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Post by mossy on Aug 4, 2017 17:42:55 GMT -5
Found someone on Twitter who's been to a lot of the stadium shows. They say that Noel did in fact sound check a new song at Twickenham. They weren't able to record it, but were able to remember some details about the song. This may coincide with what Russsell said. This was my exchange with them: Twitter: "It's upbeat, very catchy. Guitars and all. Very danceable and easy chorus. Would make a great single. Don't know about lyrics or anything as I couldnt hear it that well, that's why there's no recording either" Me: "Thanks for answering! Is there any guitar solo or any instrument that really stood out?" Twitter: "I don't remember that, the only thing that stood out to me is the chorus " Me: "was it a terribly long song or did it feel like 3, 4, 5 minutes?" Twitter: "Oh no it's a short song. It feels like single material so . Chorus is a bit like "She's got it, she does it, pa pa pa pa pa"... Hard to describe the rhythm. Don't even know if that's any part of the lyrics at all. 😂" Good stalking 👀
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 4, 2017 18:30:23 GMT -5
Was just thinking that this is first time since Be Here Now that we NO IDEA ABOUT ANY SONGS upcoming on this record. Since the SOTSOG demos leaked, us die-hard fans have always been a "few steps ahead" and knew a few tracks (demos or just song titles) before each new album. Since this album was written 100% in the studio, we are to assume that NONE of the songs we know he has in the vault are going to be on it. Unless he sneaks one on there... And for me this is a GREAT thing. I want all new and fresh material. All we got to go with is this news about Beautiful World and being Discotheque driven.
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Post by matt on Aug 4, 2017 18:52:35 GMT -5
New song rumoured to have Chemical Brothers vibes no? Wonder if that Falling Down remix they did gives us an idea (I always liked the keyboards in that remix)?
Seriously though, if Oasis and Noel wanted to be the Beatles of the 90s, they should have continued down the path of the phenomenal and weird Setting Sun.
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Post by World71R on Aug 5, 2017 0:46:55 GMT -5
And for me this is a GREAT thing. I want all new and fresh material. All we got to go with is this news about Beautiful World and being Discotheque driven. I was thinking the exact same thing. That would be really awesome if Noel came out with a song that's close to how Discotheque is. New song rumoured to have Chemical Brothers vibes no? Wonder if that Falling Down remix they did gives us an idea (I always liked the keyboards in that remix)? Seriously though, if Oasis and Noel wanted to be the Beatles of the 90s, they should have continued down the path of the phenomenal and weird Setting Sun. BHN with more of an electronic approach, and then SOTSOG being like the Kid A to BHN, would've been really cool. What would've been cool is if they would've taken more time to work on BHN and if Noel would've gone a step further and brought The Chemical Brothers in to produce BHN. That would've been very interesting.
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Post by mostlyharmless on Aug 5, 2017 8:44:46 GMT -5
Just realized Noel has finished touring Europe with U2 this week. So now it's time to get ready for first single release, do some promotion work. By the time they hit the road in October they should have 1 or 2 new songs in setlist? Would be great to play a new song to U2 fans and spread the news for the coming album.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 13:51:33 GMT -5
I was thinking the exact same thing. That would be really awesome if Noel came out with a song that's close to how Discotheque is. New song rumoured to have Chemical Brothers vibes no? Wonder if that Falling Down remix they did gives us an idea (I always liked the keyboards in that remix)? Seriously though, if Oasis and Noel wanted to be the Beatles of the 90s, they should have continued down the path of the phenomenal and weird Setting Sun. BHN with more of an electronic approach, and then SOTSOG being like the Kid A to BHN, would've been really cool. What would've been cool is if they would've taken more time to work on BHN and if Noel would've gone a step further and brought The Chemical Brothers in to produce BHN. That would've been very interesting. Why are you people SO OBSESSED with Noel doing electronic DJ shit? Why are you even Oasis fans?? Get your blips and beeps from King of Limbs and just please let Noel do what he does best: write amazing rock songs that make stadiums fall to their knees.
