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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 23, 2016 15:26:32 GMT -5
He's also said he planned for EOTR, Stranded on the wrong beach, Dream On and..ehm..something else I can't remember (Broken Arrow perhaps?) to be on the next Oasis album had they not split up. From the amount of nerves he initially showed when he first performed solo, I imagine the thought of being a solo artist daunted him rather than spurred him on. Hence the creation of 'The High Flying Birds'. Yes. He's said plenty of times he prefers being on the side, instead of being on the front. It took quite some time before he looked comfortable. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 15:26:39 GMT -5
Between this thread and people accusing a website admin of blocking the release of the BHN remaster, I'd say some of you have a bit too much time on your hands. I should know, we can smell our own  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 17:01:00 GMT -5
it seems to me that their relationship took a dive around that DBTT time, probably shouldve parted ways after that long tour, going straight back in the studio for DOYS probably wasnt the best idea, Liam clearly wasnt that committed to it to go off and get married in the middle of it but I agree that at that stage in oasis they didnt need to prove anything like a new band would to their record label, they couldve easily taken as much time as they needed to get it done so to me it could say that Noel wasnt all that bothered, the DOYS tour on the whole was mostly shite because of their apparent boredem with the whole thing. Noel said he didnt plan going solo but I have a different opinion tbh, I cant of seen Noel carrying on with oasis after that whole cycle. I think it was going well until after the Brits. They had their small fights on the DBTT tour, but they're brothers, so naturally that's going to happen. I think the post-Brits thing was more serious since Noel basically told Liam to get his voice together or be done, and when you combine that with being stuck in a studio together for about three months working on an album & Liam bailing on the sessions, to get married, it brews into something very nasty. I can't remember the quote exactly but during wembley 2000 I seem to remember Noel making a jab at Liam about someone "who could sing" or something and Liam sort of turned around and gave him that "want a fight?" look, Noel hasnt said much about Liams voice besides maybe 3 occassions I can think of and one of those was jonathan ross and he kind of refused to say anything besides "you need to ask him" but behind the scenes I think Noel probably pissed Liam off about it on many occassions, he wasnt shy about slamming tony etc so I wouldnt be surprised if Noel and Liam clashed about his voice over the years |
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Post by carlober on Jan 23, 2016 17:20:03 GMT -5
Here's an idea for the next thread.
Did Noel sabotage Heathen Chemistry?
Because it fucking sucks.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 23, 2016 21:00:52 GMT -5
What is it that drives conspiracies? Is it that people find the real story too "boring" that they have to come up with some ludicrous amount of drivel?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 23, 2016 21:02:19 GMT -5
people accusing a website admin of blocking the release of the BHN remaster Wait, that happened? Link me.... |
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 23, 2016 21:33:42 GMT -5
Yeah, Noel made some coments about Liam's voice on that Brit Awards in 2007, Liam of course didn't like it, that was the beggining of the end, before that they were on good terms since 2001.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 2:35:10 GMT -5
people accusing a website admin of blocking the release of the BHN remaster Wait, that happened? Link me.... Someone essentially blamed the dude who runs the official Oasis site for blocking the BHN release, which apparently they have the power to do. Pretty ludicrous, ngl |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 24, 2016 7:20:43 GMT -5
Here's an idea for the next thread. Did Noel sabotage Heathen Chemistry?Because it fucking sucks. Noel loves that album. He would say no. I would say yes. Mainly by producing it himself. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 7:43:41 GMT -5
Here's an idea for the next thread. Did Noel sabotage Heathen Chemistry?Because it fucking sucks. Noel loves that album. He would say no. I would say yes. Mainly by producing it himself. 'The band' produced it. |
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Post by spud on Jan 24, 2016 18:33:38 GMT -5
Yeah, Noel made some coments about Liam's voice on that Brit Awards in 2007, Liam of course didn't like it, that was the beggining of the end, before that they were on good terms since 2001. That was just a tabloid story. Probably didn't happen. |
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 24, 2016 22:22:14 GMT -5
Yeah, Noel made some coments about Liam's voice on that Brit Awards in 2007, Liam of course didn't like it, that was the beggining of the end, before that they were on good terms since 2001. That was just a tabloid story. Probably didn't happen. Knowing them, probably did. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 24, 2016 22:30:14 GMT -5
Here's an idea for the next thread. Did Noel sabotage Heathen Chemistry?Because it fucking sucks. Yeah....... Heathen Chemistry was a real WHAT THE FUCK moment. Sure the singles helped mask the problems but come on Noel. What is happening here? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 24, 2016 22:31:20 GMT -5
Here's an idea for the next thread. Did Noel sabotage Heathen Chemistry?Because it fucking sucks. Noel loves that album. He would say no. I would say yes. Mainly by producing it himself. Almost 14 years later Noel is probably the only person who "truly" loves that album.  |
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Post by idleroses on Jan 25, 2016 4:21:36 GMT -5
Sabotage NO
Lazy? oh YES!!!
