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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 9:49:29 GMT -5
What's interesting about this list is that it's basically a list of Noels best material of the last decade. Roll on the new single FFS! If you think Falling Down, What a Life, and Right Stuff is his "best material of the last decade" then you NEVER were an Oasis fan. Period. ....Why? Because you spent 20 YEARS with none of that dance/space jazz/electronic crap, and now, suddenly, your pretentious, tea-time pinky goes up in the air and you claim that's what Noel should be all about. And yes, I'm saying it. I'm defending the silent majority out here that don't want you people fucking with Noel's music by making him into the Chemical Brothers or Radiohead. You seriously want Noel up on stage dancing around like a lunatic like Tom Yorke?! - 'If you think Falling Down, What a Life, and Right Stuff is his "best material of the last decade" then you NEVER were an Oasis fan.' : So, what do you think is his best material of the last decade? Just out of interest.
- 'Because you spent 20 YEARS with none of that dance/space jazz/electronic crap' : All of those genres have been around for a lot longer than 20 years, and even though Noel's added those sort of styles occasionally on top of his music, his music imo still remains within the 'pop/rock' or 'alt-rock' genres. And tbh, I wouldn't call What A Life dance music or any of them particularly electronic. Plus, I think people only really call The Right Stuff 'space jazz' because it's been described that way by Noel, which in itself is just because it's got a saxophone on it.
Lastly, back to the '20 years with none of that...crap' point, it's been nearly 20 years since Noel released Teotihuacan and collaborated with The Chemical Brothers on Setting Sun and Goldie on Temper Temper, which I think is the most 'electronic' music he's ever been associated with, so it's not like this is a sudden fad that's appeared out of nowhere as you seem to be implying. - 'And yes, I'm saying it.' : Yeah, I got that from you saying it.
- 'I'm defending the silent majority out here that don't want you people fucking with Noel's music...' : How do you know you're in a silent majority if they're silent? Over 300,00 people bought his last album, so you seem to be implying that you know the opinions of at least 150,000 people. All you can say for definite is what your opinion is and those of people you know.
- '...you people fucking with Noel's music by making him into the Chemical Brothers or Radiohead' : He sounds nothing like either of those two bands atm. Neither of those two bands have sounded like each other at any point. And David Holmes, again, doesn't have much overlap in terms of sound.
I seriously doubt Noel's going to do any massive left turn for this album, at least nowhere near BHN-SOTSOG, so odds of him ending up sounding like either of those two acts are extremely small. And also, it's not people on here 'fucking with [his] music', if Noel wants to fuck with his music, he can fuck with his music. It's his music to fuck with. Irrespective of taste, whether people prefer his old sound or want something more experimental, no one apart from him and people he's hired have any chance or right to fuck with his music... - 'You seriously want Noel up on stage dancing around like a lunatic like Tom Yorke?!' : ...and even if he does end up sounding like Radiohead, how is that going to affect his stage persona?
 Take Bobby Gillespie for example. Primal Scream have changed sound more or less with every couple of albums, but he still acts the same live now as he seems to have done in recordings from 2 decades ago. So, not really getting your point there. Also, even if he starts dancing (unlikely given Noel's been standing still for most of 2 and a half decades), I don't really care. If he's not going to vary his setlist, he could at least bust out a move or two. 
