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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 10:05:36 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't really want to hear a song called It's A Beautiful World right now? Seems like the opposite of where my mindset is nowadays. But maybe it's exactly what we need? Seems like it'll be hard to listen to that chorus over and over with the all the news we're constantly barraged with. Just some thoughts to spur discussion while we wait and wait and wait... I'd prefer Noel getting back to his "hopeful in the future" songwriting a la early Oasis. There is a reason people loved Oasis spirit in the early days. It was hopeful, joyous, and overall uplifting. I'll take a fresh dose of that right about now.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 2, 2017 10:13:41 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't really want to hear a song called It's A Beautiful World right now? Seems like the opposite of where my mindset is nowadays. But maybe it's exactly what we need? Seems like it'll be hard to listen to that chorus over and over with the all the news we're constantly barraged with. Just some thoughts to spur discussion while we wait and wait and wait... There's always been war, poverty, disease, hatred and all sorts of things that make our world a little bit uglier. There's enough negativity. Why let that flow over in (all) music?
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Post by spaneli on Oct 2, 2017 10:15:39 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't really want to hear a song called It's A Beautiful World right now? Seems like the opposite of where my mindset is nowadays. But maybe it's exactly what we need? Seems like it'll be hard to listen to that chorus over and over with the all the news we're constantly barraged with. Just some thoughts to spur discussion while we wait and wait and wait... There's always been war, poverty, disease, hatred and all sorts of things that make our world a little bit uglier. There's enough negativity. Why let that flow over in (all) music? Some of the biggest peace and love and escapist music happened during the Vietnam War.
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Post by dadrocker on Oct 2, 2017 10:34:10 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't really want to hear a song called It's A Beautiful World right now? Seems like the opposite of where my mindset is nowadays. But maybe it's exactly what we need? Seems like it'll be hard to listen to that chorus over and over with the all the news we're constantly barraged with. Just some thoughts to spur discussion while we wait and wait and wait... There's always been war, poverty, disease, hatred and all sorts of things that make our world a little bit uglier. There's enough negativity. Why let that flow over in (all) music? True I think it's just an age thing. I have to think of my kid now and I'm much more cognizant as an adult of the world around me than I was as a kid when I got into Oasis in the 90s. What a time that was! Noel said it best at the end of Supersonic, it was just a great time to be alive.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Oct 2, 2017 13:26:20 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't really want to hear a song called It's A Beautiful World right now? Seems like the opposite of where my mindset is nowadays. But maybe it's exactly what we need? Seems like it'll be hard to listen to that chorus over and over with the all the news we're constantly barraged with. Just some thoughts to spur discussion while we wait and wait and wait... I'd prefer Noel getting back to his "hopeful in the future" songwriting a la early Oasis. There is a reason people loved Oasis spirit in the early days. It was hopeful, joyous, and overall uplifting. I'll take a fresh dose of that right about now. Early Oasis still had very bleak, downbeat songs (mainly tucked away as B sides), often reflecting loneliness or wanting to be famous or wanting to be someplace else - reflecting Noel's state of mind at that time. I actually think the most uplifting, optimistic, joyous moment in Noel's songwriting was during the BHN period. Just about every track and B side is uplifting, upbeat, fast tempo and fairly happy lyrics, mainly reflecting what was happening in Noel's life at that period in time - It's Getting Better Man, I got The Fever, Stay Young, The Fame, My Big Mouth, All Around the World, etc. He had made it. His dreaming to be famous was over, and now he was celebrating - big time! The only downbeat tracks during this period are Don't Go Away, Fade In/Out, Angel Child and Going Nowhere (which was written many years earlier anyway), and they actually stand out from the rest of the BHN tracks, due to their bleakness.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 2, 2017 13:29:04 GMT -5
It's crazy to think that we have new Noel music coming next month.
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Post by matt on Oct 2, 2017 13:56:33 GMT -5
They also mentioned that If Love is the Law features a Brian Eno sample and Holy Mountain has samples from Ice Cream. I'm struggling to believe this now. I mean, this is the kind of stuff we always wanted Noel to do to stick it to his pretentious critics, but I feel like I'm in a parallel world reading this.
