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Post by Teotihuacan on Dec 26, 2021 8:23:55 GMT -5
^ Noel kinda covered Force Of Nature, if you remember it was 'out' online a couple years in advance of Heathen chemistry's release. I can't remember if it was recorded in the SOTSOG period / sessions but it was written for and the lyric is apparently entirely about the characters, betrayals and switcheroos in the movie Love Honour Betray. I've not seen it but it's a Cockney gangster geezer movie in the mould of Mr. Madonna's Lock Stock movies. Noel was so hard up for tunes he resurrected this one for the album's final running order. I recall downloading FON in the middle of 2001 from kazaa, and finding it pretty unremarkable. I assumed it was ripped from an officially released soundtrack CD but FON is nowhere to be found on the discogs entry. www.discogs.com/release/3249571-Various-Love-Honour-Obey-The-Album |
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Post by Jim on Dec 26, 2021 11:43:22 GMT -5
^ Noel kinda covered Force Of Nature, if you remember it was 'out' online a couple years in advance of Heathen chemistry's release. I can't remember if it was recorded in the SOTSOG period / sessions but it was written for and the lyric is apparently entirely about the characters, betrayals and switcheroos in the movie Love Honour Betray. I've not seen it but it's a Cockney gangster geezer movie in the mould of Mr. Madonna's Lock Stock movies. Noel was so hard up for tunes he resurrected this one for the album's final running order. I recall downloading FON in the middle of 2001 from kazaa, and finding it pretty unremarkable. I assumed it was ripped from an officially released soundtrack CD but FON is nowhere to be found on the discogs entry. www.discogs.com/release/3249571-Various-Love-Honour-Obey-The-AlbumWas ripped from the vhs end credits of the movie. |
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Post by theseventwenty on Dec 26, 2021 12:36:26 GMT -5
It’s not a cover if it’s your own song
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Post by jh on Dec 26, 2021 14:43:15 GMT -5
Absolutely hate wandering star. Utter dog shit. Heathern Chemistry was pretty poor, although it had a few decent songs on it. Could never understand a cover on a bands album. smacks of laziness....even if I actually think its one of best songs kn the album. Force of nature. Cover song? I can't believe it...I stand corrected.. I thought force of nature was a cover the last 21 years!!! Love the song..and literally just checked a film I first heard the song on - Love,Honour and Obey - low and behold it's not an INXS cover!! |
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Post by underneaththesky on Dec 26, 2021 16:07:11 GMT -5
in fact, it is a cover
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 26, 2021 18:29:29 GMT -5
^ Noel kinda covered Force Of Nature, if you remember it was 'out' online a couple years in advance of Heathen chemistry's release. I can't remember if it was recorded in the SOTSOG period / sessions but it was written for and the lyric is apparently entirely about the characters, betrayals and switcheroos in the movie Love Honour Betray. I've not seen it but it's a Cockney gangster geezer movie in the mould of Mr. Madonna's Lock Stock movies. Noel was so hard up for tunes he resurrected this one for the album's final running order. I recall downloading FON in the middle of 2001 from kazaa, and finding it pretty unremarkable. I assumed it was ripped from an officially released soundtrack CD but FON is nowhere to be found on the discogs entry. www.discogs.com/release/3249571-Various-Love-Honour-Obey-The-AlbumWas ripped from the vhs end credits of the movie. Yep. I remember getting the MP3 at that time. Never once thought it would end up on an Oasis record. Noel also wrote LBL for the film but kept it back for future Oasis usage. Good idea! |
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Post by jh on Dec 27, 2021 2:46:43 GMT -5
Was ripped from the vhs end credits of the movie. Yep. I remember getting the MP3 at that time. Never once thought it would end up on an Oasis record. Noel also wrote LBL for the film but kept it back for future Oasis usage. Good idea! Well things you learn after Xmas ha ha |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 27, 2021 4:22:20 GMT -5
^ Noel kinda covered Force Of Nature, if you remember it was 'out' online a couple years in advance of Heathen chemistry's release. I can't remember if it was recorded in the SOTSOG period / sessions but it was written for and the lyric is apparently entirely about the characters, betrayals and switcheroos in the movie Love Honour Betray. I've not seen it but it's a Cockney gangster geezer movie in the mould of Mr. Madonna's Lock Stock movies. Noel was so hard up for tunes he resurrected this one for the album's final running order. I recall downloading FON in the middle of 2001 from kazaa, and finding it pretty unremarkable. I assumed it was ripped from an officially released soundtrack CD but FON is nowhere to be found on the discogs entry. www.discogs.com/release/3249571-Various-Love-Honour-Obey-The-AlbumIn context at 5:20 (clip is NSFW, of course): |
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Post by Teotihuacan on Dec 27, 2021 5:56:16 GMT -5
Noel also wrote LBL for the film but kept it back for future Oasis usage. Good idea! Yeah I now vaguely recall Noel saying Little by Little & FON were "too good" to be donated to the soundtrack and not be Oasis tracks.. I think he was half-right. Noel's never chosen to give Force of Nature an airing as a solo artist has he?, probably a wise choice. A reason it's kinda SOTSOG - ish is, as pointed out above, it cops a famous drum sample for its intro from Iggy's Nightclubbing. GLIO had the one from Johnny Jenkins and Hindu Times (the psychedelic demo & live versions from Barrowlands etc) all made use of them. Also, of course, FITB has the Mitch Mitchell Little Miss Lover BBC Jimi Hendrix sample - which has also been adapted previously by artists like Prince on his tune Tick, Tick, Bang. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 27, 2021 8:42:59 GMT -5
