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Post by spud on Jan 21, 2016 19:25:35 GMT -5
There's a theory that he deliberately picked the other band members' worst contributions in order to throw his efforts into sharp relief and plant the idea in the minds of Oasis fans that he's better off going it alone. The album comes out - everyone laments the second half of it, Noel fucks off a year later.
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Post by carryusall on Jan 21, 2016 19:27:16 GMT -5
Yes
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Jan 21, 2016 19:32:49 GMT -5
Yep.
It's a piss poor effort all around anyway.
How could the mighty Oasis release such a boring album?
Falling Down and I'm Outta Time (although don't even really like THAT too much, can't understand why everyone bangs on about it like it's a classic: it isn't) are probably the only tracks I'd consider listening to again from the album.
The rest can fuck it, ain't got time to be pissin' about listening to bullshit.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 21, 2016 19:35:59 GMT -5
I don't think Noel sabotaged it but he did properly fuck up an extremely strong beginning to the album.
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Post by carryusall on Jan 21, 2016 19:36:28 GMT -5
Can we post our alternate DOYS tracklistings yet?
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Jan 21, 2016 19:37:32 GMT -5
Can we post our alternate DOYS tracklistings yet? No, it's boring and tedious beyond all imaginable comprehension. |
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Post by charlsforevah on Jan 21, 2016 19:46:05 GMT -5
Yes. It's not that crazy. Noel had wanted a solo career for many years, and that is reflected with part of DOYS. Also, I read some days ago that Andy in an interview said that Noel lied about what happened when oasis split up (you know, that Liam broke Noel's guitar)... due to the fact, again, he wanted a solo career. Well that's what I think  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 21, 2016 19:59:36 GMT -5
Can we post our alternate DOYS tracklistings yet? Don't tempt me! |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 21, 2016 20:40:34 GMT -5
Forget DOYS.
The real question is: did Noel sabotage Heathen Chemistry?
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Post by glider on Jan 21, 2016 20:47:06 GMT -5
He confirmed this during the Reddit AMA.While we're at it... 1) Bag It Up 2) The Turning 3) Waiting for the Rapture 4) The Shock of the Lightning 5) I'm Outta Time 6) (I Wanna Live In A Dream) In My Record Machine 7) Falling Down 8) To Be Where There's Life (Richard Fearless Mix) 9) Stop The Clocks (Liam/Noel duet) 10) The Boy With the Blues 11) Soldier On
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 21, 2016 21:24:02 GMT -5
The thing is that Noel wanted to save some songs for himself
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 21, 2016 21:39:20 GMT -5
No. This is the most idiotic conspiracy theory I've ever heard. And it doesn't even add up:
Why didn't Noel keep for himself: The Importance of Being Idle, Part of the Queue, Falling Down, etc? Right, because there's no conspiracy. Stop it.
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Post by breakingmad on Jan 21, 2016 21:45:09 GMT -5
He was tired of make rocknroll songs...that's all...leave the resto of the band do it, pero...they never did it.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 21, 2016 22:21:00 GMT -5
It's undoubtedly very odd that Record Machine didn't get recorded, and the astronomical difference in quality between the first and second side of the album, is indeed very odd, but I doubt it myself. He'd have to be an absolute pillock to do something like that.
And let's not forget, Noel "Space Jazz" Gallagher is very aware of his reputation -- Be Here Now was slagged off, so he went for a completely different approach with SOTSOG, stripping away the copious guitar overdubs and the feckless Morris in one fell swoop; then when that received lukewarm reviews, he decided to do all the producing himself for Heathen Chemistry; when that record was shit and he, quite rightfully got slagged off for it, he worked with DIV and then Sardy to try and revitalise them, and so on...
After all that, why would he then purposefully make a crap record, just when it seemed the general public were warming to them again?
