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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 7:47:31 GMT -5
If any of you read the review from the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram you will understand the hassle that it is to be an Oasis fan living in Texas. The guy missed the entire point of the film, and then spent 1,000 words bemoaning that fact. We get it... you hate Be Here Now, you hate British bands that take over "your" charts, you hate artist who criticize what music has become post-internet explosion... on and on and on. Shut up. ------ In other news... I saw this morning that the film has an 88% on Rotten Tomatoes. So that's good. Local newspapers mate, not very relevant in the modern era. I appreciate that Fort Worth is a fair size bigger than most UK cities but in context looking the continental United States in size for comparison all that paper will be is The Leicester Mercury, Truro Packet, Newquay Voice, etc. and rather like those titles better off ignored perhaps?  Also maybe it's me but I'm slightly cynical of any media company whose background is so entrenched in a national imahge, in The McClatchey Company case despite being founded two centuries ago by an Irish immigrant during the goldrush they have built and maintained a business on US (perceived?) values including investing in American sports such as Pitssburgh Pirates. This would suggest to me rather like certain UK based media outlets with perceived 'British' values that anything from outside their sphere of comfort or influence which threatens the status quo will get a rougher ride, be it culture, politics or social affairs and so a dislike of "British bands who take over our charts" is not entirely unexpected. The bottom line is like all media companies they have a corporate agenda and people working within them with individual ideals and thoughts, so you are better off taking what facts you can from multiple sources for balance and ignoring opinion pieces by instead forming your own. I was heartened by a Gallup Poll in September that showed a drop to 32% of Americans having trust of the mainstream media, which is substantially lower than in the 1980's or 1990's for example. Interestingly though as one of a Russian background to give another spin that can be taken either way Russia Today ran an article in April claiming only 6% of Americans had a "great deal of confidence" in the mainstream media. Don't Believe the Truth indeed  (also don't let me overdo the coffee first thing in the morning, clearly  ) Hardly surprising Whoa. I was simply ranting a bit.  |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Oct 25, 2016 8:52:33 GMT -5
Local newspapers mate, not very relevant in the modern era. I appreciate that Fort Worth is a fair size bigger than most UK cities but in context looking the continental United States in size for comparison all that paper will be is The Leicester Mercury, Truro Packet, Newquay Voice, etc. and rather like those titles better off ignored perhaps? Also maybe it's me but I'm slightly cynical of any media company whose background is so entrenched in a national imahge, in The McClatchey Company case despite being founded two centuries ago by an Irish immigrant during the goldrush they have built and maintained a business on US (perceived?) values including investing in American sports such as Pitssburgh Pirates. This would suggest to me rather like certain UK based media outlets with perceived 'British' values that anything from outside their sphere of comfort or influence which threatens the status quo will get a rougher ride, be it culture, politics or social affairs and so a dislike of "British bands who take over our charts" is not entirely unexpected. The bottom line is like all media companies they have a corporate agenda and people working within them with individual ideals and thoughts, so you are better off taking what facts you can from multiple sources for balance and ignoring opinion pieces by instead forming your own. I was heartened by a Gallup Poll in September that showed a drop to 32% of Americans having trust of the mainstream media, which is substantially lower than in the 1980's or 1990's for example. Interestingly though as one of a Russian background to give another spin that can be taken either way Russia Today ran an article in April claiming only 6% of Americans had a "great deal of confidence" in the mainstream media. Don't Believe the Truth indeed (also don't let me overdo the coffee first thing in the morning, clearly ) Hardly surprising Whoa. I was simply ranting a bit. Whereas I take it to an art form 😁 |
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Post by smash on Oct 25, 2016 16:08:49 GMT -5
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Post by emanoel94 on Oct 26, 2016 3:18:17 GMT -5
I tried a search and couldn't find anything, so...does anyone know when the DVD Release for Italy will be?
