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Post by rekrelf on Oct 3, 2016 0:40:59 GMT -5
How was the doco now??? đľ
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Post by bastardnumber1 on Oct 3, 2016 2:21:55 GMT -5
Just a few sentences about yesterday without giving away any spoilers. It was a great nostalgia trip. Not just the film itself but the whole day. Flying to England for Oasis I actually thought I´ll do again only for a reunion gig. But it came close to that. Meeting people and having a few drinks and chats with them about Oasis was and will always be great. Also seeing parts of the Band again was really nice. They all are legends in my book. Then the movie starts and it shows you from a new perspective how big they were. My girlfriend said afterwards that I watched the first minutes with my mouth and eyes open without blinking... Well, don´t think so but it could be  The Q&A was okay I think. I don´t know what I expected it to be, it was just a little bit short in my opinion and Kessler maybe wasn´t the right choice to do the thing. All in all it was a great expirence and a fantastic movie which reminded me again how old I got  Just read that it will be shown in Bangkok when I´m there so maybe I´ll watch it there again before Berlin. PS: Thanks to Whitecross and whoever was involved with this movie, they did a great job. Now please start the work on an extended 7 hours cut to release it next year  Oh and Knebworth too...and a Soundtrack I need to hear 3 songs of it in full |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Oct 3, 2016 4:46:47 GMT -5
I think Liam should learn how to do a proper interview, I know this doesn't really count in front of a cinema audience with Bonehead and Matt. But the + Noel has is the you could listen to him a really longtime because he is a great storyteller. Liam isn't. In fairness Liam has done some great written interviews, but I take your point with an unscripted off the cuff one in front of the cameras. If you are producing such a feature and have researched the band though then it should be quite obvious that Liam's forte aside from being an iconic singer is a relaxed atmosphere interview in a pub or similar, possibly shot over a number of hours before being edited down into a circa half hour featurette. One of Noel's strengths is his ability to talk off the cuff for hours without losing rhythm and telling stories, although TBH most of those stories if you are a fan you will have heard before. Another reason for this away from a natural inclination is Noel has not been out of the public eye for any real length of time, he is usually being interviewed or speaking whether it is promoting a record or tour, popping up on football related radio or TV shows or being asked his opinion at events, and so is constantly in practice for unscripted speaking. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 4:51:56 GMT -5
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Oct 3, 2016 4:55:35 GMT -5
Are people being fucking serious?
The questions were shit!
Liam was hilarious and had the cinema audience where i was in stitches the whole time.
He cannot do anything without you comparing him to Noel. Give me that over noel sat in a chair with his pre rehearsed answers about Morrisey and riverman or what socks he is wearing any day of the week.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Oct 3, 2016 5:02:56 GMT -5
Are people being fucking serious? The questions were shit! Liam was hilarious and had the cinema audience where i was in stitches the whole time. He cannot do anything without you comparing him to Noel. Give me that over noel sat in a chair with his pre rehearsed answers about Morrisey and riverman or what socks he is wearing any day of the week. Bit rich coming from you who is obsessed with Noel. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 5:09:06 GMT -5
Are people being fucking serious? The questions were shit! Liam was hilarious and had the cinema audience where i was in stitches the whole time. He cannot do anything without you comparing him to Noel. Give me that over noel sat in a chair with his pre rehearsed answers about Morrisey and riverman or what socks he is wearing any day of the week. Don't get me wrong, I said this Q&A didn't really count, it was a mess, somehow the chairs got lost, weird questions. But you can't deny that Noel is better in doing interviews than Liam. And since this kind of Liam last chance, he should maybe practice it. But you probably think I'm someone else? |
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 3, 2016 5:18:43 GMT -5
I did enjoy the doc last night and my other half who're not even an Oasis fan enjoyed it too. He hates all those tabloids of Gallaghers causing trouble, but I think he got an another view of them by this documentary. Matt Whitecross did a good job. and Q&A...it was like a school reunion for Liam and Bonehead. When a woman in the audience asked Liam if he could give a name for her baby girl, Liam said "Peggy", but then Bonehead came up with "Noely", then they were both agree, "yeah, it gotta be Noely". All the comments by Noel and Liam in the doc made me happy, but sad at same time. My friend in England who's been an Oasis fan since 1994 said to me last night that it brought him the great memory back. PS: and PLEASE don't this thread to get derailed for Noel vs Liam debate. Q&A wasn't a big deal to be honest, but it was nice to see Liam live (on screen for me anyway). |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Oct 3, 2016 5:24:04 GMT -5
