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Post by gemarcher1 on Nov 21, 2016 18:02:21 GMT -5
The Mexican live kickin ass!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 22:02:27 GMT -5
I'm totally fine with Talk Tonight, Sad Song, Fade Away, Whatever, Spaceman and other songs as long as it's Noel on his own without the band. Just like 1994/1995. That was really great.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 23, 2016 6:21:51 GMT -5
The Mexican live kickin ass! Preach!  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 23, 2016 6:24:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Dream On is brilliant, but yes, it's a nice bright song. I prefer Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks (in this kind of Kinks-y song) though. Better melody, better lyrics, better vocals. The songs I can't stand from NGHFB are What A Life and Stop The Clocks. I'm not a fan of Broken Arrow and Record Machine aswell. I like the rest (though IIHAG and EOTR are a bit borderline). I've always liked "Dream On" and I find Jesus Freaks extremely underrated. Perhaps a better title would change the perspective. Kinda like....."The Mexican". Shit title, good tune. I can't stand the HFB version of "Stop The Clocks". That mellotron intro sounds so fucking cheesy and artificial. I"m generally not impressed with any version of that song really. Perhaps the decade plus hype killed the song long before we ever heard it. I will admit that the guitar solo at the end does kick ass. More of that Noel. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 23, 2016 7:31:39 GMT -5
If I want to listen to Kinks-y songs, then no thanks, I'll just listen to the Kinks themselves. I don't really understand this logic. It'd be a bit like saying, "Well if I want to listen to songs written by Noel Gallagher, I'll just listen to some Oasis." Seems a bit close-minded, y'know? Personally, I love Soldier Boys And Jesus Freaks. Yes, it's quite obviously Kinks-inspired, but it is also, unmistakably, a Noel Gallagher-penned song. It's got that instantly hummable chorus that all great Noel songs have, and it comes to a close with one last run-through of the first chorus, which he seems to do a lot these days... Great song. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 8:37:46 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Dream On is brilliant, but yes, it's a nice bright song. I prefer Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks (in this kind of Kinks-y song) though. Better melody, better lyrics, better vocals. The songs I can't stand from NGHFB are What A Life and Stop The Clocks. I'm not a fan of Broken Arrow and Record Machine aswell. I like the rest (though IIHAG and EOTR are a bit borderline). I've always liked "Dream On" and I find Jesus Freaks extremely underrated. Perhaps a better title would change the perspective. Kinda like....."The Mexican". Shit title, good tune. I can't stand the HFB version of "Stop The Clocks". That mellotron intro sounds so fucking cheesy and artificial. I"m generally not impressed with any version of that song really. Perhaps the decade plus hype killed the song long before we ever heard it. I will admit that the guitar solo at the end does kick ass. More of that Noel. Jesus Freaks has always seemed like an American song to me. And Noel has said as much. Our culture relates to the lyrics of that tune more than the British it would appear. I like it as well. As for that STC solo... Noel didn't even play that solo, so....  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 23, 2016 9:35:46 GMT -5
If I want to listen to Kinks-y songs, then no thanks, I'll just listen to the Kinks themselves. I don't really understand this logic. It'd be a bit like saying, "Well if I want to listen to songs written by Noel Gallagher, I'll just listen to some Oasis." Seems a bit close-minded, y'know? Personally, I love Soldier Boys And Jesus Freaks. Yes, it's quite obviously Kinks-inspired, but it is also, unmistakably, a Noel Gallagher-penned song. It's got that instantly hummable chorus that all great Noel songs have, and it comes to a close with one last run-through of the first chorus, which he seems to do a lot these days... Great song. Yeah I'm so close minded. Extremely. I don't mind the song. It's just not that I like it because it sounds like the Kinks. I am perfectly aware of Noel being derivative (I'm not stupid nor deaf), but I don't listen to Noel or Oasis to hear "Kinks-y songs" or "Beatles-y songs". Does this even make sense? I don't know and am not going to put further thought into it. Doesn't suit my close-mindedness. |
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Post by Manualex on Nov 23, 2016 9:43:30 GMT -5
I don't really understand this logic. It'd be a bit like saying, "Well if I want to listen to songs written by Noel Gallagher, I'll just listen to some Oasis." Seems a bit close-minded, y'know? Personally, I love Soldier Boys And Jesus Freaks. Yes, it's quite obviously Kinks-inspired, but it is also, unmistakably, a Noel Gallagher-penned song. It's got that instantly hummable chorus that all great Noel songs have, and it comes to a close with one last run-through of the first chorus, which he seems to do a lot these days... Great song. Yeah I'm so close minded. Extremely. I don't mind the song. It's just not that I like it because it sounds like the Kinks. I am perfectly aware of Noel being derivative (I'm not stupid nor deaf), but I don't listen to Noel or Oasis to hear "Kinks-y songs" or "Beatles-y songs". Does this even make sense? I don't know and am not going to put further thought into it. Doesn't suit my close-mindedness. Well, it beats me mama, I just want to rock N roll |
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Post by tatomoon on Nov 28, 2016 5:55:36 GMT -5
It really annoys me when Noel justifies the HFB by saying his own name is 'hardly Ziggy Stardust', as if that's the sort of image he's going for anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2016 16:01:49 GMT -5
If Noel had any balls he would have included 'Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me' on HFB.