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Post by Jim on Aug 5, 2017 14:22:21 GMT -5
I was thinking the exact same thing. That would be really awesome if Noel came out with a song that's close to how Discotheque is. BHN with more of an electronic approach, and then SOTSOG being like the Kid A to BHN, would've been really cool. What would've been cool is if they would've taken more time to work on BHN and if Noel would've gone a step further and brought The Chemical Brothers in to produce BHN. That would've been very interesting. Why are you people SO OBSESSED with Noel doing electronic DJ shit? Why are you even Oasis fans?? Get your blips and beeps from King of Limbs and just please let Noel do what he does best: write amazing rock songs that make stadiums fall to their knees. When was the last time he wrote an amazing rock song and when the last time he had a stadium on their knees? Would that be over 8 years ago when he was in a proper stadium rock band? He is in his solo years now so how you can ask why are people Oasis fans when he himself isn't in the band! Two of his best songs were outside of Oasis when he worked with the Chemical Brothers. Maybe you need to embrace other music rather than have a go at other people!
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Post by matt on Aug 5, 2017 14:36:06 GMT -5
I was thinking the exact same thing. That would be really awesome if Noel came out with a song that's close to how Discotheque is. BHN with more of an electronic approach, and then SOTSOG being like the Kid A to BHN, would've been really cool. What would've been cool is if they would've taken more time to work on BHN and if Noel would've gone a step further and brought The Chemical Brothers in to produce BHN. That would've been very interesting. Why are you people SO OBSESSED with Noel doing electronic DJ shit? Why are you even Oasis fans?? Get your blips and beeps from King of Limbs and just please let Noel do what he does best: write amazing rock songs that make stadiums fall to their knees. Broaden your horizons.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 5, 2017 14:38:26 GMT -5
I was thinking the exact same thing. That would be really awesome if Noel came out with a song that's close to how Discotheque is. BHN with more of an electronic approach, and then SOTSOG being like the Kid A to BHN, would've been really cool. What would've been cool is if they would've taken more time to work on BHN and if Noel would've gone a step further and brought The Chemical Brothers in to produce BHN. That would've been very interesting. Why are you people SO OBSESSED with Noel doing electronic DJ shit? Why are you even Oasis fans?? Get your blips and beeps from King of Limbs and just please let Noel do what he does best: write amazing rock songs that make stadiums fall to their knees.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 5, 2017 14:39:30 GMT -5
Maybe you all just need to respect other people's tastes and opinions and accept that they might differ from yours.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 5, 2017 14:52:07 GMT -5
Maybe you all just need to respect other people's tastes and opinions and accept that they might differ from yours. A: I think Noel Gallagher is better at writing rock songs than anything else, and I don't think electronic elements would work well in his music. B: Why are you all SO OBSESSED with electronic DJ shit? Why are you Oasis fans? Get your bleeps and bloops (!) from The King of Limbs (?) and let Noel do what he does best. One of these is a respectable taste and opinion that leads to interesting discussion. The other is close-minded nonsense that belittles other people's tastes and opinions (and an entire genre of music) while sounding like it was written by the same people who once thought rock 'n' roll was all just noise.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 15:22:45 GMT -5
Why are you people SO OBSESSED with Noel doing electronic DJ shit? Why are you even Oasis fans?? Get your blips and beeps from King of Limbs and just please let Noel do what he does best: write amazing rock songs that make stadiums fall to their knees. When was the last time he wrote an amazing rock song and when the last time he had a stadium on their knees? Would that be over 8 years ago when he was in a proper stadium rock band? He is in his solo years now so how you can ask why are people Oasis fans when he himself isn't in the band! Two of his best songs were outside of Oasis when he worked with the Chemical Brothers. Maybe you need to embrace other music rather than have a go at other people! Over 8 years ago?! Did you even attend one of his solo shows?! I love Slayer....am I supposed to get chesty at Noel for not doing metal?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 15:30:07 GMT -5
I think a lot of people on here aren't Noel Gallagher fans first and foremost. There are seduced by the latest trends in music and then, and only then, get around to Noel and think he should follow suit. Electronic noises, DJ samples, and dance beats....you can find that EVERYWHERE....why do you need Noel to do this too?