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Aug 7, 2017 11:36:17 GMT -5
And yes, I'm saying it. I'm defending the silent majority out here that don't want you people fucking with Noel's music by making him into the Chemical Brothers or Radiohead. You seriously want Noel up on stage dancing around like a lunatic like Tom Yorke?! Maybe - just maybe - there's a middle ground between the guitar music Noel has been writing most of his life and what Thom Yorke usually does. Like, a huge fucking middle ground. |
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Post by matt on Aug 7, 2017 14:30:46 GMT -5
I bet @godhelpusall is a MASSIVE Kid Rock fan.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Aug 7, 2017 14:44:09 GMT -5
What's interesting about this list is that it's basically a list of Noels best material of the last decade. Roll on the new single FFS! If you think Falling Down, What a Life, and Right Stuff is his "best material of the last decade" then you NEVER were an Oasis fan. Period. ....Why? Because you spent 20 YEARS with none of that dance/space jazz/electronic crap, and now, suddenly, your pretentious, tea-time pinky goes up in the air and you claim that's what Noel should be all about. And yes, I'm saying it. I'm defending the silent majority out here that don't want you people fucking with Noel's music by making him into the Chemical Brothers or Radiohead. You seriously want Noel up on stage dancing around like a lunatic like Tom Yorke?! Some of my favorite Noël songs, along with the Ballad of the Mighty I.... Thanks. |
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Post by Derrick on Aug 7, 2017 16:24:05 GMT -5
What's interesting about this list is that it's basically a list of Noels best material of the last decade. Roll on the new single FFS! If you think Falling Down, What a Life, and Right Stuff is his "best material of the last decade" then you NEVER were an Oasis fan. Period. ....Why? Because you spent 20 YEARS with none of that dance/space jazz/electronic crap, and now, suddenly, your pretentious, tea-time pinky goes up in the air and you claim that's what Noel should be all about. And yes, I'm saying it. I'm defending the silent majority out here that don't want you people fucking with Noel's music by making him into the Chemical Brothers or Radiohead. You seriously want Noel up on stage dancing around like a lunatic like Tom Yorke?! So because we've been fans of an artist for 20-odd years, we shall not possibly like any evolution in his musical style? Go back to listening AC/DC & the Ramones on repeat, I bet for you even Marc Bolan has been fucking up with his music too much, & Bowie is the antichrist. Oh, & don't forget to write Noel a letter to let him know he's straying into a wrong path, offer him guidance back to his generic comfort zone. Thanks in advance.  |
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 7, 2017 19:49:18 GMT -5
What's interesting about this list is that it's basically a list of Noels best material of the last decade. Roll on the new single FFS! If you think Falling Down, What a Life, and Right Stuff is his "best material of the last decade" then you NEVER were an Oasis fan. Period. ....Why? Because you spent 20 YEARS with none of that dance/space jazz/electronic crap, and now, suddenly, your pretentious, tea-time pinky goes up in the air and you claim that's what Noel should be all about. And yes, I'm saying it. I'm defending the silent majority out here that don't want you people fucking with Noel's music by making him into the Chemical Brothers or Radiohead. You seriously want Noel up on stage dancing around like a lunatic like Tom Yorke?! Yep, you got me. I'm a fake. Never liked Oasis, just a bunch of monobrow thugs ripping off The Beatles. Can't stand them. My whole time spent on this forum was just an elaborate ruse, a masterplan if you will - in truth I'm a founding member of the Pretentious Music Record Corporation (PMRC for short) along with Bjork, the ghost of John Lennon, and of course Tom York himself. In this thread and many others, I have been attempting to bring down this vile, untalented "Noel Gallagher" character using all new styles of Pretentious (TM) music invented in the last five or so years, such as electronica, jazz, or production. My plan was to steer him away from classic bangers like If I Had a Gun and Lock All the Doors, and towards Pretentious Shite (TM) like Falling Down and Ballad of the Mighty I. And I would have got away with it, if it wasn't for your damningly insightful posts! I even sent Sour Mash Records the choreography of this video in the hope "Noel" would adapt it when onstage: |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 20:27:26 GMT -5
If you think Falling Down, What a Life, and Right Stuff is his "best material of the last decade" then you NEVER were an Oasis fan. Period. ....Why? Because you spent 20 YEARS with none of that dance/space jazz/electronic crap, and now, suddenly, your pretentious, tea-time pinky goes up in the air and you claim that's what Noel should be all about. And yes, I'm saying it. I'm defending the silent majority out here that don't want you people fucking with Noel's music by making him into the Chemical Brothers or Radiohead. You seriously want Noel up on stage dancing around like a lunatic like Tom Yorke?! - 'If you think Falling Down, What a Life, and Right Stuff is his "best material of the last decade" then you NEVER were an Oasis fan.' : So, what do you think is his best material of the last decade? Just out of interest.
Best material of the last decade...IMO: - You Know We Can't Go Back (that bridge and chorus, wow) - Just Let It Come Down Over Me - Don't Stop... - Dying of the Light (non-album version) - Riverman - While the Song Remains the Same Look, I'm fucking with people on here to make a point...I don't want Noel to change. Doubt he listens to me or you or anyone, but he's good right where he is...beautiful melodies. I worry that too much "modern musical" style will drown out what he does best |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 7, 2017 20:44:03 GMT -5
- 'If you think Falling Down, What a Life, and Right Stuff is his "best material of the last decade" then you NEVER were an Oasis fan.' : So, what do you think is his best material of the last decade? Just out of interest.