I did enjoy the doc last night and my other half who're not even an Oasis fan enjoyed it too. He hates all those tabloids of Gallaghers causing trouble, but I think he got an another view of them by this documentary. Matt Whitecross did a good job. and Q&A...it was like a school reunion for Liam and Bonehead. When a woman in the audience asked Liam if he could give a name for her baby girl, Liam said "Peggy", but then Bonehead came up with "Noely", then they were both agree, "yeah, it gotta be Noely". All the comments by Noel and Liam in the doc made me happy, but sad at same time. My friend in England who's been an Oasis fan since 1994 said to me last night that it brought him the great memory back. Think it was Noelene that they suggested, that bit was weird! Yes, when Bonehead came on stage the pair of them seemed to forget they were supposed to be being interviewed. Ted Kessler really didn't seem to have a handle on things. Before the film started there was a countdown on the screen with Oasis-themed graphics and short clips from the film as a teaser which was pretty cool. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 6:10:11 GMT -5
review, rated 3 out of 5 stars "it should probably be entitled Oasis: The Golden Years, because it ends with the bandâs colossal concert at Knebworth in 1996, almost implying they went up in a blaze of glory after that."
"but it is disappointingly coy on the bandâs decline and breakup"
"odd to see the years 1996-2009 airbrushed out of history."www.theguardian.com/film/2016/oct/02/supersonic-review-oasis-documentary-noel-gallagher-liam-gallagher-mat-whitecrossI kind of get his point, it doesnt really cover oasis as a whole and almost runs on the lines of if they broke up after knebworth, you would think they would at least do a wrap up at the end of what happened after up to the breakup, its abit of a "look at this but dont worry about that, you dont need to see that" timeline scope. but overall I think hes missed the point that the doc was about their rise to fame, guess the sequel could cover the later years.... |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Oct 3, 2016 6:22:32 GMT -5
3/5 from the Guardian?
Confirmation that this is the greatest thing ever commited to film.
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Post by CF83 on Oct 3, 2016 6:51:14 GMT -5
I wish they'd covered the madness of the Be Here Now period, when that door slams at the end of the album, THAT'S the end of Oasis in their first incarnation
Brilliant film tho.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Oct 3, 2016 7:09:52 GMT -5
I wish they'd covered the madness of the Be Here Now period, when that door slams at the end of the album, THAT'S the end of Oasis in their first incarnation Brilliant film tho. The Be Here Now era I always see as a separate time frame to the 1993-1996 signing and meteoric rise of Oasis. September 1996 was the beginning of a period of 18 months where Oasis went from being arguably the biggest band in the world (although not the USA) to very nearly breaking up on the BHN tour under legal and personal pressures along with constant media scrutiny before coming through seemingly intact until the SOTSOG sessions in the summer of 1999. It would make a fascinating documentary on it's own but one which will unfortunately never be made despite backstage and gig footage shot at the time existing, not least due to Noel Gallagher's personal dislike of that era. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 7:10:37 GMT -5
I wish they'd covered the madness of the Be Here Now period, when that door slams at the end of the album, THAT'S the end of Oasis in their first incarnation Brilliant film tho. I personally think they shouldve covered the whole rise and fall of oasis, seems abit odd to me to just stop at a certain point when the band clearly carried on for over another decade, feels like a revisionist history that they did go out with a blaze of glory in 1996 when things were at there biggest, I guess they wanted to cover the speed in which oasis became as big as they did and knebworth was the peak of that success it makes sense to have that as the bookend, anything after that (including BHN) was descending on the other side of that peak, knebworth is the easiest point to end the film on a high note and general final destination of their climb, if you go into BHN then you start that timeline of things coming down which then needs to go right to the end if you start that run really. BHN was the end of that first and best version of oasis but it wasnt the highest point of those glory years either. |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Oct 3, 2016 7:31:49 GMT -5
I wish they'd covered the madness of the Be Here Now period, when that door slams at the end of the album, THAT'S the end of Oasis in their first incarnation Brilliant film tho. I personally think they shouldve covered the whole rise and fall of oasis, seems abit odd to me to just stop at a certain point when the band clearly carried on for over another decade, feels like a revisionist history that they did go out with a blaze of glory in 1996 when things were at there biggest, I guess they wanted to cover the speed in which oasis became as big as they did and knebworth was the peak of that success it makes sense to have that as the bookend, anything after that (including BHN) was descending on the other side of that peak, knebworth is the easiest point to end the film on a high note and general final destination of their climb, if you go into BHN then you start that timeline of things coming down which then needs to go right to the end if you start that run really. BHN was the end of that first and best version of oasis but it wasnt the highest point of those glory years either. Covering Oasis up until Knebworth does make sense to me in a way because it covers the rise from chancers in a rehearsal room like so many other bands through to not only the biggest band in the UK but also and rather uniquely versus most big artists a major influence on the contemporary culture of that period as well. Be Here Now was the period that it all began to change culturally, musically and politically, which we have covered in other debates and as I said earlier I think would make a fascinating documentary in it's own right. The remaining years were hit and miss for what had become to music listeners outside of the fan base 'another big name band', with the documented issues and successes of those times which could never recaptured the early years ascendancy or the late 1995 to late 1997 Zeitgeist of Oasis at their commercial and cultural influencing peak. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Oct 3, 2016 7:39:50 GMT -5