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 5, 2017 15:54:27 GMT -5
I think a lot of people on here aren't Noel Gallagher fans first and foremost. There are seduced by the latest trends in music and then, and only then, get around to Noel and think he should follow suit. Electronic noises, DJ samples, and dance beats....you can find that EVERYWHERE....why do you need Noel to do this too? I'm most definitely not a Noel Gallagher fan first and foremost - I'm a fan of good music. Noel has shown in the past (and we've seen from various remixes from Amorphous Androdynous and Beyond the Wizard's Sleeve) that his songwriting can be given more life and energy by incorporating electronic elements. In the hands of a producer like David Holmes, I'd love to hear them in his next album. You seem to have an unbelievably ignorant view of electronic music. It's not a "new trend"; Aphex Twin and Autechre were creating classic IDM albums when Liam was still a nobody in Manchester. It's not "noises" or "bleeps and bloops", it's an incredibly varied and rich genre with tonnes and tonnes of sub-cultures. I don't want Noel to take influence from Aphex or Rob&Sean, but I'd love him to take some from DJ Shadow, Chemical Brothers, or maybe even a pinch of Flying Lotus.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Aug 5, 2017 16:00:04 GMT -5
Maybe you all just need to respect other people's tastes and opinions and accept that they might differ from yours. My problem with that argument is that it is almost exclusively used by people who want Noel to do something radically different. Change for change's sake isn't good, and I'd argue that the reason Noel has stuck with most of his principles for so long is that the other things he tried (like the AA thing) didn't work out that well. There are almost no songwriters and bands out there who can write songs the way Noel can, so it's not that weird an idea that he should keep doing what he's best at.
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Post by Jim on Aug 5, 2017 16:20:00 GMT -5
When was the last time he wrote an amazing rock song and when the last time he had a stadium on their knees? Would that be over 8 years ago when he was in a proper stadium rock band? He is in his solo years now so how you can ask why are people Oasis fans when he himself isn't in the band! Two of his best songs were outside of Oasis when he worked with the Chemical Brothers. Maybe you need to embrace other music rather than have a go at other people! Over 8 years ago?! Did you even attend one of his solo shows?! I love Slayer....am I supposed to get chesty at Noel for not doing metal? I've seen him solo 3 times. Two arena shows and an outdoor gig of 30,000. That cool for you? And aye, over 8 years. In fact I'd argue the last time he wrote a proper stadium defining song was Lyla, so over 12 years ago. His solo songs aren't aimed at stadiums style sing alongs, he's said it many times he wanted to move away from the Oasis sound and has done so in songs like Riverman, Ballad of the Mighty I and The Right Stuff. Even his versions of Oasis songs are stripped back compared to the originals so I have absolutely no idea what you're point is I'm afraid....
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Post by deadman on Aug 5, 2017 16:31:03 GMT -5
I love Noel, but rock songs are better sung by Liam. And Noel always seems to come across better when he expands a bit. Setting Sun is still an astonishing record.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 5, 2017 16:57:53 GMT -5
Maybe you all just need to respect other people's tastes and opinions and accept that they might differ from yours. My problem with that argument is that it is almost exclusively used by people who want Noel to do something radically different. Change for change's sake isn't good, and I'd argue that the reason Noel has stuck with most of his principles for so long is that the other things he tried (like the AA thing) didn't work out that well. There are almost no songwriters and bands out there who can write songs the way Noel can, so it's not that weird an idea that he should keep doing what he's best at. I don't really care what he does, man. As long as the songs are good I'm happy, whether that's an Everybody's On The Run kind of thing or a Setting Sun kind of thing.