It should be in the cinemas from the 7th to the 9th of November, but I still can't find any info on dvd/itunes release date
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Post by bastardnumber1 on Oct 26, 2016 8:46:26 GMT -5
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Post by jakob61907 on Oct 26, 2016 9:58:17 GMT -5
I find it a bit sad that Liam hasn't spoken to Gem and Andy. I imagine since Beady Eye split. I wonder if it's to do with Gem and Andy's partners being close with Nicole.. |
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Post by Jgrp on Oct 26, 2016 10:38:10 GMT -5
Liam describing knebworth as the pinnacle and a slow decline from there, plus the Q&A said something similar - doesn't sit well. It's made out that they totally fucked it and dissapeared after that.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 26, 2016 10:56:37 GMT -5
I find it a bit sad that Liam hasn't spoken to Gem and Andy. I imagine since Beady Eye split. I wonder if it's to do with Gem and Andy's partners being close with Nicole.. Remember when it was them against Noel, and it was clear that Noel was the bad guy in all of this because they wouldn't have gone to Liam if that wasn't the case? Well, looks like the shoe is on the other foot. Now personally, I don't think it says anything about their personal relationship (just as I thought the same with Noel). It's probably due to them not being in a band anymore. When you're not surrounded by each other 24/7, they're less chances that you'll pick-up the phone. It's weird. I've had bandmates leave, people who I couldn't go a couple days without getting in touch with them, then once they left, I didn't contact them for months on end. |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Oct 26, 2016 17:12:56 GMT -5
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Post by blurareshit on Oct 26, 2016 18:34:42 GMT -5
Congrats to all the people who are able to see it theaters tonight. Very jealous!
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Post by mystoryisgory on Oct 26, 2016 18:58:30 GMT -5
Two hours until I see Supersonic and I'm as excited as a child on Christmas morning!  |
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Post by blurareshit on Oct 26, 2016 19:07:09 GMT -5
Worst part for me is that it's playing in my town, but I can't see it because I've got work. I feel bad that I won't be able to contribute to the box office earnings, but I'll definitely buy it when the physical release comes out.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Oct 26, 2016 19:12:17 GMT -5
Two hours until I see Supersonic and I'm as excited as a child on Christmas morning! I thought you weren't gonna be able to get to a showing? Anyway, it's good news that you have been able. I hope you enjoy the film. I know I certainly did.  |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Oct 26, 2016 20:30:23 GMT -5
Two hours until I see Supersonic and I'm as excited as a child on Christmas morning! I thought you weren't gonna be able to get to a showing? Anyway, it's good news that you have been able. I hope you enjoy the film. I know I certainly did. Originally The closest showing a horrible three hours away, not to mention that it was in some smaller city and not in the booming metropolis where I am, wtf? Luckily they wised up and now it's only a half-hour subway ride away, much more convenient! Yes, even us Americans have public transportation, despite the car lobby and continual defunding by elitist conservatives who see it as evil welfare for poor people.  Kinda wish I was going with someone though...All my friends are busy tonight.  EDIT: just realized I forgot my earplugs (I want to be able to hear when I'm 60  ), but this time, any hearing damage will be worth it. |
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Post by jakob61907 on Oct 26, 2016 20:37:55 GMT -5
I find it a bit sad that Liam hasn't spoken to Gem and Andy. I imagine since Beady Eye split. I wonder if it's to do with Gem and Andy's partners being close with Nicole.. Remember when it was them against Noel, and it was clear that Noel was the bad guy in all of this because they wouldn't have gone to Liam if that wasn't the case? Well, looks like the shoe is on the other foot. Now personally, I don't think it says anything about their personal relationship (just as I thought the same with Noel). It's probably due to them not being in a band anymore. When you're not surrounded by each other 24/7, they're less chances that you'll pick-up the phone. It's weird. I've had bandmates leave, people who I couldn't go a couple days without getting in touch with them, then once they left, I didn't contact them for months on end. Yeah this is probably right. I mean I always thought Liam and Gem were quite close due to their respective partners they always seemed at each others house's and hanging out. Oh well that's life. |
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Oct 26, 2016 21:39:17 GMT -5
Like I've said for a long time Oasis should have ended it at Knebworth, it would have been epic.