Are people being fucking serious? The questions were shit! Liam was hilarious and had the cinema audience where i was in stitches the whole time. He cannot do anything without you comparing him to Noel. Give me that over noel sat in a chair with his pre rehearsed answers about Morrisey and riverman or what socks he is wearing any day of the week. Don't get me wrong, I said this Q&A didn't really count, it was a mess, somehow the chairs got lost, weird questions. But you can't deny that Noel is better in doing interviews than Liam. And since this kind of Liam last chance, he should maybe practice it. But you probably think I'm someone else? I agree. Dont understand why they didnt give it a more formal setting at least. For me, seeing Liam talk shit like that was hilarious and the whole cinema i was in thought the same. I dont doubt Noel would have had anecdotes lined up but ive listened to Noels interviews throughout the past few years and there is very very rarely an anecdote i havent heard before, its boring. If you mention stop crying your heart out, he will tell you about leona lewis keeching or england football team, if you ask him about riverman etc etc you know the score. Youre probably right to say you need it to be successful but even as the biggest Oasis fan, im becoming tired of Noels answers, with Liam there is at least that honesty and no sucking up to the media. I dont understand why you think, or who you think, i would have you confused with either. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 7:42:24 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I said this Q&A didn't really count, it was a mess, somehow the chairs got lost, weird questions. But you can't deny that Noel is better in doing interviews than Liam. And since this kind of Liam last chance, he should maybe practice it. But you probably think I'm someone else? I agree. Dont understand why they didnt give it a more formal setting at least. For me, seeing Liam talk shit like that was hilarious and the whole cinema i was in thought the same. I dont doubt Noel would have had anecdotes lined up but ive listened to Noels interviews throughout the past few years and there is very very rarely an anecdote i havent heard before, its boring. If you mention stop crying your heart out, he will tell you about leona lewis keeching or england football team, if you ask him about riverman etc etc you know the score. Youre probably right to say you need it to be successful but even as the biggest Oasis fan, im becoming tired of Noels answers, with Liam there is at least that honesty and sucking up to the media. I dont understand why you think, or who you think, i would have you confused with either. ''He cannot do anything without you comparing him to Noel.'' I agree with your post btw. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Oct 3, 2016 7:45:38 GMT -5
Are people being fucking serious? The questions were shit! Liam was hilarious and had the cinema audience where i was in stitches the whole time. He cannot do anything without you comparing him to Noel. Give me that over noel sat in a chair with his pre rehearsed answers about Morrisey and riverman or what socks he is wearing any day of the week. Bit rich coming from you who is obsessed with Noel. I love both Gallaghers. The Noel i watched on the doc was much more the Noel i become accustomed to growing up and loving the band though, i find it sad how much he has changed. If i come across "team liam" then thats because i dont see Noel being so unfairly bashed at every opportunity on here. If you look at the comments on Liam here for instance, no one has acknowledged the actual questions gave him no direction to really take anyrhing anywhere for dicussion. If you genuinely enjoy pre meditated answers by media savy pop stars then good for you, there's many of them you have to enjoy. |
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Post by bastardnumber1 on Oct 3, 2016 8:19:56 GMT -5
I think it is good that they ended with the "highlight" of their career. You can´t really fit their whole career together in one movie, even the period until Knebworth could have made a few more hours worth of watching - at least for the fans. As guigsysEstring already mentioned the Be here now era, starting with the day after Knebworth, alone would give tons of interesting material. MTV Unplugged, the failed US Tour, Split speculations, getting together again, recording the album, the sheer madness with their security at that time that nothing gets out, the sheer madness around the release of it, the touring, the incidents, THE COCAINE,... until the end of an era I guess. So maybe we will see this in 20 years when Noel doesn´t care anymore what happened back then  |
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Post by oasisglory on Oct 3, 2016 8:27:26 GMT -5
Was brilliant, wasn't it? It just caught the spirit and ethos of the whole thing beautifully. both in terms of the music and personalities.
