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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 14, 2017 18:28:10 GMT -5
The " Times are hard when things have got no meaning..." verse is the best one!!
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 14, 2017 18:29:04 GMT -5
il have them please if you would be so kind and take the time to share,,thanks mate I have no idea where to upload them, with all the copyrights and shit, I tried soundcloud but it was taken down. Someone has an idea where to share it? Youtube? try sendspace its free to join and use for file under 300mb www.sendspace.comyou can login with facebook google or twittter
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jan 15, 2017 11:52:27 GMT -5
Greatest album ever made lol. Having trouble understanding that someone has different tastes to you by any chance....? If so, maybe you should keep away from forums.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 16:54:38 GMT -5
Making it an EP would be a good start Unfortunately This could be said of pretty much every Oasis album after BHN...
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Post by Morgan on Feb 4, 2017 3:49:52 GMT -5
My apologies in case this is not the right place but... I am looking for the Tom Peilow's Be Here Now edit. I can't find it on soulseek nor Emule/Torrent and all the webs links are broken. Please, please, please could anybody help me? Thanks! PS: I am doing my "own" Be Here Now... naked!! or something, so I really need some Peilow shortened versions....
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Post by mimmihopps on Feb 4, 2017 4:55:24 GMT -5
My apologies in case this is not the right place but... I am looking for the Tom Peilow's Be Here Now edit. I can't find it on soulseek nor Emule/Torrent and all the webs links are broken. Please, please, please could anybody help me? Thanks! PS: I am doing my "own" Be Here Now... naked!! or something, so I really need some Peilow shortened versions.... That's the one Feck (Tom) created more than 10 years ago, but unfortunately he is no longer active on this forum. and even if it's still available, we can't upload it on here as it's a complete official album in edited version. Sorry that we can't help you out, but hope you understand. Cheers.
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Post by Morgan on Feb 4, 2017 5:56:37 GMT -5
Thanks for asnwering me, mimmihopps.
Well, since I can't found Tom Peilow edit my Be Here Now... naked! is this way:
01 - D' you know what I mean? (NG rethink 2016) 7:23
02 - Stay young (remastered 2016) 5:08
03 - Stand by me (remastered 2016) 5:55
04 - Going nowhere (remastered 2016) 4:41
05 - I hope, I think, I know (remastered 2016) 4:22
06 - The girl in the dirty shirt (remastered 2016) 5:49
07 - Fade in out (remastered 2016) 6:51
08 - Don't go away (remastered 2016) 4:48
09 - Be here now (remastered 2016) 5;12
10 - All around the world (feckarse medley to reprisal) 7:00
Around 56 minutes against the 71 minutes of the original.
I am not sure if the order has to be Stand by me / Going Nowhere / I hope... or Stand by me / I hope... / Going Nowhere.
Anyway, great stuff from the band circa 1997.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Feb 4, 2017 7:15:03 GMT -5
BHN is perfect as it is.
Like McCartney once said about the White album, when people complain its too long. `Its the Beatles White album. It sold. Shut up!'
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 5, 2017 9:46:27 GMT -5
If you're shortening the album, then you have no understanding of Be Here Now.