Just had a listen after a long hiatus... great tune. Atmospheric wonder. Cinematic like Everybody's On The Run.
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Post by carlober on Nov 28, 2016 16:40:23 GMT -5
If Noel had any balls he would have included 'Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me' on HFB. Just had a listen after a long hiatus... great tune. Atmospheric wonder. Cinematic like Everybody's On The Run. Magnificent track. Love the mood of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 7:41:02 GMT -5
Songs Noel shouldn't play on his next tour:
Sad Song
Spaceman
Listen Up
Digsy's Dinner
Talk Tonight
If he continues with playing these songs they will be treated like (It's Good) To Be Free. Especially Sad Song and Talk Tonight.
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Post by Jim on Dec 5, 2016 8:18:07 GMT -5
Songs Noel shouldn't play on his next tour: Sad Song Spaceman Listen Up Digsy's Dinner Talk Tonight If he continues with playing these songs they will be treated like (It's Good) To Be Free. Especially Sad Song and Talk Tonight. I'd like to think after his third album he would only play 1 or 2 of Oasis songs maximum. He will have around 40 solo songs by that point. We know Don't Look Back In Anger will always be played but Do the Damage, Wrong Beach, Freaky Teeth, etc should never have been dropped for so many Oasis songs over the course of the Chasing Yesterday tour. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 8:37:05 GMT -5
Songs Noel shouldn't play on his next tour: Sad Song Spaceman Listen Up Digsy's Dinner Talk Tonight If he continues with playing these songs they will be treated like (It's Good) To Be Free. Especially Sad Song and Talk Tonight. I'd like to think after his third album he would only play 1 or 2 of Oasis songs maximum. He will have around 40 solo songs by that point. We know Don't Look Back In Anger will always be played but Do the Damage, Wrong Beach, Freaky Teeth, etc should never have been dropped for so many Oasis songs over the course of the Chasing Yesterday tour. People want to hear Oasis songs, I think that if Noel didn't play Oasis songs it would have 'failed' like Beady Eye. I expect on his next tour with a 3rd album of 10 songs: 5 songs of NGHFB3, 3 CY, 2 NGHFB and 10 Oasis songs. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 8:40:40 GMT -5
I'd like to think after his third album he would only play 1 or 2 of Oasis songs maximum. He will have around 40 solo songs by that point. We know Don't Look Back In Anger will always be played but Do the Damage, Wrong Beach, Freaky Teeth, etc should never have been dropped for so many Oasis songs over the course of the Chasing Yesterday tour. People want to hear Oasis songs, I think that if Noel didn't play Oasis songs it would have 'failed' like Beady Eye. I expect on his next tour with a 3rd album of 10 songs: 5 songs of NGHFB3, 3 CY, 2 NGHFB and 10 Oasis songs. He should drop the album, then play one massive show that is live streamed world wide. No tour. |
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Post by Jim on Dec 5, 2016 9:33:34 GMT -5
I'd like to think after his third album he would only play 1 or 2 of Oasis songs maximum. He will have around 40 solo songs by that point. We know Don't Look Back In Anger will always be played but Do the Damage, Wrong Beach, Freaky Teeth, etc should never have been dropped for so many Oasis songs over the course of the Chasing Yesterday tour. People want to hear Oasis songs, I think that if Noel didn't play Oasis songs it would have 'failed' like Beady Eye. I expect on his next tour with a 3rd album of 10 songs: 5 songs of NGHFB3, 3 CY, 2 NGHFB and 10 Oasis songs. Sadly, I agree with you. Noel should have more confidence in his solo output rather than rely on the Oasis catalogue. And that went for Beady Eye and goes for whatever Liam plans to do in the future. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 10:44:40 GMT -5
I don't think it's about confidence. As good as the NGHFB material is, the Oasis songs are most people's favorite parts of the gigs. Noel's never been one to be willfully perverse.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Dec 8, 2016 14:07:25 GMT -5
Here is a list of the weakest things about NG's solo career so far :
- Drumming (arrangements as general, also sometimes dull instrumentation and save sound production, especially on the first album )
- Videos ( horrible, apart from TBOMI )
- Logo (Like really ? That's the best one they got ? What was the inspiration behind it, The Flinstones ? )
- Merchandise
- Live band ( They look together like Bilbo Baggins's brigade leaving Shire or something)
- Interviews (became so boring and predictible since he went solo )
- His stage presence as a frontman and the singer of the band ( i know it's not his role and all, but really )
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 8, 2016 15:38:29 GMT -5
Although the above post made me laugh (because I find it funny, not ridiculous or anything), I disagree on the last two points.
