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Post by Terrasolo on Sept 2, 2024 18:58:32 GMT -5
And you would be right! He was asked about them on the Matt Morgan podcast recently and he hates the look of them! Especially the headstock. Reckons there’s never been a good song written in a PRS. I knew it  I can't really imagine Noel playing something like this. Man, they do look awful...  In fairness, I do like the fretboard, but I don't like anything else about them. Noel Hogan plays one in the Cranberries, but I have never been able to get past the headstock alone. |
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Post by Sadie on Sept 2, 2024 19:26:52 GMT -5
I knew it I can't really imagine Noel playing something like this. Man, they do look awful... In fairness, I do like the fretboard, but I don't like anything else about them. Noel Hogan plays one in the Cranberries, but I have never been able to get past the headstock alone. One of my favourite guitarists of all time, Gustavo Cerati, was very well-known for playing PRS guitars so I've always quite liked them but yeah, they're certainly different! I've never owned one, the only guitars I've ever owned have been Epiphones, one Tanglewood and one Yamaha when I was starting out |
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Post by Terrasolo on Sept 2, 2024 20:22:03 GMT -5
In fairness, I do like the fretboard, but I don't like anything else about them. Noel Hogan plays one in the Cranberries, but I have never been able to get past the headstock alone. One of my favourite guitarists of all time, Gustavo Cerati, was very well-known for playing PRS guitars so I've always quite liked them but yeah, they're certainly different! I've never owned one, the only guitars I've ever owned have been Epiphones, one Tanglewood and one Yamaha when I was starting out I've had Epiphone, Guild, and Sigmas, and now I have my first Gibson on the the way. Noel Hogan looks right playing his PRS, just as Hendrix looks right with his Strat. I'm not sure why that is, but then they do have their fans. Personally, I'm not into the look of them, aside from the fretboard as I said. But then I am most used to Epiphones, so the Gibson style may be ingrained on me. Les Pauls and 335/355s. |
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Post by Sadie on Sept 2, 2024 20:32:08 GMT -5
One of my favourite guitarists of all time, Gustavo Cerati, was very well-known for playing PRS guitars so I've always quite liked them but yeah, they're certainly different! I've never owned one, the only guitars I've ever owned have been Epiphones, one Tanglewood and one Yamaha when I was starting out I've had Epiphone, Guild, and Sigmas, and now I have my first Gibson on the the way. Noel Hogan looks right playing his PRS, just as Hendrix looks right with his Strat. I'm not sure why that is, but then they do have their fans. Personally, I'm not into the look of them, aside from the fretboard as I said. But then I am most used to Epiphones, so the Gibson style may be ingrained on me. Les Pauls and 335/355s. What are Sigmas like? Never had one myself but I've heard great things! |
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Post by Terrasolo on Sept 2, 2024 21:40:01 GMT -5
I've had Epiphone, Guild, and Sigmas, and now I have my first Gibson on the the way. Noel Hogan looks right playing his PRS, just as Hendrix looks right with his Strat. I'm not sure why that is, but then they do have their fans. Personally, I'm not into the look of them, aside from the fretboard as I said. But then I am most used to Epiphones, so the Gibson style may be ingrained on me. Les Pauls and 335/355s. What are Sigmas like? Never had one myself but I've heard great things! I really like mine, it's from the early 90's at best guess. I have a DR-4, and I like the sound and the way it plays. I don't know what the new ones are like, since they are no longer owned by Martin, but I've had mine for years so it's well played in. I prefer electric though, so I don't play it as much as I once did. |
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Post by andymorris on Sept 4, 2024 16:22:37 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher thought more like
« ah, shit, why did i agree to this »
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Post by Wolf on Sept 4, 2024 17:50:04 GMT -5
Just been doing a re-listen of Council Skies.
It is most definitely his best album followed by CH. I do think due to how fucking good it is, it's a major driving force behind the reunion.