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Post by matt on Oct 2, 2017 15:04:18 GMT -5
It's crazy to think that we have new Noel music coming next month. This is one reason why I'm not super super keen to here anything immediately. I like this low key approach, announcing it only a month beforehand with very little information previously. It's not a six month wait where we let our imaginations run wild and eventually tire ourselves out. The tension is palpable and we're not getting bored this time.
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Post by matt on Oct 2, 2017 15:10:44 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't really want to hear a song called It's A Beautiful World right now? Seems like the opposite of where my mindset is nowadays. But maybe it's exactly what we need? Seems like it'll be hard to listen to that chorus over and over with the all the news we're constantly barraged with. Just some thoughts to spur discussion while we wait and wait and wait... I get that. And it's even more insulting to the intelligence when the likes of Coldplay and U2 release sub-standard try hard optimistic songs. These bands don't do happy in my opinion (only Beautiful Day is any good and sincere enough to be believable). As Bono said recently when trying to justify the mediocrity that is the new U2 single, 'joy is the hardest emotion to express in music' (I'm certainly not getting that of your new single Bono mate) and he cited Noel as one of the very few songwriters who can do that convincingly. Noel is therefore completely different, and he stands out from everyone else in this regard. Although we don't live in a beautiful world, he's the only songwriter to make me believe in a beautiful world.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 2, 2017 15:13:02 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't really want to hear a song called It's A Beautiful World right now? Seems like the opposite of where my mindset is nowadays. But maybe it's exactly what we need? Seems like it'll be hard to listen to that chorus over and over with the all the news we're constantly barraged with. Just some thoughts to spur discussion while we wait and wait and wait... I get that. And it's even more insulting to the intelligence when the likes of Coldplay and U2 release sub-standard try hard optimistic songs. These bands don't do happy in my opinion (only Beautiful Day is any good and sincere enough to be believable). As Bono said recently when trying to justify the mediocrity that is the new U2 single, 'joy is the hardest emotion to express in music' (I'm certainly not getting that of your new single Bono mate) and he cited Noel as one of the very few songwriters who can do that convincingly. Noel is therefore completely different, and he stands out from everyone else in this regard. Although we don't live in a beautiful world, he's the only songwriter to make me believe in a beautiful world. From your post I just realized I haven't even heard the new U2 single yet.
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Post by matt on Oct 2, 2017 15:15:47 GMT -5
I get that. And it's even more insulting to the intelligence when the likes of Coldplay and U2 release sub-standard try hard optimistic songs. These bands don't do happy in my opinion (only Beautiful Day is any good and sincere enough to be believable). As Bono said recently when trying to justify the mediocrity that is the new U2 single, 'joy is the hardest emotion to express in music' (I'm certainly not getting that of your new single Bono mate) and he cited Noel as one of the very few songwriters who can do that convincingly. Noel is therefore completely different, and he stands out from everyone else in this regard. Although we don't live in a beautiful world, he's the only songwriter to make me believe in a beautiful world. From your post I just realized I haven't even heard the new U2 single yet. Don't bother.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 2, 2017 15:42:27 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't really want to hear a song called It's A Beautiful World right now? Seems like the opposite of where my mindset is nowadays. But maybe it's exactly what we need? Seems like it'll be hard to listen to that chorus over and over with the all the news we're constantly barraged with. Just some thoughts to spur discussion while we wait and wait and wait... I get that. And it's even more insulting to the intelligence when the likes of Coldplay and U2 release sub-standard try hard optimistic songs. These bands don't do happy in my opinion (only Beautiful Day is any good and sincere enough to be believable). As Bono said recently when trying to justify the mediocrity that is the new U2 single, 'joy is the hardest emotion to express in music' (I'm certainly not getting that of your new single Bono mate) and he cited Noel as one of the very few songwriters who can do that convincingly. Noel is therefore completely different, and he stands out from everyone else in this regard. Although we don't live in a beautiful world, he's the only songwriter to make me believe in a beautiful world. I always loved how Noel's upbeat songs are never one-dimensionally happy - songs like Rock n Roll Star with the bleakness described in the verses, or Live Forever with its second chorus go deeper than that. They're more about accepting negative things and transcending them, which is way more relatable.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 2, 2017 16:00:28 GMT -5