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 25, 2016 8:00:08 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure if he wanted to sabotage the album, he'd have left Falling Down off it. I just don't think anyone in the band cared enough at this point to give the album the work necessary to make it as good as it could have been. They got it to the point where it was a decent latter day Oasis album and that was good enough for them I think.
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Post by spud on Jan 25, 2016 8:29:47 GMT -5
If you play Falling Down in reverse it sounds like 'the mighty I is king, you're all shiiiiitttttt'
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jan 25, 2016 18:31:33 GMT -5
Noel loves that album. He would say no. I would say yes. Mainly by producing it himself. 'The band' produced it. That would be Noel with Gem Archer then, like they did with Proud Mary a little earlier in that era. "The Glimmer Twins" is Mick Jagger and Keith Richards pseudonym for production work, I'm assuming Noel wanted one but couldn't think of one he liked so plumped for "The Band"   |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 0:44:50 GMT -5
It's an interesting theory, but if it's true, why in the WORLD would he put "(get off your) High Horse Lady" on the album ? That's one of his own worst songs ! haha
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 3, 2016 3:46:26 GMT -5
There are people that like high horse lady, cause it was sth. I dare to say a bit out of Noels comfort zone.
So many people complaining about the gallaghers being not brave enough to come up with weird songs, but when they do, these songs are called worst^^
It has a great groove, interesting instrumentation, a nice built up from the start to the end and its that type of song that does not really need a chorus, which sould never be a kind of duty for a song by the way.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Feb 3, 2016 4:07:25 GMT -5
When you look at some of the songs that emerged after DOYS on both Beady Eye and HFB's that were around during the making of that last, utter shite album, it does make you wonder what the hell was going on.
If you compare Abbey Road, Beatles farewell album, particularly side B's brilliant, breathtaking final run of songs, from Golden Slumbers to The End, and then look at the final run of songs on DOYS, its depressing to see how Oasis ended their final album. Soldier On! What a song to end their career on, and the garbage that followed before it.
Whether Noel purposely sabotaged that last album because he wanted out, saving his best stuff for his solo career that was already planned in his mind, or whether he hadn't thought that far ahead, and couldn't get the songs he wanted on the last album because Liam wasn't around, or didn't want to sing them (which we are often led to believe by Noel), we'll never know.
Either way, its a sad album to end their career on. Even Let it Be was a better closer for The Beatles than this garbage.
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 3, 2016 10:15:39 GMT -5
DOYS is pretty good. Great for the first five tracks, really good for the first eight and pretty good overall. As we all know, it could have been a hell of a lot better. It could have been worse though, they could have ended on DBTT...
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 3, 2016 14:02:28 GMT -5
I still think that if they'd switched TNOR for Boy with the Blues (and only that change, mind), the album would've been that much better.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 3, 2016 14:11:01 GMT -5
After Let's all make believe, The boy with the blues must be the most overrated song on this forum. That or Flick Of The-oooh horns, how daring-Finger.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 3, 2016 14:31:36 GMT -5
After Let's all make believe, The boy with the blues must be the most overrated song on this forum. That or Flick Of The-oooh horns, how daring-Finger. Ha... Love those two so much. |
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