Interviews predictable? Yes, but that's what happens when interviewers keep on asking the same shit. Otherwise I still find Noel a pretty funny guy and enjoy his interviews.
Frontman? Well, no, he wasn't cut out to be one, but I think he has improved a lot. From barely saying anything at all to joking with the crowd is a good step forward.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Dec 8, 2016 16:07:15 GMT -5
Although the above post made me laugh (because I find it funny, not ridiculous or anything), I disagree on the last two points. Interviews predictable? Yes, but that's what happens when interviewers keep on asking the same shit. Otherwise I still find Noel a pretty funny guy and enjoy his interviews. Frontman? Well, no, he wasn't cut out to be one, but I think he has improved a lot. From barely saying anything at all to joking with the crowd is a good step forward. Actually i've been to 2 of his gigs and i think his contact with the audience is really good, one of the best i've ever seen in live concert, so i don't really mean that. I mean his mike stand, and psysical behaviour on stage more than anything else. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 16:38:56 GMT -5
yea videos are the shits tbh, BOTMI is top though, still dont understand not bothering to create any video at all for dying of the light however lazy, whats the point in even bothering releasing a single if your not going to do the one thing that you can market across social media and youtube etc?
I can get that it was late on in the cycle but why bother releasing it all in that case.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 19:04:56 GMT -5
yea videos are the shits tbh, BOTMI is top though, still dont understand not bothering to create any video at all for dying of the light however lazy, whats the point in even bothering releasing a single if your not going to do the one thing that you can market across social media and youtube etc? I can get that it was late on in the cycle but why bother releasing it all in that case. I think Lock All the Doors and The Dying of the Light were weird singles. Lock All the Doors was released just after his last festival concert in August 2015. Then he had a break until December where he played a few acoustic gigs. Then The Dying of the Light after those gigs when his first concert was in March 2016. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 19:29:51 GMT -5
yea videos are the shits tbh, BOTMI is top though, still dont understand not bothering to create any video at all for dying of the light however lazy, whats the point in even bothering releasing a single if your not going to do the one thing that you can market across social media and youtube etc? I can get that it was late on in the cycle but why bother releasing it all in that case. I think Lock All the Doors and The Dying of the Light were weird singles. Lock All the Doors was released just after his last festival concert in August 2015. Then he had a break until December where he played a few acoustic gigs. Then The Dying of the Light after those gigs when his first concert was in March 2016. see thats another thing, he didnt play a single track off chasing yesterday during those acoustic gig, dying of the light was basically ready to go for those gigs and it was the new single but nothing. |
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Post by glider on Dec 8, 2016 19:36:54 GMT -5
Just wrote something about Ashcroft's current style of stage presence and how I like more relaxed and subtle performances. Never was a fan of the huge "yeah I'm the frontman" persona. I understand it's done to spice up the gig, but I'm just there for the music! The experience revolves around how great the tunes are live and their audible presence, with stage presence as a nice little additive that I can do without. If you watch videos of My Bloody Valentine gigs, all they are doing is staying still and playing the tunes. The experience of those shows rely on the ferocity and presence the songs give out themselves, which I find is more exciting than any gig where Chris Martin jumping around the stage could give me.
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Post by arthurmorgan on Dec 9, 2016 5:02:53 GMT -5
yea videos are the shits tbh, BOTMI is top though, still dont understand not bothering to create any video at all for dying of the light however lazy, whats the point in even bothering releasing a single if your not going to do the one thing that you can market across social media and youtube etc? I can get that it was late on in the cycle but why bother releasing it all in that case. I guess people just don't care about music videos enough anymore. They're used to streaming music and listening to it in the background. You might aswell share a cheap lyric video on social media instead of having to waste a lot of money on shooting a video for a song that probably won't do that well anyway |
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