It would be very difficult to top. Good time to stick the birds on ice for a bit.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 5, 2024 1:23:18 GMT -5
Just been doing a re-listen of Council Skies. It is most definitely his best album followed by CH. I do think due to how fucking good it is, it's a major driving force behind the reunion. It would be very difficult to top. Good time to stick the birds on ice for a bit. I want to like it. It has all the Gallaghers hooks, but it sill bores me. It saddens me really, but i just cant appreciate this record. |
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Post by The Chief on Sept 5, 2024 5:50:55 GMT -5
Just been doing a re-listen of Council Skies. It is most definitely his best album followed by CH. I do think due to how fucking good it is, it's a major driving force behind the reunion. It would be very difficult to top. Good time to stick the birds on ice for a bit. I want to like it. It has all the Gallaghers hooks, but it sill bores me. It saddens me really, but i just cant appreciate this record. Same. It has what I consider to be his best song, "Dead to the World", and one of his best, "Think of a Number", but there's just no need for INGUT and "Open The Door..." which are just... boring adult contemporary. "Pretty Boy", "There she blows" and "Love is a Rich Man" are OK, "Trying to find a World..." and "Council Skies" are fine, "Easy Now" starts and finishes. The record itself is inconsistent and is more a collection of songs than an actual record. That's not always a bad thing though. To me, Chasing Yesterday is more a collection of songs than an actual record too but the majority of the songs on it are so much better than CS. Yeah, it's my least favourite of his. |
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Post by Terrasolo on Sept 5, 2024 6:37:28 GMT -5
Hard disagree there. I love this album. Although even Noel admits that pretty boy was a holdover that he decided to put on this album, and I agree it does feel that way. I don’t think the song is bad per se. I just think he should’ve dropped the drum machine, and put real drums to it. Outside of that, It’s a fantastic album
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Post by dadrocker on Sept 5, 2024 8:00:39 GMT -5
I still love CS outside of Pretty Boy. Great stuff. Glad to be of the age where I can enjoy boring adult contemporary shit and dad rock. It's just good music whatever you want to label it.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Sept 5, 2024 8:27:51 GMT -5
I love it. The NGHFB album I have listened to the most for some margin. There is something warm and comforting about that album
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 5, 2024 8:30:06 GMT -5
It's his weakest solo album, for me, but still solid. "Flying on the Ground" and "We're On Our Way Now" in place of "Open a Door" and "Love is a Rich Man" would have put it up there with the others, though.
The former, in particular, would have been an excellent lead single. Great tune.
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Post by Sadie on Sept 5, 2024 9:26:45 GMT -5
It's his weakest solo album, for me, but still solid. "Flying on the Ground" and "We're On Our Way Now" in place of "Open a Door" and "Love is a Rich Man" would have put it up there with the others, though. The former, in particular, would have been an excellent lead single. Great tune. Why it was used as a filler on a random best-of is still a mystery to me. An absolutely incredible song |
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Post by megyesitomate on Sept 5, 2024 11:06:02 GMT -5
The material is there, but the tracklist of Council Skies just doesn’t make sense to me. I think even he admit to regretting putting INGUT as the opener and I can’t help but agree with him, especially when Pretty Boy proved to be such a good first song at live gigs. The most infuriating thing about the album, though, is that there’s no follow-up to a song titled ‘X Part 1’! I find that literally unbelievable.
