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Post by guigsysEstring on Dec 9, 2016 6:41:42 GMT -5
Just wrote something about Ashcroft's current style of stage presence and how I like more relaxed and subtle performances. Never was a fan of the huge "yeah I'm the frontman" persona. I understand it's done to spice up the gig, but I'm just there for the music! The experience revolves around how great the tunes are live and their audible presence, with stage presence as a nice little additive that I can do without. If you watch videos of My Bloody Valentine gigs, all they are doing is staying still and playing the tunes. The experience of those shows rely on the ferocity and presence the songs give out themselves, which I find is more exciting than any gig where Chris Martin jumping around the stage could give me. I love MBV as well but that stage persona of Belinda and Kevin had as much to do with the former's shyness and the latter's paranoia as much as anything- Debbie was still fairly animated clawing and ripping at her bass guitar strings  I think it depends on the band to be honest, Richard Ashcroft in the early Verve days especially suited the shamanic frontman which incidentally was part of what got Dave Boyd to sign them after seeing Richard during an early London gig at the Fulham Greyhound pub- Independent 1998 or Kings Head Pub if you believe Billboard- Billboard 1993 via GoogleChris Martin I take your point because Coldplay for me are not an intensive band, and no matter how much one throws themselves around a stage it isn't going to make 'Yellow' a more intense experience. Again I think it depends on the artist and material but some bands simply are not suited by one or both reasons to such a physical presence. |
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Post by glider on Dec 9, 2016 18:40:31 GMT -5
Just wrote something about Ashcroft's current style of stage presence and how I like more relaxed and subtle performances. Never was a fan of the huge "yeah I'm the frontman" persona. I understand it's done to spice up the gig, but I'm just there for the music! The experience revolves around how great the tunes are live and their audible presence, with stage presence as a nice little additive that I can do without. If you watch videos of My Bloody Valentine gigs, all they are doing is staying still and playing the tunes. The experience of those shows rely on the ferocity and presence the songs give out themselves, which I find is more exciting than any gig where Chris Martin jumping around the stage could give me. I love MBV as well but that stage persona of Belinda and Kevin had as much to do with the former's shyness and the latter's paranoia as much as anything- Debbie was still fairly animated clawing and ripping at her bass guitar strings I think it depends on the band to be honest, Richard Ashcroft in the early Verve days especially suited the shamanic frontman which incidentally was part of what got Dave Boyd to sign them after seeing Richard during an early London gig at the Fulham Greyhound pub- Independent 1998 or Kings Head Pub if you believe Billboard- Billboard 1993 via GoogleChris Martin I take your point because Coldplay for me are not an intensive band, and no matter how much one throws themselves around a stage it isn't going to make 'Yellow' a more intense experience. Again I think it depends on the artist and material but some bands simply are not suited by one or both reasons to such a physical presence. Another thing I didn't point out is when frontmen or members are actively in tune to their performance. I'd suggest this is early Verve Richard's case - sure some of it was exaggeration but alot of the power driving the music flowed through him, even if the drugs were talking  . I enjoy seeing them react to the music in that fashion which shows that there's a sort of spiritual experience that comes from hearing the songs live. But let's say the gig has a barely reactive audience, and you're jumping and dancing around the stage to a song that doesn't demand such livelessness - you'll look silly. |
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Post by sufuking perbley on Dec 18, 2016 11:45:14 GMT -5
 I am, as people would say, FUCKING SHOOK because I had no idea NGHFB peaked at 10 in croatian charts?  ? Why did I only hear it one time on the fucking radio then, few days before the gig in August? I am feeling so weird right now. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 16:43:23 GMT -5
I am, as people would say, FUCKING SHOOK because I had no idea NGHFB peaked at 10 in croatian charts? ? Why did I only hear it one time on the fucking radio then, few days before the gig in August? I am feeling so weird right now. At least it was somewhere in the charts. Here it's all so fuckin' biased that I can't help but yawn looking at the list  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 8:39:16 GMT -5
Had a bit of a road trip this weekend... actually put on a physical CD (HFB1) in the car...
This album is class all the way. Not a bad track on it. I know it gets panned for Sardy production and the like, but it really is a great record. Certainly more even overall than anything post-97 by Oasis.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 8:45:14 GMT -5
Had a bit of a road trip this weekend... actually put on a physical CD (HFB1) in the car... This album is class all the way. Not a bad track on it. I know it gets panned for Sardy production and the like, but it really is a great record. Certainly more even overall than anything post-97 by Oasis. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I prefer it above Chasng Yesterday. I don't know why. |
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Dec 19, 2016 14:34:13 GMT -5
Had a bit of a road trip this weekend... actually put on a physical CD (HFB1) in the car... This album is class all the way. Not a bad track on it. I know it gets panned for Sardy production and the like, but it really is a great record. Certainly more even overall than anything post-97 by Oasis. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I prefer it above Chasng Yesterday. I don't know why. CS is better produced, but NGHFB is probably his best batch of songs since 1997 |
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Post by Gas Panic on Dec 19, 2016 14:49:50 GMT -5
I prefer it above Chasng Yesterday. I don't know why. CS is better produced, but NGHFB is probably his best batch of songs since 1997 I think Chasing Yesterday overall actually is the better batch of songs. Although weirdly I prefer the first album. The quality of the songs across both albums is truly brilliant. At this rate by album #3 Noel will have released more 'classic' tracks in his solo career than he did across all four post 90s Oasis albums. Roll on album #3! |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 19, 2016 15:45:22 GMT -5
I like them both equally. CY has better production, but I think HFB1 has more songs that I prefer. Not that I don't like songs such as The Right Stuff, but I hardly ever find myself listening to them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 15:49:47 GMT -5
I think HFB feels higher quality and generally has grander feel to it, whereas CY feels abit more rough and ready.
