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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 10:54:01 GMT -5
He played AOTR once and the crowd was dead during it so he dropped it. Shame as I'd love to hear it in person. What's dissappointing is that he is clearly so affected by the crowds approval. He shouldnt give a shit what the crowd thinks and should play what makes him happy.He pretends to not give a shit about public approval but he clearly does, which is the exact reason we never got the AA album. I wish noel was more like Neil Young sometimes and didn't give a toss what the public think. I realize that Noel is a made man in the cash department at this point, but as a musician his livelyhood depends on the crowds. No artist wants to alienate the crowd. Additionally, a dead crowd is a bore to play to. The only people who care if he switches up the set list are die-hards and that makes up a small part of the overall crowd. Especially outside of the UK. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 10:59:28 GMT -5
He seriously needs to change up his setlist. Same old stuff every gig. I know he has to cater to the mainstream and casual Oasis fans, but come on, how about 'Idlers Dream', 'Alone On The Rope' or even an acoustic 'Fade In/Out'? He played AOTR once and the crowd was dead during it so he dropped it. Shame as I'd love to hear it in person. this was the case for shout it out loud as well. id link the interview but I cant find it now but he said theres only 11 people going mental for it while everyone else stands there looking confused, he believes people come to hear the hits so thats what he gives them. I cant argue with him really, its just easier and makes for a better atmosphere to keep the crowd engaged than to have a song that feels like a stall in the setlist, must feel abit awkward to be playing a song while looking out at crowd of people that arnt into it. |
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Post by Derrick on Nov 11, 2016 15:09:23 GMT -5
Yes, well, purportedly seeking crowd approval didn't stop him from playing "D'yer wanna be a spaceman?" repeatedly during the last tour, even though he joked himself that "People were thinking: is that a new song?".
FYI he did actually play "Idler's dream" (not often, granted, but to quite sizeable crowds, not intimate gigs):
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 8:09:08 GMT -5
Alone on the Rope is his own fault that nobody knows that song.
But I don't believe that: Sad Song, Spaceman, To Be Free are rare songs too.
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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 12, 2016 8:30:56 GMT -5
Alone on the Rope is his own fault that nobody knows that song. But I don't believe that: Sad Song, Spaceman, To Be Free are rare songs too. IGTBF isn't 'rare'. Any self respecting oasis fan that owns the masterplan will know it. He also opened with it in is solo shows for a decade. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 9:25:02 GMT -5
Yes, well, purportedly seeking crowd approval didn't stop him from playing "D'yer wanna be a spaceman?" repeatedly during the last tour, even though he joked himself that "People were thinking: is that a new song?". FYI he did actually play "Idler's dream" (not often, granted, but to quite sizeable crowds, not intimate gigs):seem to remember him saying some fan reminded him about it and he went and listened to it again and decided to put it in the setlist but also said it completely tanked with the crowd so didnt really play it again. I believe Noel always makes the wrong choices for "obscure songs" as they are mostly slow and are from post 2000 oasis, had he played rockin chair or something else of that nature, its a upbeat enough of a song to get the crowd into it even if they dont know it that well. |
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Post by noliamno on Nov 14, 2016 10:31:34 GMT -5
He played AOTR once and the crowd was dead during it so he dropped it. Shame as I'd love to hear it in person. He pretends to not give a shit about public approval but he clearly does, which is the exact reason we never got the AA album. I wish noel was more like Neil Young sometimes and didn't give a toss what the public think. So, which is it? Should he change up the set list because that would get this forum's approval, or should he keep playing the same set list because that makes him happy? No matter what he does, he's criticized. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 11:31:43 GMT -5