The main thing for me was that sense of pride/buzz you got from the whole event, from the countdown before to the (albeit underwhelming) Q+A; that sense of 'getting' it all. As guigsysEstring said above, Oasis were a major influence on the contemporary culture of that period as well, and personally I think they're the last band, certainly out of Britain, to have that impact, which makes it even more of a privilege to be a part of this (as music snobbery as this may sound, but there you go)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 10:00:20 GMT -5
Are people being fucking serious? The questions were shit! Liam was hilarious and had the cinema audience where i was in stitches the whole time. He cannot do anything without you comparing him to Noel. Give me that over noel sat in a chair with his pre rehearsed answers about Morrisey and riverman or what socks he is wearing any day of the week. Don't get me wrong, I said this Q&A didn't really count, it was a mess, somehow the chairs got lost, weird questions. But you can't deny that Noel is better in doing interviews than Liam. And since this kind of Liam last chance, he should maybe practice it. But you probably think I'm someone else? Interviews aren't something you can practice and become "good" at them. It's more like natural talent (personality) or something you've learnt as a kid (I read Noel had to tell false stories all the time when he was younger because his father was violent drunk and he had to come up with different excuses why he had bruises and other shit going). |
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Post by matt on Oct 3, 2016 10:30:17 GMT -5
review, rated 3 out of 5 stars "it should probably be entitled Oasis: The Golden Years, because it ends with the bandâs colossal concert at Knebworth in 1996, almost implying they went up in a blaze of glory after that."
"but it is disappointingly coy on the bandâs decline and breakup"
"odd to see the years 1996-2009 airbrushed out of history."www.theguardian.com/film/2016/oct/02/supersonic-review-oasis-documentary-noel-gallagher-liam-gallagher-mat-whitecrossI kind of get his point, it doesnt really cover oasis as a whole and almost runs on the lines of if they broke up after knebworth, you would think they would at least do a wrap up at the end of what happened after up to the breakup, its abit of a "look at this but dont worry about that, you dont need to see that" timeline scope. but overall I think hes missed the point that the doc was about their rise to fame, guess the sequel could cover the later years.... The problem is - aside from Be Here Now, where there is a story to be told - there isn't much to intrigue the general public beyond Knebworth, so therefore there's not a market for it. It wasn't a spectacular decline for Oasis, more a slow decline that lacked the drama of the 90s and neither were they at the heart of popular culture. It's a good rags to riches story, the rest is merely a footnote to the viewing public. Everything that encapsulates Oasis - and all that was great about them - is in this film. Nothing more needs to be said, and issues such as the breakdown of Noel and Liam's relationship is a personal rather than public matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 11:00:35 GMT -5
Fucking great! Looks like my driving (theory) lesson is only 1 hour long. That will leave me 2 hours to drive 60km and watch it in cinema. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 3, 2016 13:06:49 GMT -5
Good Lord! The DVD will be released in November! That's still nearly a month away.
Bummer.
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 3, 2016 13:12:14 GMT -5
Good Lord! The DVD will be released in November! That's still nearly a month away. Bummer. Pick the nearest Pathe! You can watch it this Thursday already. |
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Just read that it will be shown in Bangkok when I´m there so maybe I´ll watch it there again before Berlin.
Oh and Knebworth too...and a Soundtrack I need to hear 3 songs of it in full
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