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Post by dyinglight94 on Feb 2, 2016 19:55:18 GMT -5
I'll probably provide an update on myself soon through this thread. I know you're just internet guys, but for a friendless whinging useless hermit guy like me, thanks for all the support. It means a lot. Things have just been very tough for me.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 2, 2016 20:25:55 GMT -5
I'll probably provide an update on myself soon through this thread. I know you're just internet guys, but for a friendless whinging useless hermit guy like me, thanks for all the support. It means a lot. Things have just been very tough for me. Keep going my friend. Haven't had any of the struggles to the level you have but after having smoked far to much dope at college it left me with anxiety, panic attacks and home bound. At 18 having to get on a train for 30 mins to watch my first Oasis gig at Finsbury Park was one of the hardest things I have had to do! It felt for a quite a while like it wouldn't get better but slowly it did. The world has been an easier place to make sense of the older I've got, I know that isn't the same for everyone but keep trying. Don't give me bad thoughts about Northern Ireland though mate My gran is from Larne and I'm hoping to get out there one day. Hope things are better for you now. Get back to us all soon. Tom
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Post by nataliemckinney on Feb 2, 2016 23:16:16 GMT -5
I've dealt with depression, anxiety and social anxiety disorder for the majority of my life. It's a real bitch. I was bullied in high school too, for many years, and interestingly enough when I went to a high school reunion years later, most of the kids didn't remember ever picking on me. One even told me that he picked on everyone. It was an issue in our school, and my senior year, a boy did bring a gun to class and killed another right there in the class room. Bullying is a terrible, awful thing, and I understand how this can scar you.
Like so many others have said, I don't have any great advice. I can only tell you what I know. Getting help is essential, and if the meds aren't helping, they need to be adjusted or changed. Ongoing counseling is a must too - along with the meds. Depression is far too dangerous of a disease not to be treated correctly. It can take you down quick and without warning. It took me a long time to find the right combo of meds before I started to feel better. Don't give up though.
Know that it isn't YOU, you can't help what you're going through, and you aren't alone. My social anxiety disorder often keeps me from having friendships in the "real" world, and I consider my online friends my friends. It's just a different type of relationship, and it works just great for me. You've got people here who can relate, so hang out here - we all have a lot to chat about, are happy to listen when you need to reach out.
Keep us posted, alright?
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Post by boneheadsbolero on Feb 3, 2016 2:26:12 GMT -5
Holy shit. It got heavy in here. I haven't read the other responses and probably someone has said this but a good place to start is figuring out what you enjoy and then looking for places where others do said thing you enjoy. School, work or churches can help you there. Your post is eloquent so it's not like you're some brain dead shrimp with no potential for real contact. Easier said than done I know but you're gonna have to take that risk. In the meantime don't do anything stupid. Also, in your late 20's some of this despair will begin to lift. When you look at others who seem to have it all going for them know this, very few people in this world are really living the lives they'd like to be living and that includes them so don't be jealous. You are not alone. Life can be tough but it's doable.
Okay, I just read Natalie's post above this. She says some good things in it. I'd listen to her. Woody Allen said something once that might help a little. "90 percent of life is about showing up." He also said, "Hey, don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love." I hope that gave you a laugh. It did me so chin up little buckaroo. Somewhere out there is something good with your name on it.
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Post by draper on Feb 3, 2016 5:23:30 GMT -5
I've had my tough times. Dad died when I was young. Quite a hard time at school when I was very young. But never been as down as you sound.
Maybe learn to play guitar would be good advice. Something to put your mind to, as you love music. Maybe follow some lessons, a way to get to know people who love music as well. Hopefully you meet some nice people at gigs too!
Keep up!
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Feb 9, 2016 12:52:15 GMT -5
Do you like to read? A couple months ago I read How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie. It was written in the 1930s, so some of the language and even a bit of the advice is outdated, but the general concepts are still relevant and always will be. It's a short read and will be well worth your time if social skills are a problem for you. I've also been reading Leil Lowndes' books. I never trusted self help books before but there are some really good ones if you're conscientious in your selection. Just remember it's not a substitute for personal therapy. Keep us posted.
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Post by dyinglight94 on Feb 27, 2016 21:49:58 GMT -5
Just want to die
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Post by boneheadsbolero on Feb 27, 2016 22:18:43 GMT -5
Hang in there, buddy. Try not to obsess on the bad. Think of what you have. Imagine being born with severe birth defects. Imagine being paralyzed from the neck down. Imagine being totally broke and homeless.....or any number of other truly horrific things. You have it better than you know. Plug into that. All is not lost. You have potential. You have the greatest gift of all. YOUTH. I wish I was still young. Don't feel sorry for yourself, feel sorry for me! I'm old and decrepit.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 28, 2016 1:37:05 GMT -5
Don't be down, dyinglight94! Just know that, no matter what, whether they be someone you know or someone online on an Oasis forum, there is always someone who cares. Someone who cares about your well-being! The worst thing that can possibly happen is for you to take your life. Things will get better! And remember the lyrics from that Oasis classic, Stop Crying Your Heart Out. Bet you can recite them from memory, eh? Don't despair! You'll overcome your troubles soon, and then ten years later you'll be able to laugh about them, whilst looking back at the great life you've created for yourself since.