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Post by tjl2992 on Aug 5, 2017 17:50:53 GMT -5
My problem with that argument is that it is almost exclusively used by people who want Noel to do something radically different. Change for change's sake isn't good, and I'd argue that the reason Noel has stuck with most of his principles for so long is that the other things he tried (like the AA thing) didn't work out that well. There are almost no songwriters and bands out there who can write songs the way Noel can, so it's not that weird an idea that he should keep doing what he's best at. I don't really care what he does, man. As long as the songs are good I'm happy, whether that's an Everybody's On The Run kind of thing or a Setting Sun kind of thing. This.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 1:50:12 GMT -5
I think a lot of people on here aren't Noel Gallagher fans first and foremost. There are seduced by the latest trends in music and then, and only then, get around to Noel and think he should follow suit. Electronic noises, DJ samples, and dance beats....you can find that EVERYWHERE....why do you need Noel to do this too? What a stupid post... You should really broaden your horizon and look for different genres. The truth is, Noel singing songs like Lock All The Doors is really boring. Rock songs doesn't really fit his voice. He's better off doing ballads and softer songs, but they also become a bit boring if there's an album full of them. That's why I've enjoyed a lot when he's done some experimenting. Psychedelic, electronic, whatever that isn't "normal". Do you dislike songs like Setting Sun, Let Forever Be and The Right Stuff because they aren't ROCK? And it seems like you think electronic music equals mainstream radio shit. There's so much more to it. In fact, there have been lots of rock musicians doing guest appearances in electronic groups such as Chemical Brothers, Death In Vegas and many others.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Aug 6, 2017 4:20:36 GMT -5
We just want Noel to do something different and good because he's been wanting to do that for 20 years. That's what Noel tried to achieve with SOTSOG, but he didn't have the songs. As soon as Oasis were done, he turned to the AA guys, and we know how that ended. He hasn't yet fulfilled his desire of making a good, "experimental by Noel's standards" album and it must be burning him. Hopefully this will be the one.
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Post by matt on Aug 6, 2017 6:14:19 GMT -5
I think a lot of people on here aren't Noel Gallagher fans first and foremost. There are seduced by the latest trends in music and then, and only then, get around to Noel and think he should follow suit. Electronic noises, DJ samples, and dance beats....you can find that EVERYWHERE....why do you need Noel to do this too? What a stupid post... You should really broaden your horizon and look for different genres. The truth is, Noel singing songs like Lock All The Doors is really boring. Rock songs doesn't really fit his voice. He's better off doing ballads and softer songs, but they also become a bit boring if there's an album full of them. That's why I've enjoyed a lot when he's done some experimenting. Psychedelic, electronic, whatever that isn't "normal". Do you dislike songs like Setting Sun, Let Forever Be and The Right Stuff because they aren't ROCK? And it seems like you think electronic music equals mainstream radio shit. There's so much more to it. In fact, there have been lots of rock musicians doing guest appearances in electronic groups such as Chemical Brothers, Death In Vegas and many others. And this is why I don't understand people's fear of Noel doing something different. At the heart of it, these songs are still evidently Noel Gallagher songs; they still align with his traditional influences and melodically speaking you can tell it's him. They are just dressed up differently. As said before, he's not doing anything avant-garde and, besides, when he has tried to recapture past glories, the results have been horrific (see Heathen Chemistry). The fact is, his best songs in the last decade have been songs that are not beholden to Oasis's glory years and are the kind of songs you wouldn't have heard on the first few Oasis album. Anything that sounds different from Noel's traditional songs have always hit the spot. The worst of Noel comes in the form of extremely derivative songs of not only his influences but crucially his peak years.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Aug 6, 2017 11:02:16 GMT -5
this should be the album version
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Post by Rolo on Aug 6, 2017 11:44:26 GMT -5
As I've said before, as long as the songs are good I don't care what they sound like, it could be an album full of acoustic ballads and I wouldn't mind as long as they are good.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 6, 2017 12:14:59 GMT -5
As I've said before, as long as the songs are good I don't care what they sound like, it could be an album full of acoustic ballads and I wouldn't mind as long as they are good. Well, yeah, but doesn't that kind of go without saying? I don't care if he does rootin' tootin' country tunes if they're good, what I'm saying is I think there's not a great chance of that happening - I think I'm more likely to like it if he adds some new (more adventurous) influences to his music.
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