To me, ideally, the album would open with Trying to Find a World That's Been and Gone: Part 1, quickly followed by Pretty Boy and end with INGUT and Part 2. If only the latter existed, I could actually shuffle the songs into this sequence on my MP4. If only…
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Post by PepsiNebula on Sept 5, 2024 19:47:24 GMT -5
I want to like it. It has all the Gallaghers hooks, but it sill bores me. It saddens me really, but i just cant appreciate this record. Same. It has what I consider to be his best song, "Dead to the World", and one of his best, "Think of a Number", but there's just no need for INGUT and "Open The Door..." which are just... boring adult contemporary. "Pretty Boy", "There she blows" and "Love is a Rich Man" are OK, "Trying to find a World..." and "Council Skies" are fine, "Easy Now" starts and finishes. The record itself is inconsistent and is more a collection of songs than an actual record. That's not always a bad thing though. To me, Chasing Yesterday is more a collection of songs than an actual record too but the majority of the songs on it are so much better than CS. Yeah, it's my least favourite of his. This is the most brutal "damning with faint praise" I have seen in a long time. Well done. |
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Post by andymorris on Sept 6, 2024 0:46:12 GMT -5
It's his weakest solo album, for me, but still solid. "Flying on the Ground" and "We're On Our Way Now" in place of "Open a Door" and "Love is a Rich Man" would have put it up there with the others, though. The former, in particular, would have been an excellent lead single. Great tune. Why it was used as a filler on a random best-of is still a mystery to me. An absolutely incredible song Its Noel Gallagher. Master of shit album tracklists and great buried bsides |
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Post by andymorris on Sept 6, 2024 0:49:44 GMT -5
Same. It has what I consider to be his best song, "Dead to the World", and one of his best, "Think of a Number", but there's just no need for INGUT and "Open The Door..." which are just... boring adult contemporary. "Pretty Boy", "There she blows" and "Love is a Rich Man" are OK, "Trying to find a World..." and "Council Skies" are fine, "Easy Now" starts and finishes. The record itself is inconsistent and is more a collection of songs than an actual record. That's not always a bad thing though. To me, Chasing Yesterday is more a collection of songs than an actual record too but the majority of the songs on it are so much better than CS. Yeah, it's my least favourite of his. This is the most brutal "damning with faint praise" I have seen in a long time. Well done. Ahah yeah. Deserved though. Obviously the song Noel put on the album to try and get back his old fans. |
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Post by rkid95 on Sept 6, 2024 5:10:53 GMT -5
Fortunately I have the ability to re-evaluate albums over time, and CS is not among them, it doesn't have the same verve as previous albums. And if the first two were classics, and the third was an experimental album, the last one was something too quiet.
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Post by The Chief on Sept 6, 2024 6:46:16 GMT -5
Same. It has what I consider to be his best song, "Dead to the World", and one of his best, "Think of a Number", but there's just no need for INGUT and "Open The Door..." which are just... boring adult contemporary. "Pretty Boy", "There she blows" and "Love is a Rich Man" are OK, "Trying to find a World..." and "Council Skies" are fine, "Easy Now" starts and finishes. The record itself is inconsistent and is more a collection of songs than an actual record. That's not always a bad thing though. To me, Chasing Yesterday is more a collection of songs than an actual record too but the majority of the songs on it are so much better than CS. Yeah, it's my least favourite of his. This is the most brutal "damning with faint praise" I have seen in a long time. Well done. The first time I heard that was from Noel on the Songbird DVD ages ago. He was praising Songbird and Born on a Different Cloud and he said that about Better Man "it starts and it finishes and it doesn't say much" or something like that. It was too good not to nick it!  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 6, 2024 10:56:06 GMT -5
It's his weakest solo album, for me, but still solid. "Flying on the Ground" and "We're On Our Way Now" in place of "Open a Door" and "Love is a Rich Man" would have put it up there with the others, though. The former, in particular, would have been an excellent lead single. Great tune. Why it was used as a filler on a random best-of is still a mystery to me. An absolutely incredible song One of his best as a solo artist imo, such a shame it's basically for die-hards only |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 6, 2024 11:02:47 GMT -5
As for Council Skies, I still like the album
I prefer WBTM over it, and I agree the production lacks a bit of punch, but I find something enjoyable in every track, whereas I always struggled with 1 or 2 on his previous records
I always find this a good listen as a whole, although I do feel it's got less peaks than most of his other releases (for instance, NGHFB has TDOYAM, What A Life, Broken Arrow, EOTR, IIHAG, Chasing Yestarday has Riverman, BOTMI, WTSRTS, arguably even YKWCGB)
While I love I'm Not Giving Up Tonight and There She Blows, I think only Think of a Number and Dead to the World are up there with his best material, and to be fair it's great that he can still write stuff like that
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Post by The Chief on Sept 7, 2024 7:30:07 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed that the saxophone solo in Riverman is slightly out of time? It's starts a bit late and it ends like half a measure before the drums starts again.
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Post by Supersonic on Sept 8, 2024 10:18:20 GMT -5
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Post by shraqil on Sept 8, 2024 11:45:00 GMT -5
Wasn't aware but sounds intriguing...
Albums produced with Dave Sardy are my favorite albums we've gotten since the 90's (DBTT, DOYS, HFB Debut)
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