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Post by mimmihopps on Feb 28, 2016 5:06:13 GMT -5
I haven't read the entire thread yet, but here's something I want to tell you. You can ignore this post as it's just something what you'll hear from a ramdom stranger on an internet forum. I lost one of my family members in past. He took his life by his own hands. I'm not here to judge what's good and what's bad, but I know what all the people - his loved ones - left behind had to go through it. Remember there's always, even one person on the earth who will cry and will miss you forever if you're not there anymore. Get a help, see other people, talk to them. There will always be tomorrow after today.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 28, 2016 5:17:35 GMT -5
I don't really know what to tell you as I've said pretty much all I know in my post on the first page, and as other people have told you already. So I'll just ask you what you've done with the advice you've received until now. Have you talked to someone yet? Have you been looking for a hobby or something else to pass the time with? Have you made a plan? No? I still think it's best for you to go see someone and talk to them. And if that's a step too high for you, then call one of those hotlines or join a forum. I saw some members shared a few links already. I'm currently in a very bad place myself, but it helps to think about the little things in life that make you happy. Try to write down a couple of things that make you happy every day. Also write down 3 things you like about yourself. Write down what you would like to do in life, discuss this with someone and try to make a plan. But my most important advice is: Get help and talk to someone.
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Post by davidjay on Feb 28, 2016 6:35:42 GMT -5
Some very wise advice here from Mimmi, Mean Mrs Mustard and many others. I would just like to recommend making an appointment with your doctor as soon as possible; your GP can offer advice on different ways of tackling the depression you're suffering from. They may ask you to fill in a PHQ-9 (Patient Health Questionnaire 9) form or equivalent, which is used to help diagnose depression. You can find an online version of it here. www.nhs.uk/Tools/Documents/Mood%20self-assessment.htmYou may benefit from a combination of antidepressant medication and one-to-one counselling, which I believe has been shown to be more effective in many cases than either approach in isolation. Ask about mindfulness-based cognitive therapy too. I know from experience in my own family that this can be a massive help, giving you the boost you need to start changing things for the better. I hope this helps.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 28, 2016 7:45:00 GMT -5
^ Cognitive therapy is great, but more of a help to deal with specific situations. Solution Focused Therapy (as it's called in English, apparently, according to some quick googling job) is something that could he helpful too. It's a very positive way of therapy and focuses on the solution rather than on the problem. You will focus more on the future, on what you want and what/who could help you to improve things.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 28, 2016 8:07:15 GMT -5
Hello mate, I have sent a PM but just in case you don't check them I thought I'd put it here as well. I've sent you my mobile number, if you want a chat give me a call! I'm free basically every week night. Even if you just want to talk about how good Oasis are, don't hesitate.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Feb 28, 2016 11:38:12 GMT -5
That's already been arranged for you. You'll get there soon enough. In the meantime, please, go on a date, learn an obscure skill, buy yourself a stupidly expensive meal, something. Part of me wants to die too, but I'm just trying to focus on the thousands of other things I want to do first.
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Post by davidjay on Feb 28, 2016 17:30:08 GMT -5
^ Cognitive therapy is great, but more of a help to deal with specific situations. Solution Focused Therapy (as it's called in English, apparently, according to some quick googling job) is something that could he helpful too. It's a very positive way of therapy and focuses on the solution rather than on the problem. You will focus more on the future, on what you want and what/who could help you to improve things. Ah, I must admit I hadn't heard of Solution Focused Therapy; that sounds like a really good approach. I think sometimes the analysis of the symptoms you're currently experiencing can be a sticking point, so focusing more on future plans sounds like a good contrast to that indeed.
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 29, 2016 11:20:24 GMT -5
I don't really know what to tell you as I've said pretty much all I know in my post on the first page, and as other people have told you already. So I'll just ask you what you've done with the advice you've received until now. Have you talked to someone yet? Have you been looking for a hobby or something else to pass the time with? Have you made a plan? No? I still think it's best for you to go see someone and talk to them. And if that's a step too high for you, then call one of those hotlines or join a forum. I saw some members shared a few links already. I'm currently in a very bad place myself, but it helps to think about the little things in life that make you happy. Try to write down a couple of things that make you happy every day. Also write down 3 things you like about yourself. Write down what you would like to do in life, discuss this with someone and try to make a plan. But my most important advice is: Get help and talk to someone. But the little things they make me so happy.All I want to do is live by the sea. Little things they make me so happy.But it's good it's good it's good to be free.That song has helped me out in so many situations. It always makes me think of the Gallagher situation with their father etc, what a heartfelt song.