Best material of the last decade...IMO: - You Know We Can't Go Back (that bridge and chorus, wow) - Just Let It Come Down Over Me - Don't Stop...- Dying of the Light (non-album version) - Riverman - While the Song Remains the Same Look, I'm fucking with people on here to make a point...I don't want Noel to change. Doubt he listens to me or you or anyone, but he's good right where he is...beautiful melodies. I worry that too much "modern musical" style will drown out what he does best Say what?  We haven't even heard that. Just a shitty live recording and even that just sounds like meh. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 5:22:35 GMT -5
- 'If you think Falling Down, What a Life, and Right Stuff is his "best material of the last decade" then you NEVER were an Oasis fan.' : So, what do you think is his best material of the last decade? Just out of interest.
Best material of the last decade...IMO: - You Know We Can't Go Back (that bridge and chorus, wow) - Just Let It Come Down Over Me - Don't Stop... - Dying of the Light (non-album version) - Riverman - While the Song Remains the Same Look, I'm fucking with people on here to make a point...I don't want Noel to change. Doubt he listens to me or you or anyone, but he's good right where he is...beautiful melodies. I worry that too much "modern musical" style will drown out what he does best Cool, yeah, I see where you're coming from, and I think with the last couple of tracks you mentioned there (Riverman and While the Song Remains the Same), they're the sort of moments where you can still hear the beautiful melodies clearly, but you've also got different sounds complementing them, which imo is the best of both worlds  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 8, 2017 5:37:40 GMT -5
I don't really like Riverman that much. Absolutely hated it the first time I heard it, was so disappointed. Eventually it grew on me, but it's definitely not among my favourites. Same goes for The Right Stuff, which I like even less. Neither of them are that special.
Experimental my arse.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Aug 8, 2017 6:04:56 GMT -5
I don't really like Riverman that much. Absolutely hated it the first time I heard it, was so disappointed. Eventually it grew on me, rrbut it's definitely not among my favourites. Same goes for The Right Stuff, which I like even less. Neither of them are that special.Experimental my arse.  |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Aug 8, 2017 7:02:59 GMT -5
I don't really like Riverman that much. Absolutely hated it the first time I heard it, was so disappointed. Eventually it grew on me, but it's definitely not among my favourites. Same goes for The Right Stuff, which I like even less. Neither of them are that special. Experimental my arse.
I totally disagree, they're two of the best tracks Noel has ever released. Though Riverman could have been even better if the album version was more like the live version: faster in tempo, lighter in sound and with that glorious melody change in the chorus that fits the melancholic tone of the lyrics.
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Post by matt on Aug 8, 2017 13:28:58 GMT -5
Good point raised, but who is Tom York?
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 8, 2017 13:31:55 GMT -5
Good point raised, but who is Tom York? Lead bleep-bloopist in The Radio Heads. |
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Post by matt on Aug 8, 2017 14:03:29 GMT -5
Good point raised, but who is Tom York? Lead bleep-bloopist in The Radio Heads. Ah yes, The Radio Heads. Who could possibly forget those classic albums OK Go and Child A? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 8, 2017 14:07:14 GMT -5
Hopefully Noel dresses like Bono from the discotheque video. So hot. So hot.
