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Post by janedoe on Oct 3, 2017 2:06:50 GMT -5
He was always going to release a single next week (week after liams album) as I said weeks ago someone I know in the marketing said this to me ages ago. He was also right with album release date being pushed back to last week of November so I have no reason to doubt I have little to no hope for this week. Wednesday is an odd choice and Liam's also comes out Friday. He'd be overshadowed. So Friday next week?
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Post by Evileye443945 on Oct 3, 2017 2:12:35 GMT -5
I don't know specific days or times but I know the week after liams was the marketing plan. Whether that's Friday next week no idea. Sorry wish I had more info! He was always going to release a single next week (week after liams album) as I said weeks ago someone I know in the marketing said this to me ages ago. He was also right with album release date being pushed back to last week of November so I have no reason to doubt So Friday next week?
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Post by bt95 on Oct 3, 2017 2:33:01 GMT -5
Both Stay Young & AATW were written years before BHN. I obviously know AATW was, but didn't realise Stay Young was. Either way, Noel wanted to release these types of songs during this period, along with many of the other happy-go-lucky tracks he was writing during this time. The songs were also produced in an overly optimistic fashion too. AATW was yeh, but like you I'm not sure on Stay Young. In fact, I'm sure I read somewhere that it was written in 1996. Stand By Me was written in 94/95.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Oct 3, 2017 3:05:56 GMT -5
I obviously know AATW was, but didn't realise Stay Young was. Either way, Noel wanted to release these types of songs during this period, along with many of the other happy-go-lucky tracks he was writing during this time. The songs were also produced in an overly optimistic fashion too. AATW was yeh, but like you I'm not sure on Stay Young. In fact, I'm sure I read somewhere that it was written in 1996. Stand By Me was written in 94/95. It seems to me that there was a change of more optimistic, faster, upbeat tunes that came during WTS, and peaked during BHN, so 96 for Stay Young seems about right. DM for most part had songs which had mid-tempo, slow burning, stomping tunes (Supersonic), rather than fast and upbeat (with the exception of B side Fade Away, which I think suffers from not being produced in quite the same OTT way as what would follow during WTS and BHN.) The first of these faster batch of upbeat songs released was Some Might Say, written just after DM was released (I think), followed by Step Out and Round Are Way. After that we had the most dominant batch during BHN, with a sound that would define that period - Stay Young, I Hope I Think I Know, The Fame, I Got The Fever, It's Getting Better Man, My Big Mouth, etc. To me that is the definitive Oasis sound, yet Noel would turn his back on these types of faster songs from SOTSOG onwards, and so the best we had on offer during the Mk2 period would be the likes of Go Let it Out, Hindu Times, Layla, Shock of the Lightning, etc. They were ok, but never quite matched what Noel was writing and Owen Morris producing in the 90's. Noel sadly wouldn't really revisit this type of song again until recently, with Lock All The Doors. Anyway, I digress. Back to the topic on hand....
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Post by andymorris on Oct 3, 2017 5:47:32 GMT -5
I obviously know AATW was, but didn't realise Stay Young was. Either way, Noel wanted to release these types of songs during this period, along with many of the other happy-go-lucky tracks he was writing during this time. The songs were also produced in an overly optimistic fashion too. AATW was yeh, but like you I'm not sure on Stay Young. In fact, I'm sure I read somewhere that it was written in 1996. Stand By Me was written in 94/95. Stay young was in early tracklistings Noel made in 93. those papers were auctionned a few years ago if i remember correctly.
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Post by bt95 on Oct 3, 2017 6:44:29 GMT -5
AATW was yeh, but like you I'm not sure on Stay Young. In fact, I'm sure I read somewhere that it was written in 1996. Stand By Me was written in 94/95. Stay young was in early tracklistings Noel made in 93. those papers were auctionned a few years ago if i remember correctly. Haha that's great. Off the top of my head, Hello - well, we know that one New Stones - hmm. wonder what that is? Clearly 'Here Am I' is 'Going Nowhere', and I'd wager 'Everything's Alright' will be Step Out Being A Blue - am I right in thinking that's the riff that eventually became Morning Glory?
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Post by mossy on Oct 3, 2017 7:10:27 GMT -5
Yeah, some more news would be great now Noel, thanks.
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Post by andymorris on Oct 3, 2017 7:21:55 GMT -5
Stay young was in early tracklistings Noel made in 93. those papers were auctionned a few years ago if i remember correctly. Haha that's great. Off the top of my head, Hello - well, we know that one New Stones - hmm. wonder what that is? Clearly 'Here Am I' is 'Going Nowhere', and I'd wager 'Everything's Alright' will be Step Out Being A Blue - am I right in thinking that's the riff that eventually became Morning Glory? It's unclear what any of those unknown songs were. I guess we can only speculate. there is also a song called the Red, the White, The Blue that was supposed to be a huge hit but a bit too controversial in its lyrics. According to rumors, Noel turned it into I hope, I think, I Know.