What's dissappointing is that he is clearly so affected by the crowds approval. He shouldnt give a shit what the crowd thinks and should play what makes him happy.He pretends to not give a shit about public approval but he clearly does, which is the exact reason we never got the AA album. I wish noel was more like Neil Young sometimes and didn't give a toss what the public think. So, which is it? Should he change up the set list because that would get this forum's approval, or should he keep playing the same set list because that makes him happy? No matter what he does, he's criticized. well the two dont have to mutually exclusive, he could be happy playing fade in out and we would also be happy. theres nothing to say that him playing the same setlist is what makes him happy, he clearly wanted to play those more unknown tracks but the crowd wasnt playing ball enough for him to justify keeping it in, people are paying to come see him so maybe he feels that he shouldnt be playing things they dont want to hear. its more work to get the band together playing a song like idlers dream they havnt done before when he could play whatever for the 1000x time and get a better reaction. |
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Post by Derrick on Nov 14, 2016 14:44:29 GMT -5
people are paying to come see him so maybe he feels that he shouldnt be playing things they dont want to hear. I remember a quote from Noel about choosing which songs to play at gigs: asked about some "forgotten song" (sadly I don't remembered which one they were talking about), he said this was indeed a good song & he had thought about including it in the setlist, but on second thoughts decided the average guy in the crowd would prefer to hear "Cigarettes & alcohol" than this lesser-known track, as good as it was. I was really disappointed to read that because that's why Oasis played the same greatest hits setlist tour after tour since 2000. They're good songs indeed but, contrary to what Noel thinks, many fans like me would rather hear great Oasis songs that became rarities since the band never played them any more, instead of getting "Cigarettes & alcohol", "Acquiesce" or "Don't look back in anger" for the umpteenth time. It's a shame that Noel only thinks about the average gig-goer when he makes his setlists, when he should also throw in something for the real fans who bought all the albums & singles. Plus he had no qualms about not playing "Wonderwall" during the "Heathen chemistry" tour, even though that's the anthem all average gig-goers wanted to hear when they bought their tickets for the gigs. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 15, 2016 21:45:04 GMT -5
NGHFB needs more Oasis. God bless.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 16, 2016 3:56:25 GMT -5
He seriously needs to change up his setlist. Same old stuff every gig. I know he has to cater to the mainstream and casual Oasis fans, but come on, how about 'Idlers Dream', 'Alone On The Rope' or even an acoustic 'Fade In/Out'? He's played 2 of those theee songs. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 16, 2016 4:35:35 GMT -5
Don't complain about the setlist if you're not even aware of what he did and didn't play.
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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 16, 2016 4:45:21 GMT -5
Don't complain about the setlist if you're not even aware of what he did and didn't play. To be fair to these people Noel has created a situation where his setlists are so boring that I don't blame even huge NG fans for not following the tours. Why bother? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 5:18:45 GMT -5
If Oasis played only greatest hits tour since 2000 then I'm Liam.
SOTSOG:
Go Let It Out
Who Feels Love?
Gas Panic!
They played these songs a lot with at the start of the tour Where Did It All Go Wrong? and Sunday Morning Call. It probably didn't help that Noel left. Put Yer Money, Little James and Roll It Over wouldn't be possible live.
Tour of Brotherly Love / 10 Years of Noise & Confusion were sort of greatest hits tours.
HC:
The Hindu Times
Force of Nature
Hung in a Bad Place
Stop Crying Your Heart Out
Little by Little
Born on a Different Cloud
Better Man
My Generation
They only could have played Songbird too from that album because I think we all agree All in the Mind shouldn't even be an Oasis song. Maybe they could have played Shout It Out Loud.
They didn't play Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova (only a few times) in 2002, which imo are 2 of the 3 biggest Oasis hits.
DBTT:
Turn up the Sun
Mucky Fingers
Lyla
The Importance of Being Idle
The Meaning of Soul
(Guess God Thinks I'm Abel)
A Bell Will Ring
I think Keep the Dream Alive would've been a great live song but I doubt Liam could do it. Let There Be Love would have been really boring to hear live (strange single choice if you never play it live, although it was #1). I don't think any of the b-sides would have worked live.
Stop the Clocks tour was a greatest hits tour.
DOYS:
Waiting for the Rapture
The Shock of the Lightning
I'm Outta Time
Falling Down
To Be Where There's Life
Ain't Got Nothin'
Really should have tried Bag It Up, The Turning and Boy with the Blues. Missed chance.
I only see the DOYS and CY tour as greatest hits tours.
