have some problem with his teeth or something? Shoomday you will find me.
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Post by freddy838 on Aug 18, 2017 2:36:12 GMT -5
Champagne Supernova is the only one I don't like. I think he butchers it. The rest of them I really enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 3:06:41 GMT -5
I think that sounds good. I don't really follow Noel's solo thing (just not my style of music) but still don't understand why the "hate".
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Post by Doc Lobster on Aug 18, 2017 3:30:45 GMT -5
Does he have some problem with his teeth or something? Shoomday you will find me.
I've been saying this since Chasing Yesterday was released. His teeth are shifting due to age and that's fucking up his diction (that's not an American accent by the way). It's a common problem for people around 50.
As for the arrangements, nothing wrong with rearranging songs to suit his current style. Dylan has been doing that since forever and I suspect he was the inspiration for the new Champagne Supernova. I love it and so did the audiences at the gigs I went to. Youtube comments are fortunately not a reflection of what most people think.
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Post by andymorris on Aug 18, 2017 4:20:54 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of this version.
Something is lost that song needs to be epic, not just a wonderwally ballad.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 6:34:31 GMT -5
At 2:30 when the dude comes on to sort out Noel's mic he doesn't even get a little nod of thanks. Says a lot.
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Post by carlober on Aug 18, 2017 6:46:47 GMT -5
Champagne Supernova and Supersonic, as they were originally recorded, are totally Liam songs, that's it.
One of the main reasons why they're so incredibly good on the record is because Liam's vocals are just insane on them, they were clearly written with Liam in mind. Only '90s Liam could do them justice. And Noel is perfectly aware of this, I believe.
That also explains why he doesn't sing Live Forever, for example. By changing the arrangements he avoids any useless comparison: they're different songs now and they convey different feelings. To be honest, a 50 years-old Noel trying to do his best Liam impression on a loud, rocking version of Champagne Supernova would be just wrong.
Personally, I really like Noel's arrangements of both Champagne Supernova and Supersonic. My only complaint is that he's played them so many times during the tours that they've become a bit stale.
You can add Sad Song and Listen Up tot he list, although he hasn't played those that much to be fair. And the new-ish version of Wonderwall, which still retains some things of the Ryan Adams version but it's a lot more similar to the album take, is excellent in my opinion.
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Post by noliamno on Aug 18, 2017 7:00:07 GMT -5
I laughed the first time I heard the "Dolly Pardon" comment from Liam because I thought after hearing this for the first time, "Noel's doing it almost like a country song." I think it's ok.
Should we expect Noel to record #4 in Nashville?
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Post by andymorris on Aug 18, 2017 7:18:51 GMT -5
At 2:30 when the dude comes on to sort out Noel's mic he doesn't even get a little nod of thanks. Says a lot. Thanx for what ? Not doing his job in the first place ?  Most artists dont thank their roadies when fixing things during the songs, that doesn't mean anything, just that they are fully focused on their performance. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 7:19:06 GMT -5
The most die-hard fans really can be the pickiest bastards on the planet.
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Post by Spaceman on Aug 18, 2017 7:21:26 GMT -5
Champagne Supernova and Supersonic, as they were originally recorded, are totally Liam songs, that's it. One of the main reasons why they're so incredibly good on the record is because Liam's vocals are just insane on them, they were clearly written with Liam in mind. Only '90s Liam could do them justice. And Noel is perfectly aware of this, I believe. That also explains why he doesn't sing Live Forever, for example. By changing the arrangements he avoids any useless comparison: they're different songs now and they convey different feelings. To be honest, a 50 years-old Noel trying to do his best Liam impression on a loud, rocking version of Champagne Supernova would be just wrong. Personally, I really like Noel's arrangements of both Champagne Supernova and Supersonic. My only complaint is that he's played them so many times during the tours that they've become a bit stale. You can add Sad Song and Listen Up tot he list, although he hasn't played those that much to be fair. And the new-ish version of Wonderwall, which still retains some things of the Ryan Adams version but it's a lot more similar to the album take, is excellent in my opinion. I get what you're saying and I would never want Noel trying to do a Liam impersonation as you said but I'm sure there's a middle ground between that and this version. With something as great as CS you don't need to try to re-invent the wheel I mean to each their own but the song is barely recognizble here to me |
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Post by My Big Name on Aug 18, 2017 7:26:20 GMT -5
The American accent is kind of annoying but this performance is nowhere near as bad as people are making it out to be.
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Post by carlober on Aug 18, 2017 7:42:39 GMT -5
Champagne Supernova and Supersonic, as they were originally recorded, are totally Liam songs, that's it. One of the main reasons why they're so incredibly good on the record is because Liam's vocals are just insane on them, they were clearly written with Liam in mind. Only '90s Liam could do them justice. And Noel is perfectly aware of this, I believe. That also explains why he doesn't sing Live Forever, for example. By changing the arrangements he avoids any useless comparison: they're different songs now and they convey different feelings. To be honest, a 50 years-old Noel trying to do his best Liam impression on a loud, rocking version of Champagne Supernova would be just wrong. Personally, I really like Noel's arrangements of both Champagne Supernova and Supersonic. My only complaint is that he's played them so many times during the tours that they've become a bit stale. You can add Sad Song and Listen Up tot he list, although he hasn't played those that much to be fair. And the new-ish version of Wonderwall, which still retains some things of the Ryan Adams version but it's a lot more similar to the album take, is excellent in my opinion. I get what you're saying and I would never want Noel trying to do a Liam impersonation as you said but I'm sure there's a middle ground between that and this version. With something as great as CS you don't need to try to re-invent the wheel I mean to each their own but the song is barely recognizble here to me It depends on where the "middle-ground" lies. Would it be a watered-down, lifeless version of the album take? If yes, then no thanks  I like Noel's acoustic version precisely because it's different. Radically different. He's made it his own. A rockier version would just pale in comparison with the original, in my opinion. |
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