Noel also wrote LBL for the film but kept it back for future Oasis usage. Good idea! Yeah I now vaguely recall Noel saying Little by Little & FON were "too good" to be donated to the soundtrack and not be Oasis tracks.. I think he was half-right. Noel's never chosen to give Force of Nature an airing as a solo artist has he?, probably a wise choice. A reason it's kinda SOTSOG - ish is, as pointed out above, it cops a famous drum sample for its intro from Iggy's Nightclubbing. GLIO had the one from Johnny Jenkins and Hindu Times (the psychedelic demo & live versions from Barrowlands etc) all made use of them. Also, of course, FITB has the Mitch Mitchell Little Miss Lover BBC Jimi Hendrix sample - which has also been adapted previously by artists like Prince on his tune Tick, Tick, Bang. Still pains me Oasis never attempted it live when walking on stage. Played on the PA system? Gimme a break. That one outtake of them doing on that late night show sounded good! |
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Post by bestwick8 on Dec 27, 2021 9:48:46 GMT -5
Yeah I now vaguely recall Noel saying Little by Little & FON were "too good" to be donated to the soundtrack and not be Oasis tracks.. I think he was half-right. Noel's never chosen to give Force of Nature an airing as a solo artist has he?, probably a wise choice. A reason it's kinda SOTSOG - ish is, as pointed out above, it cops a famous drum sample for its intro from Iggy's Nightclubbing. GLIO had the one from Johnny Jenkins and Hindu Times (the psychedelic demo & live versions from Barrowlands etc) all made use of them. Also, of course, FITB has the Mitch Mitchell Little Miss Lover BBC Jimi Hendrix sample - which has also been adapted previously by artists like Prince on his tune Tick, Tick, Bang. Still pains me Oasis never attempted it live when walking on stage. Played on the PA system? Gimme a break. That one outtake of them doing on that late night show sounded good! Where can I see this outtake ?! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 27, 2021 10:32:31 GMT -5
Still pains me Oasis never attempted it live when walking on stage. Played on the PA system? Gimme a break. That one outtake of them doing on that late night show sounded good! Where can I see this outtake ?! |
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Post by bestwick8 on Dec 28, 2021 9:37:54 GMT -5
Where can I see this outtake ?! Only 30 seconds ?! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 28, 2021 12:12:30 GMT -5
I don’t make the clips I just supply them. |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 28, 2021 13:36:57 GMT -5
I never knew that this existed even if it's only a little clip.
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Dec 30, 2021 22:26:46 GMT -5
I always thought Liam on vocals for Force of Nature + faster tempo = a good snarling little b-side…at the very least
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Post by Teotihuacan on Dec 31, 2021 15:24:28 GMT -5
Time's weird, or I guess it's an abstract concept (and 'flies' the older you get), but I just looked it up and this next year Noel turns 55.
That's the same age McCartney was when Be Here Now was released and also the year Liam went on Radio 1 called him and Keith Richards "vagina"s and old farts. McCartney seemed ancient to me then and had about 50 more solo albums, or it seems like, in his discography than Noel has now at the same age, but Noel seems not so ancient.
Really both brothers have done a terrific job staying relevant for longer, neither seem like they should be put out to pasture any time soon and there's still significant interest from both hardcores and casuals about what their next moves will be, neither are full blown nostalgia or entirely trading on the past.
Remarkable when you consider guitar music is in terminal decline in mainstream pop, though rock will never truly die (I hope)
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 1, 2022 7:18:56 GMT -5
I always thought Liam on vocals for Force of Nature + faster tempo = a good snarling little b-side…at the very least One of the problems with Oasis post 2000 was a dramatic drop in the number of songs Liam sang. Noel took over like 90% of the b-sides and was popping up 2-3 times per album! |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 1, 2022 14:24:05 GMT -5
I actually like The Good Rebel and it's better than some of the songs on Noel's debut album for me.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 2, 2022 22:41:11 GMT -5
I actually like The Good Rebel and it's better than some of the songs on Noel's debut album for me. It just feels like a "Rain" ripoff. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 3, 2022 13:30:50 GMT -5
I actually like The Good Rebel and it's better than some of the songs on Noel's debut album for me. It just feels like a "Rain" ripoff. I don't know but I like it anyway. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 3, 2022 13:53:54 GMT -5
It just feels like a "Rain" ripoff. I don't know but I like it anyway. I’d be curious to hear the DIV version. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 3, 2022 13:58:24 GMT -5
I don't know but I like it anyway. I’d be curious to hear the DIV version. Yeah, I would too as it could be interesting. |
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Post by modxxii on Jan 8, 2022 3:00:10 GMT -5
Alone on the rope, what a tune.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 8, 2022 14:01:58 GMT -5
Alone on the rope, what a tune. Agreed. It's one of Noel's best solo tracks so far I think. |
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