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Post by bastardnumber1 on Oct 27, 2016 1:41:14 GMT -5
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Post by Jgrp on Oct 27, 2016 1:43:29 GMT -5
Like I've said for a long time Oasis should have ended it at Knebworth, it would have been epic. Fuck that. Bonehead started that statement, such bull shit IMO |
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Post by Jack on Oct 27, 2016 2:06:28 GMT -5
Who's the old bloke on the right? |
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Post by bastardnumber1 on Oct 27, 2016 3:39:25 GMT -5
One more time tonight in Berlin for me. Can't wait for the bass at the beginning dum dum dum dum Hope there will be some Interview with Liam and Bonehead and not just them being there. |
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Post by carlober on Oct 27, 2016 3:45:44 GMT -5
Some love from Ryan Adams:
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Post by guigsysEstring on Oct 27, 2016 5:32:26 GMT -5
Like I've said for a long time Oasis should have ended it at Knebworth, it would have been epic. Fuck that. Bonehead started that statement, such bull shit IMO That's your opinion mate and you're entitled to it, but by the same token Bonehead and others (me included) are entitled to theirs. Oasis at Knebworth was the peak in terms of commercial/critical success and mass adoration, and even though I do like a lot of the records that came after it is very telling that every tour afterwards for example relied heavily on the first two LP's for a set list. There was no way financially speaking with pressures from their management, publishers and record company, as well as probably the brothers (particularly Noel at that time) own realisation that solo careers wouldn't come close to what they had achieved as a band. Artistically however calling it a day after Knebworth and moving onto other projects may have been the best thing given that they couldn't (understandably) hope to recapture their meteoric rise and peak, and unfortunately a string of bizarre or poor decisions regarding band members, production, recording and touring dropped their stock even further from 1996 onwards. As I said before that isn't to say I haven't enjoyed the records that followed, but like many major bands there is usually a peak where you can say "That was their moment" be it a particular event or more realistically a period of time which in Oasis case for me was April 1994 to August 1996. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Oct 27, 2016 5:32:57 GMT -5
Some love from Ryan Adams: What a lovely thing to say! And I absolutely echo his sentiments RE: Oasis showing why "trouble matters". I'm sure many on here will look to the sky when I say this - and that's perfectly fine - but I can't help but feel that a lot of music these days does feel a little cold and well, bland, in comparison to bands such as Oasis were. Great songs there may still be, but with the people who make the songs all being absolutely terrified of just being themselves, as they are normally, warts and all, lest self-appointed judges crucify them for it on Twitter, there can't be the same fun involved with following bands anymore. |
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Post by ariananana on Oct 27, 2016 6:54:52 GMT -5
WHAT?!?! I'm in NYC too and I didn't get to grab a drink with an ex oasis member. ;(. What showing did you go to? Was at sunshine (sunnsshhheeeiiinneeee) 9.30 |
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Post by Jgrp on Oct 27, 2016 6:59:33 GMT -5
Fuck that. Bonehead started that statement, such bull shit IMO That's your opinion mate and you're entitled to it, but by the same token Bonehead and others (me included) are entitled to theirs. Oasis at Knebworth was the peak in terms of commercial/critical success and mass adoration, and even though I do like a lot of the records that came after it is very telling that every tour afterwards for example relied heavily on the first two LP's for a set list. There was no way financially speaking with pressures from their management, publishers and record company, as well as probably the brothers (particularly Noel at that time) own realisation that solo careers wouldn't come close to what they had achieved as a band. Artistically however calling it a day after Knebworth and moving onto other projects may have been the best thing given that they couldn't (understandably) hope to recapture their meteoric rise and peak, and unfortunately a string of bizarre or poor decisions regarding band members, production, recording and touring dropped their stock even further from 1996 onwards. As I said before that isn't to say I haven't enjoyed the records that followed, but like many major bands there is usually a peak where you can say "That was their moment" be it a particular event or more realistically a period of time which in Oasis case for me was April 1994 to August 1996. It's such a hindsight and 'I know best' comment to make. No one in their right mind would of even thought it never mind said it at the time. I find that statement so far fetched to say it 20 years later, it's all a bit tedious. |
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), but this time, any hearing damage will be worth it. 
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