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 21, 2016 22:40:30 GMT -5
Can we post our alternate DOYS tracklistings yet? 1. Bag It Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting For The Rapture 4. The Shock Of The Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. I Believe In All 7. To Be Where There's Life 8. Falling Down 9. The Boy With The Blues 10. Soldier On Still a drop in quality after the first 5, and maybe Boy With The Blues and Soldier On put together might drag a bit, but overall, I think this would've been a decent effort, and certainly a much more complete piece of work than anything else they did in the 2000s. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 21, 2016 22:44:32 GMT -5
Noel's fucked up track-listings since the very beginning of Oasis, really. DOYS isn't an exception. I guess Noel started sabotaging Oasis since 1994 then? No. Again, please stop.
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Post by World71R on Jan 21, 2016 22:59:05 GMT -5
Can we post our alternate DOYS tracklistings yet? 1. Bag it Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting for the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. Come on Outside 7. Falling Down 8. To Be Where There's Life (Richard Fearless Production) 9. I Believe in All 10. Boy With the Blues Not a single weak track on what would probably be the band's third best album. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 21, 2016 23:19:16 GMT -5
Can we post our alternate DOYS tracklistings yet? 1. Bag it Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting for the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. Come on Outside 7. Falling Down 8. To Be Where There's Life (Richard Fearless Production) 9. I Believe in All 10. Boy With the Blues Not a single weak track on what would probably be the band's third best album. Record Machine deserves a punt in there (switched places with TBWTL. And I'd add STC as an extra track. Absolutely perfect:1. Bag It Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting For the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. Come On Outside 7. Falling Down 8. Record Machine 9. To Be Where There's Life (Richard Fearless) 10. Boy With The Blues 11. Stop The Clocks |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 22, 2016 0:08:49 GMT -5
Record Machine and Stop The Clocks are both fucking boring anyway.
And since Noel used the same producer on HFB, I doubt it would have sounded a lot different. And don't tell me it would "at least have had Liam's vocals which would make it more listenable"
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 22, 2016 0:09:21 GMT -5
Can we post our alternate DOYS tracklistings yet? NOOOOOO!!!(!!!) |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 22, 2016 0:38:45 GMT -5
Record Machine and Stop The Clocks are both fucking boring anyway. And since Noel used the same producer on HFB, I doubt it would have sounded a lot different. And don't tell me it would "at least have had Liam's vocals which would make it more listenable" You do know there's *apparently* an 8 minute long, Liam sung, guitar-solo laden, Champagne Supernova-esqe version of Record Machine, right? Ok. Good. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 22, 2016 1:11:58 GMT -5
Record Machine and Stop The Clocks are both fucking boring anyway. And since Noel used the same producer on HFB, I doubt it would have sounded a lot different. And don't tell me it would "at least have had Liam's vocals which would make it more listenable" You do know there's *apparently* an 8 minute long, Liam sung, guitar-solo laden, Champagne Supernova-esqe version of Record Machine, right? Ok. Good. You don't really think that would have ended up on DOYS, right? Ok. Good. |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 22, 2016 1:51:19 GMT -5
Record Machine and Stop The Clocks are both fucking boring anyway. And since Noel used the same producer on HFB, I doubt it would have sounded a lot different. And don't tell me it would "at least have had Liam's vocals which would make it more listenable" You do know there's *apparently* an 8 minute long, Liam sung, guitar-solo laden, Champagne Supernova-esqe version of Record Machine, right? Ok. Good. The more I hear this brought up the more I think Noel pulled this out of his arse. I mean, seriously? If it's that good then he should've realised that it deserved a place on the record, Liam vocals or not. Though Noel has made the most absurd decisions in the past, it seems so implausible to the point that I can't believe that he would leave it off. RM's boastful triumph wouldn't fit on DOYS anyway. Maybe that's why he left it off. Come to think of it, even Revolution Song is very cathartic, and maybe that's why Noel left it off of SOTSOG, instead of it being "too similar to Tender"? Hmm, I think I'm sensing a pattern.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 2:49:43 GMT -5
Dig Out Your Soul is fine the way it is.
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Post by andrewmattcoles on Jan 22, 2016 3:31:21 GMT -5
Record Machine and Stop The Clocks are both fucking boring anyway. And since Noel used the same producer on HFB, I doubt it would have sounded a lot different. And don't tell me it would "at least have had Liam's vocals which would make it more listenable" Yep. Can't stand either of them. RM is bearable live...but dire on the album |
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