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Post by matt on Aug 8, 2017 14:10:02 GMT -5
Hopefully Noel dresses like Bono from the discotheque video. So hot. So hot. I hope any potential Oasis reunion has a comeback single video with numerous crotch shots of Noel and Liam dry humping the camera. |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Aug 8, 2017 14:11:04 GMT -5
If you think Falling Down, What a Life, and Right Stuff is his "best material of the last decade" then you NEVER were an Oasis fan. Period. ....Why? Because you spent 20 YEARS with none of that dance/space jazz/electronic crap, and now, suddenly, your pretentious, tea-time pinky goes up in the air and you claim that's what Noel should be all about. And yes, I'm saying it. I'm defending the silent majority out here that don't want you people fucking with Noel's music by making him into the Chemical Brothers or Radiohead. You seriously want Noel up on stage dancing around like a lunatic like Tom Yorke?! Yep, you got me. I'm a fake. Never liked Oasis, just a bunch of monobrow thugs ripping off The Beatles. Can't stand them. My whole time spent on this forum was just an elaborate ruse, a masterplan if you will - in truth I'm a founding member of the Pretentious Music Record Corporation ( PMRC for short) along with Bjork, the ghost of John Lennon, and of course Tom York himself.  (Context: Zappa vs. the PMRC ) |
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Post by matt on Aug 8, 2017 14:48:22 GMT -5
What are people scared of exactly (or what is HE scared of)? If they (or he) were 'true Oasis fans' then surely they would be able to pick up on those Noel moments that differ from his traditional style, and notice that these are hardly avant garde experiments?
The first example that typifies a deviation from the standard Noel format is Fuckin In The Bushes. I think it's near universal opinion that that is a great track but it is very different from what Noel usually writes. Yes, it undoubtedly rocks hard and on the surface level may seem like your usual rock n roll but it also incorporates more modern techniques such as looping and sampling which gives it its relentless energy. It combines many of the tropes of electronic music with hard rock. This isn't pathetic simpering middle aged meandering pub rock bollocks that Gem and Andy would write, this is the work of a man who is actually more open minded and inventive than people think and is not averse to different forms of recording in order to enhance the song. And he's all the better for it (but as hardcore Oasis fans, surely we'd all know this.......).
The second examples that significantly differ from the usual are his collaborations - notably those ones he wrote the backing tracks for, including Paul Weller's Echoes Round The Sun and Ian Brown's Keep What Ya Got. They are respective highlights from the albums they come from, and for icons as big and as influential as Weller and Brown, that is no small feat. Taking away the vocal contributions that Weller and Brown served up on those songs, there's already more verve and tenacity than your usual middle of the road offerings he has rigidly stuck to these past number of years.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 8, 2017 14:59:32 GMT -5
What are people scared of exactly (or what is HE scared of)? If they (or he) were 'true Oasis fans' then surely they would be able to pick up on those Noel moments that differ from his traditional style, and notice that these are hardly avant garde experiments? The first example that typifies a deviation from the standard Noel format is Fuckin In The Bushes. I think it's near universal opinion that that is a great track but it is very different from what Noel usually writes. Yes, it undoubtedly rocks hard and on the surface level may seem like your usual rock n roll but it also incorporates more modern techniques such as looping and sampling which gives it its relentless energy. It combines many of the tropes of electronic music with hard rock. This isn't pathetic simpering middle aged meandering pub rock bollocks that Gem and Andy would write, this is the work of a man who is actually more open minded and inventive than people think and is not averse to different forms of recording in order to enhance the song. And he's all the better for it (but as hardcore Oasis fans, surely we'd all know this.......). The second examples that significantly differ from the usual are his collaborations - notably those ones he wrote the backing tracks for, including Paul Weller's Echoes Round The Sun and Ian Brown's Keep What Ya Got. They are respective highlights from the albums they come from, and for icons as big and as influential as Weller and Brown, that is no small feat. Taking away the vocal contributions that Weller and Brown served up on those songs, there's already more verve and tenacity than your usual middle of the road offerings he has rigidly stuck to these past number of years. Don't forget Teotihuacan! |
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Post by batfink30 on Aug 8, 2017 15:31:40 GMT -5
Fuck sake Noel, just release the album now,were all about to die in a nuclear holocaust!
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Post by discworld on Aug 9, 2017 5:46:51 GMT -5
something soon ?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 9, 2017 5:54:58 GMT -5
Read the tweet before that and the one that comes after it. Guess it has to do more with that. |
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Post by discworld on Aug 9, 2017 5:57:45 GMT -5
Read the tweet before that and the one that comes after it. Guess it has to do more with that. sorry. mea culpa |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 9, 2017 8:39:36 GMT -5
Read the tweet before that and the one that comes after it. Guess it has to do more with that. sorry. mea culpaOH MY GOD THE RIDDLER IS BACK!?!?!  |
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We haven't even heard that. Just a shitty live recording and even that just sounds like meh. 
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