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Post by clovious on Oct 3, 2017 7:35:42 GMT -5
AATW was yeh, but like you I'm not sure on Stay Young. In fact, I'm sure I read somewhere that it was written in 1996. Stand By Me was written in 94/95. It seems to me that there was a change of more optimistic, faster, upbeat tunes that came during WTS, and peaked during BHN, so 96 for Stay Young seems about right. DM for most part had songs which had mid-tempo, slow burning, stomping tunes (Supersonic), rather than fast and upbeat (with the exception of B side Fade Away, which I think suffers from not being produced in quite the same OTT way as what would follow during WTS and BHN.) The first of these faster batch of upbeat songs released was Some Might Say, written just after DM was released (I think), followed by Step Out and Round Are Way. After that we had the most dominant batch during BHN, with a sound that would define that period - Stay Young, I Hope I Think I Know, The Fame, I Got The Fever, It's Getting Better Man, My Big Mouth, etc. To me that is the definitive Oasis sound, yet Noel would turn his back on these types of faster songs from SOTSOG onwards, and so the best we had on offer during the Mk2 period would be the likes of Go Let it Out, Hindu Times, Layla, Shock of the Lightning, etc. They were ok, but never quite matched what Noel was writing and Owen Morris producing in the 90's. Noel sadly wouldn't really revisit this type of song again until recently, with Lock All The Doors. Anyway, I digress. Back to the topic on hand.... You're speaking my language. I Agree with everything you said.
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Post by gefe on Oct 3, 2017 7:39:35 GMT -5
If he plays a new song today ill try to record it, cant wait!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 3, 2017 7:51:58 GMT -5
If he plays a new song today ill try to record it, cant wait! and hell will freeze over if that occurs. Him playing a new song live, not you recording it.
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Post by Thomas on Oct 3, 2017 7:52:34 GMT -5
I also don't buy Holy Mountain being dropped on the 4th. He'll be playing in Mexico that day, and I just don't see him dropping a single when he's halfway around the world in the southern equator on the day of a show. It's far more likely that we'll get something in late October or early November. The only other option I could see, would be him debuting a single in LA on KROQ, where he debuted If I Had A Gun. I have little to no hope for this week. Wednesday is an odd choice and Liam's also comes out Friday. He'd be overshadowed. I guarantee you: Julia ( oasisgroupie)'s source is not a random twitter rumour. It's actually a strong, credible source. It may be wrong, dates may have changed... these things happens, but she's not talking bullshit. I too will find it weird if we get Holy Mountain tomorrow, exactly because of what spaneli said, but I have hope.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 7:55:25 GMT -5
If he plays a new song today ill try to record it, cant wait! and hell will freeze over if that occurs. Him playing a new song live, not you recording it. Why? Didn't he play a couple of things off Heathen Chemistry (Force of Nature, I think.) in Las Vegas prior to that album? And that wasn't just an album track. And not a great one I might add. I agree with you that it won't happen most likely. But there is precedent for it.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Oct 3, 2017 8:05:27 GMT -5
Nothing new on Spotify Australia.
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Post by sfsorrow on Oct 3, 2017 8:08:02 GMT -5
AATW was yeh, but like you I'm not sure on Stay Young. In fact, I'm sure I read somewhere that it was written in 1996. Stand By Me was written in 94/95. Stay young was in early tracklistings Noel made in 93. those papers were auctionned a few years ago if i remember correctly. When you say "93" you don't mean that this particular list comes from 1993, do you? I know that Noel wrote a lot of songs before DM that he purposefully saved for future albums but surely, Noel wasn't planning out a whole track listing for an album a year before DM came out. Was he?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 8:13:39 GMT -5
Stay young was in early tracklistings Noel made in 93. those papers were auctionned a few years ago if i remember correctly. When you say "93" you don't mean that this particular list comes from 1993, do you? I know that Noel wrote a lot of songs before DM that he purposefully saved for future albums but surely, Noel wasn't planning out a whole track listing for an album a year before DM came out. Was he? these are just track-listings of songs he had at the time or was considering for a demo and the like. He most certainly was not considering a track listing for album #3 in 1993.
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Post by sfsorrow on Oct 3, 2017 8:17:15 GMT -5
OK but why does it say 2nd Album at the top and not contain any Definitely Maybe (or DM B-side) tracks? My guess is this list is from late 94 or early 95 but I would be very surprised if he wrote this list in 1993.