I get that. And it's even more insulting to the intelligence when the likes of Coldplay and U2 release sub-standard try hard optimistic songs. These bands don't do happy in my opinion (only Beautiful Day is any good and sincere enough to be believable). As Bono said recently when trying to justify the mediocrity that is the new U2 single, 'joy is the hardest emotion to express in music' (I'm certainly not getting that of your new single Bono mate) and he cited Noel as one of the very few songwriters who can do that convincingly. Noel is therefore completely different, and he stands out from everyone else in this regard. Although we don't live in a beautiful world, he's the only songwriter to make me believe in a beautiful world. I always loved how Noel's upbeat songs are never one-dimensionally happy - songs like Rock n Roll Star with the bleakness described in the verses, or Live Forever with its second chorus go deeper than that. They're more about accepting negative things and transcending them, which is way more relatable. Yeah exactly this There's always a bit of melancholy even in Noel's more uplifting songs, and vice-versa there's almost always something quite optimistic in the saddest ones, which makes it easier to rely because in the end that's how our minds and lives work, we look for hope when there seems to be none, we're scared of losing our happiness when we're happy
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Post by World71R on Oct 2, 2017 19:35:09 GMT -5
I get that. And it's even more insulting to the intelligence when the likes of Coldplay and U2 release sub-standard try hard optimistic songs. These bands don't do happy in my opinion (only Beautiful Day is any good and sincere enough to be believable). As Bono said recently when trying to justify the mediocrity that is the new U2 single, 'joy is the hardest emotion to express in music' (I'm certainly not getting that of your new single Bono mate) and he cited Noel as one of the very few songwriters who can do that convincingly. Noel is therefore completely different, and he stands out from everyone else in this regard. Although we don't live in a beautiful world, he's the only songwriter to make me believe in a beautiful world. From your post I just realized I haven't even heard the new U2 single yet. If you do listen to it, listen to the Sci-Fi Soul Mix. It's the best version of it. The single/music video version is chopped together and the acoustic version is iffy.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 2, 2017 22:50:08 GMT -5
I'm fully expecting that we won't hear any new Noel music until the end of the month. Doesn't make much sense for him to play any before then, while he's in South America.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 2, 2017 22:54:01 GMT -5
I'm fully expecting that we won't hear any new Noel music until the end of the month. Doesn't make much sense for him to play any before then, while he's in South America. Tell that to Julia Gulia!
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Post by spaneli on Oct 2, 2017 23:02:11 GMT -5
I'm fully expecting that we won't hear any new Noel music until the end of the month. Doesn't make much sense for him to play any before then, while he's in South America. Tell that to Julia Gulia! I found that twitter account and I haven't seen anything that mentions that. That's where the three song rumor came from. But if you went back to the tweet, she never said that we'd get three songs. She only said "May they give us three songs at once tomorrow, havin it Gorilaz style." The person who reported the tweet overreacted and didn't read closely.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 2, 2017 23:05:35 GMT -5
Tell that to Julia Gulia! I found that twitter account and I haven't seen anything that mentions that. That's where the three song rumor came from. But if you went back to the tweet, she never said that we'd get three songs. She only said "May they give us three songs at once tomorrow, havin it Gorilaz style." The person who reported the tweet overreacted and didn't read closely. I'm in agreement. I also saw nothing on that timeline to make my believe any insider info was given. Maybe via back channels but not twitter.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 2, 2017 23:09:20 GMT -5
I found that twitter account and I haven't seen anything that mentions that. That's where the three song rumor came from. But if you went back to the tweet, she never said that we'd get three songs. She only said "May they give us three songs at once tomorrow, havin it Gorilaz style." The person who reported the tweet overreacted and didn't read closely. I'm in agreement. I also saw nothing on that timeline to make my believe any insider info was given. Maybe via back channels but not twitter. I also don't buy Holy Mountain being dropped on the 4th. He'll be playing in Mexico that day, and I just don't see him dropping a single when he's halfway around the world in the southern equator on the day of a show. It's far more likely that we'll get something in late October or early November. The only other option I could see, would be him debuting a single in LA on KROQ, where he debuted If I Had A Gun.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 2, 2017 23:12:00 GMT -5
I'm in agreement. I also saw nothing on that timeline to make my believe any insider info was given. Maybe via back channels but not twitter. I also don't buy Holy Mountain being dropped on the 4th. He'll be playing in Mexico that day, and I just don't see him dropping a single when he's halfway around the world in the southern equator on the day of a show. It's far more likely that we'll get something in late October or early November. The only other option I could see, would be him debuting a single in LA on KROQ, where he debuted If I Had A Gun. I have little to no hope for this week. Wednesday is an odd choice and Liam's also comes out Friday. He'd be overshadowed.