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Post by underneaththesky on Feb 5, 2017 12:53:20 GMT -5
PLAYPEN
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Post by Morgan on Feb 6, 2017 8:05:23 GMT -5
If you're shortening the album, then you have no understanding of Be Here Now. Well, let's see: - Overproduced songs: All songs. - Too noisy: Almost all of them. - Too long: Almost all of them. - Wrong inclusion: Some of them. 19 years later, I think I have got it There's a great album inside of Be Here Now, but the album was disappointing and a failure in the band's career. Bad decisions taken by Noel, nothing more. It's very easy to improve the album. Very, very easy. So it's what I'm trying to do. And it's what I have done. I respect all your opinions, but I can't live without listening more than 7 minutes of "It's gettin better man" again.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Feb 6, 2017 13:35:29 GMT -5
If you're shortening the album, then you have no understanding of Be Here Now. Well, let's see: - Overproduced songs: All songs. - Too noisy: Almost all of them. - Too long: Almost all of them. - Wrong inclusion: Some of them. 19 years later, I think I have got it There's a great album inside of Be Here Now, but the album was disappointing and a failure in the band's career. Bad decisions taken by Noel, nothing more. It's very easy to improve the album. Very, very easy. So it's what I'm trying to do. And it's what I have done. I respect all your opinions, but I can't live without listening more than 7 minutes of "It's gettin better man" again. - Overproduced songs: All songs. Yes, and boy don't they sound great!- Too noisy: Almost all of them. Yes, and if you don't like noise, it makes me wonder why you like Oasis at all- Too long: Almost all of them. Yes, that what makes the album so fantastic. Wrong inclusion: Some of them. This I agree with. I don't care for TGITDS or Fade In/Out. But you could also say this of any Oasis album anyway.There's a great album inside of Be Here Now, but the album was disappointing and a failure in the band's career. Depends on how you measure failure. Just about every review gave it 5 stars at the time, it broke records in its first week, and it raked in the cash.Bad decisions taken by Noel, nothing more. This has happened throughout his career. Nothing usual there.It's very easy to improve the album. Only by bringing in some of the B sides.I respect all your opinions, but I can't live without listening more than 7 minutes of "It's gettin better man" again. The last part of that song is the best part for me, and one of the highlights of the album. Having that edited would make no sense to me at all.
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Post by Morgan on Feb 7, 2017 3:13:40 GMT -5
Hi AdidasNG72 I don't really care for the early critics nor the sales. In my own opinion, "Be Here Now" was a artistical downfall in respect to the two previous albums. It was the first time Oasis did not come out a great album. And it was the beginning of the decadence of the band. Don't get me wrong. I think the band is still interesting in "Be Here Now" and "Standing on the Shoulder of Giants". However, it is clear that its best moment had gone. Indeed, it was clear at the moment "Be Here Now" came out. This years (1997-2000) the band produced a lot of good songs, but not as much as they do in its first years. So, leaving out some b sides of the albums was a serious problem. Before that (1994-1995) Oasis was so good that they could deal easily with leaving out great songs of the albums and putting them as b sides, because almost all its stuff was very good. Here, leaving out "Stay young" and "Going nowhere" damages the album hugely. The same with "Let's all make believe" and "Full on" in the next album. In the other hand, the production of "Be Here Now" was a major failure. Honestly, there's no bad song in "Be Here Now". But putting loads of guitar walls and extend ridiculously a song that never had to be more than a fine four or five minutes song it's not the best way to make it. I could handle to it if they did not done the same in almost every song of the album. "D'You know what I mean?" has been really improved by Noel himself. Rethink 2016 version is far better than the 1997 version. "Magic pie" should not have been in the album. "Going Nowhere" should be the chosen one. Better in all levels. "My big mouth" sounds really horrible. Good song, no doubt about it but the production is very bad. I think there's a live version where you can listen to a piano and it's better than the album version by miles, where you can't hear nothing but white noise. "Stand by me" has a lot of guitar walls and could be improved, but nothing serious here. "I hope, I think, I know" is brilliant, but I think it could be better with less noise, as well as "Stay you" could be (a song that should have been in). "The girl in the dirty shirt", "Fade in out", "Don't go away" and "Be Here Now" are fine just as they are. "It's gettin' better man" it's too noisy and long. A seven minutes song where nothing interesting occurs. "All around the world" could be a classic... if it was three minutes shorter. In the other hand, I can't see the point in liking noise to liking Oasis. There's a lot of Oasis songs well produced with no noise nor similar. Also, they made some brilliant noisy songs, as "Columbia". The thing is that... "My big mouth" or "It's gettin' better man" are not "Columbia". Well, I think that "Be Here Now" could be fantastic. They had songs enough to make another five stars album. But... they did not make it. And the album sounded date on the second life week. But, we have the songs, it is very easy to improve.
