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Post by spaneli on Mar 1, 2017 12:56:06 GMT -5
Noel sounds better when he's going for a more modern approach. - In The Heat of The Moment - Ballad of The Mighty I - You Know We Can't Go Back - Lock All The Doors - While The Song Remains The Same Wait! Lock All The Doors is modern?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 1, 2017 13:13:16 GMT -5
Noel sounds better when he's going for a more modern approach. - In The Heat of The Moment - Ballad of The Mighty I - You Know We Can't Go Back - Lock All The Doors - While The Song Remains The Same Wait! Lock All The Doors is modern? Modernish in delivery. Noel could have dad rocked it.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 1, 2017 13:15:36 GMT -5
Wait! Lock All The Doors is modern? Modernish in delivery. Noel could have dad rocked it. Ehhhhh. I think he did dad rock it....
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 1, 2017 13:16:51 GMT -5
Modernish in delivery. Noel could have dad rocked it. Ehhhhh. I think he did dad rock it.... It has a youthful exuberance in it that many Noel songs don't have since 1997.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 13:32:26 GMT -5
Riverman The Dying of The Light While The Song Remains The Same The Right Stuff You Know We Can't Go Back
These are the only songs I still listen to, sometimes. I particularly do like the last three tunes I've cited. Lock All The Doors is alright, TGWXRE is meh, and I hate the other three tunes.
I think we've overrated it a bit. It's still solid though and not a lot of people release solid albums these days.
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Post by matt on Mar 1, 2017 14:54:59 GMT -5
The only bonafide excellent tunes in my opinion are Riverman, Dying of the Light, Song Remains, and Right Stuff.
He really needs to surprise us with the next one, I can't be doing with constant Lidl versions of Definitely Maybe songs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 14:55:25 GMT -5
The Ballad Of The Mighty I Massacre happened, i was there to witness it. ALTERNATIVE FACTS!'Worst' is just subjective opinion. Not really facts at all. You could do a poll or something, but 99% chance is that Ballad of the Mighty I and Chasing Yesterday would massacre (Probably) All In the Mind and Heathen Chemistry respectively if done on this forum. One of youse could try it, but I think it'd be a bit of a waste of a thread.
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Post by glider on Mar 1, 2017 15:11:16 GMT -5
Ehhhhh. I think he did dad rock it.... It has a youthful exuberance in it that many Noel songs don't have since 1997. Sounds like it could've been on Heathen Chemistry.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 1, 2017 15:11:18 GMT -5
The only bonafide excellent tunes in my opinion are Riverman, Dying of the Light, Song Remains, and Right Stuff. He really needs to surprise us with the next one, I can't be doing with constant Lidl versions of Definitely Maybe songs. I would include ballad of the mighty I on this list too. Though most artists would be happy to release a 10 song album and have 5 be excellent.
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Post by matt on Mar 1, 2017 15:14:04 GMT -5
The only bonafide excellent tunes in my opinion are Riverman, Dying of the Light, Song Remains, and Right Stuff. He really needs to surprise us with the next one, I can't be doing with constant Lidl versions of Definitely Maybe songs. I would include ballad of the mighty I on this list too. Though most artists would be happy to release a 10 song album and have 5 be excellent. I like Ballad, not as much as the other ones but I like it.
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Post by glider on Mar 1, 2017 15:14:57 GMT -5
Said this before but probably the best thing about this album for me is that 30 second intro on 'While The Song Remains the Same'. Most progressive sounding recorded audio from Noel in over 15 years.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 1, 2017 15:15:46 GMT -5
It has a youthful exuberance in it that many Noel songs don't have since 1997. Sounds like it could've been on Heathen Chemistry. Problem with Lock All The Doors is that it sounds so thin. The guitars sound so thin. That song should be heavy with lush multi layered guitars. Honeslty, it might sound amazing with a restrained Be Here Now treatment. Also, the tempo is a tad too slow, probably by a couple beats.