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Post by wozdareden on Oct 3, 2017 0:31:54 GMT -5
I'd prefer Noel getting back to his "hopeful in the future" songwriting a la early Oasis. There is a reason people loved Oasis spirit in the early days. It was hopeful, joyous, and overall uplifting. I'll take a fresh dose of that right about now. Early Oasis still had very bleak, downbeat songs (mainly tucked away as B sides), often reflecting loneliness or wanting to be famous or wanting to be someplace else - reflecting Noel's state of mind at that time. I actually think the most uplifting, optimistic, joyous moment in Noel's songwriting was during the BHN period. Just about every track and B side is uplifting, upbeat, fast tempo and fairly happy lyrics, mainly reflecting what was happening in Noel's life at that period in time - It's Getting Better Man, I got The Fever, Stay Young, The Fame, My Big Mouth, All Around the World, etc. He had made it. His dreaming to be famous was over, and now he was celebrating - big time! The only downbeat tracks during this period are Don't Go Away, Fade In/Out, Angel Child and Going Nowhere (which was written many years earlier anyway), and they actually stand out from the rest of the BHN tracks, due to their bleakness. Both Stay Young & AATW were written years before BHN.
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Post by wozdareden on Oct 3, 2017 1:20:02 GMT -5
Both Stay Young & AATW were written years before BHN. So was Going Nowhere. ... he wrote it in his post...
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Oct 3, 2017 1:25:19 GMT -5
Early Oasis still had very bleak, downbeat songs (mainly tucked away as B sides), often reflecting loneliness or wanting to be famous or wanting to be someplace else - reflecting Noel's state of mind at that time. I actually think the most uplifting, optimistic, joyous moment in Noel's songwriting was during the BHN period. Just about every track and B side is uplifting, upbeat, fast tempo and fairly happy lyrics, mainly reflecting what was happening in Noel's life at that period in time - It's Getting Better Man, I got The Fever, Stay Young, The Fame, My Big Mouth, All Around the World, etc. He had made it. His dreaming to be famous was over, and now he was celebrating - big time! The only downbeat tracks during this period are Don't Go Away, Fade In/Out, Angel Child and Going Nowhere (which was written many years earlier anyway), and they actually stand out from the rest of the BHN tracks, due to their bleakness. Both Stay Young & AATW were written years before BHN. I obviously know AATW was, but didn't realise Stay Young was. Either way, Noel wanted to release these types of songs during this period, along with many of the other happy-go-lucky tracks he was writing during this time. The songs were also produced in an overly optimistic fashion too.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 3, 2017 1:37:07 GMT -5
... he wrote it in his post... Whoops. Just woke up.
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Post by Evileye443945 on Oct 3, 2017 2:01:09 GMT -5
He was always going to release a single next week (week after liams album) as I said weeks ago someone I know in the marketing said this to me ages ago. He was also right with album release date being pushed back to last week of November so I have no reason to doubt I also don't buy Holy Mountain being dropped on the 4th. He'll be playing in Mexico that day, and I just don't see him dropping a single when he's halfway around the world in the southern equator on the day of a show. It's far more likely that we'll get something in late October or early November. The only other option I could see, would be him debuting a single in LA on KROQ, where he debuted If I Had A Gun. I have little to no hope for this week. Wednesday is an odd choice and Liam's also comes out Friday. He'd be overshadowed.
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