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Post by bt95 on Oct 3, 2017 8:21:04 GMT -5
Haha that's great. Off the top of my head, Hello - well, we know that one New Stones - hmm. wonder what that is? Clearly 'Here Am I' is 'Going Nowhere', and I'd wager 'Everything's Alright' will be Step Out Being A Blue - am I right in thinking that's the riff that eventually became Morning Glory? It's unclear what any of those unknown songs were. I guess we can only speculate. there is also a song called the Red, the White, The Blue that was supposed to be a huge hit but a bit too controversial in its lyrics. According to rumors, Noel turned it into I hope, I think, I Know. Yeh I've definitely heard of 'The Red, White and Blue' - I think that was judged a bit too 'Britain first' purely because of its title or something. Pretty sure 'Here Am I' and 'Everything's Alright' are Going Nowhere and Step Out, respectively. 'Being A Blue' was the song that I think was going to be recorded as an official song for Man City, but Noel scrapped that when he wrote new lyrics. But, I'm not sure if it became Morning Glory or Acquiesce - pretty sure it's one of the two, though.
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 3, 2017 8:22:00 GMT -5
Surely he wrote that in the 80's?
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Post by brumoscardo on Oct 3, 2017 8:24:58 GMT -5
Stay young was in early tracklistings Noel made in 93. those papers were auctionned a few years ago if i remember correctly. Haha that's great. Off the top of my head, Hello - well, we know that one New Stones - hmm. wonder what that is? Clearly 'Here Am I' is 'Going Nowhere', and I'd wager 'Everything's Alright' will be Step Out Being A Blue - am I right in thinking that's the riff that eventually became Morning Glory? I bet New Stones is Hey Now, mainly because it looks like it's from the recordings we had released for the remastered "demos"
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Post by andymorris on Oct 3, 2017 8:25:44 GMT -5
Stay young was in early tracklistings Noel made in 93. those papers were auctionned a few years ago if i remember correctly. When you say "93" you don't mean that this particular list comes from 1993, do you? I know that Noel wrote a lot of songs before DM that he purposefully saved for future albums but surely, Noel wasn't planning out a whole track listing for an album a year before DM came out. Was he? Those tracklistings are believed to have been written in 93, so yea, he had two albums planned even before Oasis released a single song. There was a pic of another tracklisting but i cant find it, they are old now (maybe 10+ years since the auction has taken place). It was all in Noel's notebook, along with many song titles and lyrics. here is the story from NME back then: www.nme.com/news/music/noel-gallagher-377-1399621full list of unreleased songs and infos on the Noel's last updated 1993 notebook : oasisinfo.wikidot.com/noel-s-notebookSurely there are experts on here who could really tell the whole story, my memory has been used for something else
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Post by Plantpot on Oct 3, 2017 8:39:58 GMT -5
OK but why does it say 2nd Album at the top and not contain any Definitely Maybe (or DM B-side) tracks? My guess is this list is from late 94 or early 95 but I would be very surprised if he wrote this list in 1993. If I recall correctly, Noel mentioned at some point that he loosely planned the first three albums way in advance. I agree with andymorris that this image captures an entry from 1993. Cheers.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 3, 2017 8:48:41 GMT -5
I have little to no hope for this week. Wednesday is an odd choice and Liam's also comes out Friday. He'd be overshadowed. I guarantee you: Julia ( oasisgroupie)'s source is not a random twitter rumour. It's actually a strong, credible source. It may be wrong, dates may have changed... these things happens, but she's not talking bullshit. I too will find it weird if we get Holy Mountain tomorrow, exactly because of what spaneli said, but I have hope. My feelings on this week have nothing to do with Julia. I said the same thing last week long before Julia appeared with her potential news.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 3, 2017 8:51:08 GMT -5
and hell will freeze over if that occurs. Him playing a new song live, not you recording it. Why? Didn't he play a couple of things off Heathen Chemistry (Force of Nature, I think.) in Las Vegas prior to that album? And that wasn't just an album track. And not a great one I might add. I agree with you that it won't happen most likely. But there is precedent for it. HC? 2002? That was another lifetime ago. Internet was still mostly dialup back then. There was no YouTube. No streaming. Harder to share videos back in 2002 so artists could get away playing new material to test work it prior to an album dropping. Most artists wouldn’t dare do that today. It’ll be shared everywhere within hours. I was at that Vegas show. Nobody was recording it. And if they did it was prob a shitty audio file.
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Post by Thomas on Oct 3, 2017 8:58:05 GMT -5
I guarantee you: Julia ( oasisgroupie )'s source is not a random twitter rumour. It's actually a strong, credible source. It may be wrong, dates may have changed... these things happens, but she's not talking bullshit. I too will find it weird if we get Holy Mountain tomorrow, exactly because of what spaneli said, but I have hope. My feelings on this week have nothing to do with Julia. I said the same thing last week long before Julia appeared with her potential news. Oh, sorry, I was referring to the "Come On Julia!!!" posts
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