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Post by Jack on Nov 16, 2016 11:48:31 GMT -5
He seriously needs to change up his setlist. Same old stuff every gig. I know he has to cater to the mainstream and casual Oasis fans, but come on, how about 'Idlers Dream', 'Alone On The Rope' or even an acoustic 'Fade In/Out'? He's played 2 of those theee songs. He's only played ID and AOTR once, as far as i'm aware. I meant he should incorporate those songs more regularly. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 21:30:41 GMT -5
He's played 2 of those theee songs. He's only played ID and AOTR once, as far as i'm aware. I meant he should incorporate those songs more regularly. He played both twice. This is the play count of every song that he played with Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds: 1. AKA... What a Life! - 277 2. Don't Look Back in Anger - 269 3. If I Had a Gun... - 269 4. Everybody's on the Run - 264 5. The Death of You and Me - 235 6. Dream On -209 7. Half the World Away - 199 8. (Stranded On) The Wrong Beach - 186 9. AKA... Broken Arrow - 180 10. Talk Tonight - 176 11. (It's Good) To Be Free - 140 12. (I Wanna Live in a Dream in My) Record Machine - 137 13. Lock All the Doors - 127 14. In the Heat of the Moment - 124 15. Riverman - 124 16. You Know We Can't Go Back - 124 17. The Mexican - 123 18. Whatever - 122 19. Digsy's Dinner - 121 20. Champagne Supernova - 118 21. The Masterplan - 116 22. Little by Little - 108 23. Supersonic - 105 24. Wonderwall - 101 25. Freaky Teeth - 92 26. The Good Rebel - 90 27. Fade Away - 87 28. Mucky Fingers - 85 29. Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks - 85 30. Ballad of the Mighty I - 79 31. The Dying of the Light - 64 32. D'Yer Wanna Be a Spaceman? - 61 33. The Importance of Being Idle - 61 34. Do the Damage - 45 35. Listen Up - 43 36. Let the Lord Shine a Light on Me - 32 37. Sad Song - 20 38. A Simple Game of Genius - 5 39. Live Forever - 5 40. Shout It Out Loud - 4 41. Town Called Malice - 2 42. Lord Don't Slow Me Down - 2 43. Angel Child - 2 44. Pretty Green - 2 45. Alone on the Rope - 2 46. Idler's Dream - 2 47. Cast No Shadow - 1 48. Slide Away - 1 49. Don't Think Twice, It's All Right - 1 |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 18, 2016 22:03:02 GMT -5
I can't believe he's played Record Machine so many times...
One of his worst from his solo career thus far, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 8:49:35 GMT -5
The Mexican reminds me of Andy Bell trying to write an Oasis songs. With Dream On his worst solo song. (I even prefer Stop the Clocks above these two.)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 8:51:56 GMT -5
I can't believe he's played Record Machine so many times... One of his worst from his solo career thus far, imo. It's a banger live though. Really, really good. |
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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 21, 2016 9:21:08 GMT -5
The Mexican reminds me of Andy Bell trying to write an Oasis songs. With Dream On his worst solo song. (I even prefer Stop the Clocks above these two.) Dream On is brilliant. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 21, 2016 9:30:09 GMT -5
I can't believe he's played Record Machine so many times... One of his worst from his solo career thus far, imo. Can't believe he played The Good Rebel 90(!!!) times. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 21, 2016 10:29:26 GMT -5
I can't believe he's played Record Machine so many times... One of his worst from his solo career thus far, imo. It's a banger live though. Really, really good. D'you reckon? I saw him do it and I didn't think it was much to shout home about, to be honest. Better than the Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds version, sure, but still not great... That song had 'Oasis' written all over it. That oasis never recorded it is a shame, but I'd still rather it had been left in its rough demo form, doomed to spend the rest of eternity as just another "what if..." song for oasis, than be fully recorded in a tepid and uninspired way (thank fuck Noely G seems to be over his wanting to stick choirs on everything phase! I hated all that shit) to close out the first side of Noel's debut solo record. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 21, 2016 10:49:06 GMT -5
The Mexican reminds me of Andy Bell trying to write an Oasis songs. With Dream On his worst solo song. (I even prefer Stop the Clocks above these two.) Dream On is brilliant. Agreed. I love its quirkiness. I was really hoping there'd be more of that on Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds, when The Death Of You And Me dropped and it had all those fabulous horns on it, and [whatever that percussion instrument is called that's also on She's Electric], and after Noel had taken his writing in quite a different direction on Dig Out Your Soul, but alas, everything else on there (barring, probably, Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks) turned out to have been pretty much drained to grey. Fortunately, Chasing Yesterday had a bit more going for it in that department, I think. But yeah, in short: a nice tune that's infinitely more enjoyable, for me, than the ones either side of it... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 12:12:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Dream On is brilliant, but yes, it's a nice bright song. I prefer Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks (in this kind of Kinks-y song) though. Better melody, better lyrics, better vocals.
The songs I can't stand from NGHFB are What A Life and Stop The Clocks. I'm not a fan of Broken Arrow and Record Machine aswell. I like the rest (though IIHAG and EOTR are a bit borderline).
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 21, 2016 12:16:51 GMT -5
If I want to listen to Kinks-y songs, then no thanks, I'll just listen to the Kinks themselves.
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