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Post by idleroses on Feb 29, 2016 11:27:40 GMT -5
I have schizophrenia which can put me into an almost catatonic depression but I'm coping well at the moment. Right balance between medication and healthy living is key to me staying okay.
Mental illness is a curse I would not wish on anyone but I try to embrace the fact my brain works a bit differently to others. Try and stay well boys & girls!
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 29, 2016 14:53:56 GMT -5
I have schizophrenia which can put me into an almost catatonic depression but I'm coping well at the moment. Right balance between medication and healthy living is key to me staying okay. Mental illness is a curse I would not wish on anyone but I try to embrace the fact my brain works a bit differently to others. Try and stay well boys & girls! I think it's really brave that you're sharing this.
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 29, 2016 16:23:51 GMT -5
I have schizophrenia which can put me into an almost catatonic depression but I'm coping well at the moment. Right balance between medication and healthy living is key to me staying okay. Mental illness is a curse I would not wish on anyone but I try to embrace the fact my brain works a bit differently to others. Try and stay well boys & girls! That's a really great post. I have to be honest and say I've suffered from mental illness(not schizophrenia) all my life and I'm currently under the care of a psychiatrist and psychologist (which I don't find much help) . At the moment I'm refusing to take any meds as I get terrible side effects but everyday is an all mighty struggle and it's been a never ending war in my head for over 30years now. I don't think people who don't have a mental illness could ever understand the hell it is and the suffering it causes.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Feb 29, 2016 19:15:49 GMT -5
Hormons like Serotonin, which are resonating in our brains and stomaches, are also a big factor for our mental health. If you are feeling frantic you should remember that your bodily reserves might be drained. But this could be changed. Keep yourself fit and eat healthy. Spring is comming and you might even get a dose Vitamine D. Don't be a f-cking Zombie!
You can change your life but still be yourself! In this life. Just call the whole thing off and get in rehabilitation mode. Doubting yourself is a strength that will help you to change. Don't be dependent by people. You are on your own - in your world. This all is just your minds photograph. Do something for yourself: In the end you could still make a living out of ebay or selling sausages or preferably selling diving goggles on Italian beaches.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Feb 29, 2016 19:26:19 GMT -5
Just want to fly
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 29, 2016 21:18:33 GMT -5
I don't really have anything to add that anyone else here hasn't said far better or more eloquently than I could here dyinglight94 but I just wanted to say I read all of you're first post and it must have been really fucking tough to write that and I feel for you totally. Can relate to the old head on young shoulders totally too. I don't fit into any mould easily either (I'm in my mid 20's FYI). Anyway, Please stick around and give your opinions on Oasis. Especially the incredible, the amazing, mighty Be Here Now !!
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Post by idleroses on Mar 1, 2016 7:28:54 GMT -5
I have schizophrenia which can put me into an almost catatonic depression but I'm coping well at the moment. Right balance between medication and healthy living is key to me staying okay. Mental illness is a curse I would not wish on anyone but I try to embrace the fact my brain works a bit differently to others. Try and stay well boys & girls! That's a really great post. I have to be honest and say I've suffered from mental illness(not schizophrenia) all my life and I'm currently under the care of a psychiatrist and psychologist (which I don't find much help) . At the moment I'm refusing to take any meds as I get terrible side effects but everyday is an all mighty struggle and it's been a never ending war in my head for over 30years now. I don't think people who don't have a mental illness could ever understand the hell it is and the suffering it causes. Talking about it is a good start. You've survived 30 years and however low you have been you're still here so keep fighting and that goes for every other member here who suffers from mental health issues. I salute everyone who is managing to fight through the tough times. Mental health has been a silent killer for a long time and I'm glad it's being brought into the open.
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Post by idleroses on Mar 1, 2016 7:30:34 GMT -5
I've dealt with depression, anxiety and social anxiety disorder for the majority of my life. It's a real bitch. I was bullied in high school too, for many years, and interestingly enough when I went to a high school reunion years later, most of the kids didn't remember ever picking on me. One even told me that he picked on everyone. It was an issue in our school, and my senior year, a boy did bring a gun to class and killed another right there in the class room. Bullying is a terrible, awful thing, and I understand how this can scar you. Like so many others have said, I don't have any great advice. I can only tell you what I know. Getting help is essential, and if the meds aren't helping, they need to be adjusted or changed. Ongoing counseling is a must too - along with the meds. Depression is far too dangerous of a disease not to be treated correctly. It can take you down quick and without warning. It took me a long time to find the right combo of meds before I started to feel better. Don't give up though. Know that it isn't YOU, you can't help what you're going through, and you aren't alone. My social anxiety disorder often keeps me from having friendships in the "real" world, and I consider my online friends my friends. It's just a different type of relationship, and it works just great for me. You've got people here who can relate, so hang out here - we all have a lot to chat about, are happy to listen when you need to reach out. Keep us posted, alright? What a lovely and thoughtful post. So eloquent and that goes for tomlivesforever as well.
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