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Post by beentherenow on Mar 29, 2017 22:45:39 GMT -5
I am bias being a huge Floyd fan but surely if the Verve is picked we have the most cliched opening ever!
Stone Roses, The Beatles, Oasis, The Verve?! :/
Plus History is 10 times the song TDDW is
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 30, 2017 5:05:02 GMT -5
This is gonna end up like an XFM compilation album, isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 6:09:56 GMT -5
I am bias being a huge Floyd fan but surely if the Verve is picked we have the most cliched opening ever! Stone Roses, The Beatles, Oasis, The Verve?! :/ ...and then either the la's or the smiths for track 5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 6:27:54 GMT -5
I have no problem with "The Drugs Don't Work" winning it. Will be an interesting head to head against Wish You Were Here.
As the rounds go, we'll have more surprises anyway.
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Post by funhouse on Mar 30, 2017 7:15:09 GMT -5
Can't wait for this duel! Hopefully Pink Floyd will come out of it as winners.
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Post by Manualex on Mar 30, 2017 7:20:43 GMT -5
I almost voted for Drugs dont work, then I changed my vote for Stairway to heaven.
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Post by funhouse on Mar 30, 2017 7:22:50 GMT -5
And I don't know if How Soon Is Now has been "officially" nominated yet? Well, here it goes then:
How Soon Is Now - The Smiths New Dawn Fades - Joy Division
Two happy songs to contrast the sadness of either Wish You Were Here or The Drugs Don't Work.
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Post by My Big Name on Mar 30, 2017 10:50:22 GMT -5
Really hard choice between these two but I think I'm gonna go with TDDW (which cancels out my nomination for track 5).
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Post by tatomoon on Mar 30, 2017 11:03:57 GMT -5
Wish You Were Here x10
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Post by beentherenow on Mar 30, 2017 11:30:16 GMT -5
This is a genuine question for the TDDW voters but what are you nominating for 8?
I mentioned above that I believe History to be the greatest Verve track and one of the greatest songs ever. I can't believe The Verve would be used by TDDW
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Post by matt on Mar 30, 2017 14:38:33 GMT -5
Hmm, turning into an NME writer's wet dream this....
To stop this from dragging, this tie break closes at 3am in the morning so that gives 6hrs approximately to vote (I know a lot of you are in the States so I thought midnight UK time would be a bit too short with only a few hours left anyway).
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Post by matt on Mar 30, 2017 14:45:29 GMT -5
This is gonna end up like an XFM compilation album, isn't it? The tracklist to Tim Lovejoy's Sunday Morning Sesh compilation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 14:48:52 GMT -5
Vote cast !
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Post by Manualex on Mar 30, 2017 14:49:31 GMT -5
I'd like to nominate You Love Us by the manics and Lithium by Nirvana
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Post by matt on Mar 30, 2017 14:51:07 GMT -5
I am bias being a huge Floyd fan but surely if the Verve is picked we have the most cliched opening ever! Stone Roses, The Beatles, Oasis, The Verve?! :/ Plus History is 10 times the song TDDW is I've always said I preferred The Verve as a full band as opposed to the solo tracks which Ashcroft contributed. Songs like History, Drug's Don't Work, Lucky Man - all dull, unimaginative, maudlin nonsense personally where one man's ego outstrips the concept of a band, and criminally undermining Nick McCabe.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 30, 2017 15:25:37 GMT -5
Nowhere else on the internet would you find this match up. Only one of these is an all time great.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 15:35:03 GMT -5
I am bias being a huge Floyd fan but surely if the Verve is picked we have the most cliched opening ever! Stone Roses, The Beatles, Oasis, The Verve?! :/ Plus History is 10 times the song TDDW is I've always said I preferred The Verve as a full band as opposed to the solo tracks which Ashcroft contributed. Songs like History, Drug's Don't Work, Lucky Man - all dull, unimaginative, maudlin nonsense personally where one man's ego outstrips the concept of a band, and criminally undermining Nick McCabe. I thought you loved The Drugs Don't Work or am I confounding ?