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Post by glider on Mar 1, 2017 15:18:30 GMT -5
Sounds like it could've been on Heathen Chemistry. Problem with Lock All The Doors is that it sounds so thin. The guitars sound so solo. That song should be heavy with lush multi layered guitars. Honeslty, it might sound amazing with a restrained Be Here Now treatment. Also, the tempo is a tad too slow, probably by a couple beats. It just doesn't seem to fit in this era as a song. Noel's vocals doesn't deliver the fierce approach the melody desires, while Liam's 1994-1997 vocals would. Sounds out of place.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 1, 2017 15:21:21 GMT -5
Problem with Lock All The Doors is that it sounds so thin. The guitars sound so solo. That song should be heavy with lush multi layered guitars. Honeslty, it might sound amazing with a restrained Be Here Now treatment. Also, the tempo is a tad too slow, probably by a couple beats. It just doesn't seem to fit in this era as a song. Noel's vocals doesn't deliver the fierce approach the melody desires, while Liam's 1994-1997 vocals would. Sounds out of place. Yea, it's one song on Chasing Yesterday that Liam would absolutely nail. With Liam on vocals it most likely would have been a couple beats faster. I think Noel wanted more clarity in the guitars for his vocals, but it completely takes the edge from the song. Makes it into dad rock trying to cover a teenager song.
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Post by wozdareden on Mar 2, 2017 12:38:36 GMT -5
Best NG solo stuff : Alone On The Rope A Simple Game Of Genius While The Song Remains The Same The Death Of You And Me The Right Stuff
I deeply hate his modern attempts like ITHOTM, WAL & BOTMI. Riverman, The Dying Of The Light, Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks are good stuff as well. I also like the Broken Arrow & If I Had A Gun demo. And Everybody's On The Run.
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 2, 2017 15:49:51 GMT -5
I think What a Life and Ballad of the Mighty I are his two best solo songs so far...
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Post by headshrinker84 on Mar 2, 2017 16:09:53 GMT -5
Worst Noel Gallagher album to me. That doesnt mean it's not good, i like it but the songs are way less good than his past offerings. Also prefer some bsides to albums tracks although Freaky Teeth was kinda missed in the studio. And there The Ballad Of The Mighty I which is a shame for a songwriter like Noel. Worst song he's ever done, cringeworthy with all the cliches a songwriter can put into a song.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 2, 2017 18:00:04 GMT -5
Worst Noel Gallagher album to me. That doesnt mean it's not good, i like it but the songs are way less good than his past offerings. Also prefer some bsides to albums tracks although Freaky Teeth was kinda missed in the studio. And there The Ballad Of The Mighty I which is a shame for a songwriter like Noel. Worst song he's ever done, cringeworthy with all the cliches a songwriter can put into a song. Ballad Of The Mighty I is superior to 90% of the post 1990s oasis output. It's a killer track however I don't think it works well live.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 18:15:07 GMT -5
I think Ballad of the Mighty I is with Little by Little and Wonderwall the song the that divide the Oasis fanbase the most. You love or hate it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 18:30:08 GMT -5
I think Ballad of the Mighty I is with Little by Little and Wonderwall the song the that divide the Oasis fanbase the most. You love or hate it. Except that Wonderwall is a fucking pop masterpiece and the majority of the fanbase does love it. But you're right, BOTMI is like a modern version of Little By Little. They don't sound alike at all but both have a forced chorus and a shit guitar sound.Nowadays, Noel is so much better when he doesn't try to write a single type tune (Alone On The Rope, While The Song...). Those introspective tunes fit his voice way more too.
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 2, 2017 18:53:05 GMT -5
A Liam-sung BOTMI should have followed on from Teotihuacan on the kind of experimental album Oasis should have been making instead of Heathen Chemistry / Don't Believe the Truth.
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 2, 2017 18:58:02 GMT -5
Just revisited some CY tracks myself, and I must say - what a fucking gorgeous tune The Dying of the Light is. Beautiful.
Still a really, really good album for me.
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Post by godgimmesoul on Mar 2, 2017 19:00:37 GMT -5
Great album. Much better than the debut album. And many many light years better than DOYS.
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Post by aky on Mar 2, 2017 19:47:31 GMT -5
alls noel has to do is plug the electric guitar in, turn the amp up to 11, decent bass guitar, overdub his little melodic lead guitar parts, get a decent powerhouse drummer and youve got the best oasis-related album since morning glory. The songs are already there, its not that hard.
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Post by matt on Mar 2, 2017 20:10:41 GMT -5
I think Ballad of the Mighty I is with Little by Little and Wonderwall the song the that divide the Oasis fanbase the most. You love or hate it. Wonderwall divides fans?! First I've heard - it's not mentioned much on here compared to other great tracks, but mainly because what has been said about it has been said by everyone. For us hardcores, it might not be our favourite Oasis song, instead preferring the songs that exemplify the overall ethos of the band better, but I don't think there's anyone on here who'd doubt it's a great song.
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