Im not sure why tbh but I prefer HFB even though CY is more fun.
the only reason I honestly think though that HFB is his strongest album since BHN is because hes simply writing every song on the album, as Ive said many times before, had Noel really wanted to revive oasis, he shouldve gone back to writing every song on the album, let LAG deal with the b sides to take pressure off but its quite clear from his comments that he simply didnt care and LAGS involvement meant less work for him.
anyhow its not like it wouldve been any harder for him to that over what hes doing now, hes still having to write every song, the only difference is Liam wouldve been singing on some of them.
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Dec 19, 2016 15:55:22 GMT -5
CS is better produced, but NGHFB is probably his best batch of songs since 1997 I think Chasing Yesterday overall actually is the better batch of songs. Although weirdly I prefer the first album. The quality of the songs across both albums is truly brilliant. At this rate by album #3 Noel will have released more 'classic' tracks in his solo career than he did across all four post 90s Oasis albums. Roll on album #3! I really like both albums, but I have the feeling that the supossedly big songs in CY (Riverman, Dying of the light, Mighty I), while being good, failed a bit commercially and live. By comparison, What a life, Everibody is in the run or If I had a gun have became modern classics already. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 8:32:23 GMT -5
I defy anyone who says 'Stop The Clocks' is crap.
Sure... it's not at the top of the pile with Live forever or Champagne Supernova, but it's far from crap. And the orgasmic ending is really well placed on the record.
Carry on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 8:18:55 GMT -5
I defy anyone who says 'Stop The Clocks' is crap. Sure... it's not at the top of the pile with Live forever or Champagne Supernova, but it's far from crap. And the orgasmic ending is really well placed on the record. Carry on. I like it, maybe because I never heard Noel talk about it like the new Wonderwall since 2002. |
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Post by ariananana on Dec 22, 2016 6:52:25 GMT -5
CY over HFB for me, however if he took Alone On The Rope and Simple Game of Genius and stuck them onto CY...... I would definitely consider top three album of all time.... for me!
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Post by ariananana on Dec 22, 2016 6:54:22 GMT -5
I defy anyone who says 'Stop The Clocks' is crap. Sure... it's not at the top of the pile with Live forever or Champagne Supernova, but it's far from crap. And the orgasmic ending is really well placed on the record. Carry on. I can't get into it.... it's like Little James' slightly better looking brother, but not by much. |
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Post by The Escapist on Dec 23, 2016 9:35:42 GMT -5
Just listened to The Dying of the Light and I must say - what a wonderful song that is. Gorgeous.
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Post by carlober on Dec 23, 2016 9:48:24 GMT -5
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Post by mimmihopps on Dec 23, 2016 10:06:54 GMT -5
Just listened to The Dying of the Light and I must say - what a wonderful song that is. Gorgeous. I dedicated this song to my dearest mum. Chasing Yesterday came out a couple of days later after my mum passed away last year. I listened to this song every night, again and again alone. It's not a sad song, but truly beautiful. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 17:21:24 GMT -5
the start of this remix of ITHOTM with the marching drumbeat behind sounds lush, shame the actual remix is shit
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 29, 2016 5:48:17 GMT -5
The Mexican has swagger despite dumb lyrics.
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Post by carlober on Dec 29, 2016 6:23:48 GMT -5
Last night I was testing the audio interface (a device that allows you to plug your guitar into a pc) that I got me for Christmas when I found myself strumming the chords to Let the Lord Shine a Light on Me. Which is a fantastic track, by the way. Here's a very improvised short clip. Basically my very first rough home-made recording  https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/300035836 |
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Post by Rolo on Dec 29, 2016 8:09:05 GMT -5
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Post by carlober on Jan 5, 2017 15:08:17 GMT -5
Big news! Noel's got a new coat  Twitter pic: |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 5, 2017 15:27:36 GMT -5
Big news! Noel's got a new coat Twitter pic: Noel growing into age extremely well. His fashion sense has gotten much better  |
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 5, 2017 16:51:56 GMT -5
Nice shoes, Noel. I love guys with nice shoes.
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. I enjoy seeing them react to the music in that fashion which shows that there's a sort of spiritual experience that comes from hearing the songs live. But let's say the gig has a barely reactive audience, and you're jumping and dancing around the stage to a song that doesn't demand such livelessness - you'll look silly. 
? Why did I only hear it one time on the fucking radio then, few days before the gig in August? I am feeling so weird right now.
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