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Post by matt on Mar 30, 2017 15:58:13 GMT -5
I've always said I preferred The Verve as a full band as opposed to the solo tracks which Ashcroft contributed. Songs like History, Drug's Don't Work, Lucky Man - all dull, unimaginative, maudlin nonsense personally where one man's ego outstrips the concept of a band, and criminally undermining Nick McCabe. I thought you loved The Drugs Don't Work or am I confounding ? Ach it's not the worst, but is insignificant compared to their best songs like Bittersweet Symphony, Rolling People, Come On - I much prefer the heavier edge to The Verve. The compromise between Richard solo and the full band tracks you see on A Northern Soul and Urban Hymns stops them from being truly great albums for me - as a whole, their debut is far more consistent and cohesive.
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Post by glider on Mar 30, 2017 16:22:48 GMT -5
Would much prefer a 'A Storm In Heaven' track to represent the Verve. In all likelihood based on the majority of casual fans on here it will probably Drugs or Lucky Man.
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Post by carlober on Mar 30, 2017 16:27:11 GMT -5
Would much prefer a 'A Storm In Heaven' track to represent the Verve. In all likelihood based on the majority of casual fans on here it will probably Drugs or Lucky Man. ASIH is a monster of an album. The Sun the Sea narrowly missed my 2 nominations for track 5, but Blue might have good chances of being nominated for track 8
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Mar 30, 2017 16:30:09 GMT -5
'The Drugs Don't Work' shouldn't win. First of all, the drugs do work; secondly, it's not that great of a song.
Thanks.
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Post by glider on Mar 30, 2017 16:30:28 GMT -5
I am bias being a huge Floyd fan but surely if the Verve is picked we have the most cliched opening ever! Stone Roses, The Beatles, Oasis, The Verve?! :/ Plus History is 10 times the song TDDW is I've always said I preferred The Verve as a full band as opposed to the solo tracks which Ashcroft contributed. Songs like History, Drug's Don't Work, Lucky Man - all dull, unimaginative, maudlin nonsense personally where one man's ego outstrips the concept of a band, and criminally undermining Nick McCabe. You know my stance on the Verve but gonna have to disagree on your opinion of those three tracks. History's lyricism is well done, but isn't their greatest song because it lacks the psychedelic edge of what truly represents the Verve - Nick helped bring this to life on live renditions both in '97-98 and '07-08. Drugs Don't Work and Lucky Man aren't as lyrically powerful as History or On Your Own but are taken to another level with the band and Nick's soundscapes - elevates them from good to great. Ashcroft's songwriting nosedived after Urban Hymns - that's when the dull and repetitive love ballads littered with melodramatic overrated string arrangements had no depth or backbone to them. Without The Verve, Richard is nothing.
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Post by glider on Mar 30, 2017 16:31:40 GMT -5
Would much prefer a 'A Storm In Heaven' track to represent the Verve. In all likelihood based on the majority of casual fans on here it will probably Drugs or Lucky Man. ASIH is a monster of an album. The Sun the Sea narrowly missed my 2 nominations for track 5, but Blue might have good chances of being nominated for track 8 Butterfly is my poised favorite. Not a snowball's chance in hell it will win but it's one heck of a song.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 16:51:30 GMT -5
I thought you loved The Drugs Don't Work or am I confounding ? Ach it's not the worst, but is insignificant compared to their best songs like Bittersweet Symphony, Rolling People, Come On - I much prefer the heavier edge to The Verve. The compromise between Richard solo and the full band tracks you see on A Northern Soul and Urban Hymns stops them from being truly great albums for me - as a whole, their debut is far more consistent and cohesive. I like the first three albums a lot, but I do think Ashcroft's ballads on Urban Hymns are his songwriting peak. However, and that can sounds contradictory, I do think these ballads are his main weakness. After more than 15 years doing the same formula over and over and mixing it with awful mainstream, these UH singles might sound a bit, as you said, dull. But there's a big difference between the rehearsh and the originals. The Drugs Don't Work and Sonnet are two simple ballads that both own a gorgeous melancholy and a great melody. Things that all his solo work is deprived. I also love songs Slide Away or On Your Own that are maybe rawer but own great melodies aswell. I do agree that Nick McCabe is a very underrated guitarist though. One of the best of his generation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 17:35:12 GMT -5
i'm going to be honest.... i listened to the drugs don't work on youtube last night and was completely underwhelmed.
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