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 27, 2019 17:56:59 GMT -5
I found a 30 something minute one on youtube under the channel 'Be Here Now Shortened '. If it was supposed to be long, why have both Liam and Noel complained about how long it is. Noel has even called it shit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 19:01:20 GMT -5
Hipsters
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 27, 2019 20:04:13 GMT -5
This is my current Be Here Now:
1. D'You Know What I Mean (Edit) 2. My Big Mouth 3. The Masterplan 4. Stand By Me (Edit) 5. I Hope, I Think, I Know 6. The Girl in the Dirty Shirt (Edit) 7. Going Nowhere 8. Fade In/Out (Edit) 9. Don't Go Away 10. Stay Young (Edit) 11. All Around the World (Edit) 12. It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) [Edit] 13. All Around the World (Reprise)
Clocks in at 70 minutes. Only two minutes shorter than the original, but the problem was never the length of the album of as a whole; crucially, the average song length has been reduced from six minutes to just over five. Might not seem like much, but it effectively means there's fifty seconds less "checking your watch time" in every song.
If anyone knows where I could find some bass stems for the album (recorded by fans or something), I'd love to know. It'd be great to dub them into tracks like My Big Mouth and Better (Man!!). Thanks.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 27, 2019 21:09:16 GMT -5
Shortening BHN, would be like shortening my cock - why the fuck would you do that?
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 27, 2019 21:40:35 GMT -5
I get bored after 40 minutes of an album, with notable exceptions(The White Album). Unfortunately, the album isn't good enough to sell the length.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Nov 28, 2019 1:05:07 GMT -5
I found a 30 something minute one on youtube under the channel 'Be Here Now Shortened '. If it was supposed to be long, why have both Liam and Noel complained about how long it is. Noel has even called it shit. sounds like an argument from authority? if noel thinks its shit, it must be shit? do you take all your musical appreciation from noel? its subjective, and from my point of view, its a great album...as is. my favorite of all actually. has been since the day it was released.
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Post by Flashbax on Nov 28, 2019 6:39:49 GMT -5
Noel thought it was a good idea to put drums on If I Had a Gun..., he shouldn't be allowed to give his opinion on music.
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Post by freddy838 on Nov 28, 2019 7:40:30 GMT -5
I just wish Noel could have been arsed to do his rethink to the whole album when the remaster came out.
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 28, 2019 10:19:23 GMT -5
I found a 30 something minute one on youtube under the channel 'Be Here Now Shortened '. If it was supposed to be long, why have both Liam and Noel complained about how long it is. Noel has even called it shit. sounds like an argument from authority? if noel thinks its shit, it must be shit? do you take all your musical appreciation from noel? its subjective, and from my point of view, its a great album...as is. my favorite of all actually. has been since the day it was released.
Uh, no. Taking things out of context again. Sounds like an admission that you have no ground to stand on. Why do I like Heathen Chemistry(which Liam and Noel have both criticized)? It's to long, and the tunes are shit. Simple as that. Like I said, it's not good enough to justify the length.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 28, 2019 10:48:29 GMT -5
I never had a problem with the original times. In 1997 what was I rushing to get to next?
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Post by sgtpeppr on Nov 30, 2019 23:12:05 GMT -5
sounds like an argument from authority? if noel thinks its shit, it must be shit? do you take all your musical appreciation from noel? its subjective, and from my point of view, its a great album...as is. my favorite of all actually. has been since the day it was released.
Uh, no. Taking things out of context again. Sounds like an admission that you have no ground to stand on. Why do I like Heathen Chemistry(which Liam and Noel have both criticized)? It's to long, and the tunes are shit. Simple as that. Like I said, it's not good enough to justify the length. again?
plus, i wasnt taking it out of context? you used noel's opinion of the album to bolster your opinion. thats classic argument from authority...i even said it 'sounds like', to give you an opening to explain how maybe it wasnt.
my ground is as firm as anyones, because the 'ground' is my personal opinion. exactly the same as you.
i will say again, that its SUBJECTIVE...which was my main point really. so you saying 'the tunes are shit. simple as that.' doesnt make it true.
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 30, 2019 23:23:08 GMT -5
So the whole point of this argument was just to make passive aggressive remarks and remind me that opinions are subjective? Could've just skimmed through the second grade again.
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