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Post by Gas Panic on Sept 29, 2017 10:57:20 GMT -5
I'd be very surprised if Noel releases the single next week and I'm just not on board with the argument that he would do it just to piss Liam off. Two reasons: 1. He's been vocal in the past about how it is unfair for two competing bands to release a single at the same time (there was once a little single called Country House...) 2. He seems to be at a point in his life (and has been there for about seven years now) where he'd rather not think about or talk about Liam. Releasing a single at the same time would push a conflict into the spotlight that he seems dead set on avoiding. I disagree with your second point. Noel is very happy to slate Liam whenever he has a new album out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 11:12:00 GMT -5
5pm UK time for the new single?As everyone finishes work and starts getting in the mood for the weekend Noel drops the new single? That would be very exciting, especially for those who have got gig tickets. It could also be 9am next friday just to piss Liam off. 5pm's been and now it's gone........
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Post by sfsorrow on Sept 29, 2017 11:36:31 GMT -5
I'd be very surprised if Noel releases the single next week and I'm just not on board with the argument that he would do it just to piss Liam off. Two reasons: 1. He's been vocal in the past about how it is unfair for two competing bands to release a single at the same time (there was once a little single called Country House...) 2. He seems to be at a point in his life (and has been there for about seven years now) where he'd rather not think about or talk about Liam. Releasing a single at the same time would push a conflict into the spotlight that he seems dead set on avoiding. I disagree with your second point. Noel is very happy to slate Liam whenever he has a new album out. When he's asked about it, he gives his honest opinion like anything else but he doesn't go out of his way to discuss his music, does he?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 29, 2017 11:36:37 GMT -5
Julia said October 4th, no? I have no idea what to believe. Oct 4 is a Wednesday and 2 days before Liam’s album. Doesn’t seem bright to me.
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Post by batfink30 on Sept 29, 2017 11:42:40 GMT -5
Julia said October 4th, no? I have no idea what to believe. Oct 4 is a Wednesday and 2 days before Liam’s album. Doesn’t seem bright to me. CHART BATTLE! POTATO vs MR ANGRY!!
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Post by neila83 on Sept 29, 2017 11:54:32 GMT -5
Julia said October 4th, no? I have no idea what to believe. Oct 4 is a Wednesday and 2 days before Liam’s album. Doesn’t seem bright to me. I thought the same,but trying to their into their heads if that is the plan, maybe the idea is that releasing a single and an album in the same week gets all the benefits of the PR it creates, without the downsides of competing for sales and chart position if they were both releasing a single/album. Maybe it isn't as foolish as we thought...? A whole load of media is kicked up, no potential for anyone losing face, and no canibalising of sales.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Sept 29, 2017 11:55:07 GMT -5
I'd be very surprised if Noel releases the single next week and I'm just not on board with the argument that he would do it just to piss Liam off. Two reasons: 1. He's been vocal in the past about how it is unfair for two competing bands to release a single at the same time (there was once a little single called Country House...) 2. He seems to be at a point in his life (and has been there for about seven years now) where he'd rather not think about or talk about Liam. Releasing a single at the same time would push a conflict into the spotlight that he seems dead set on avoiding. I disagree with your second point. Noel is very happy to slate Liam whenever he has a new album out. I think you've got that the wrong way round.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 29, 2017 11:57:04 GMT -5
I have no idea what to believe. Oct 4 is a Wednesday and 2 days before Liam’s album. Doesn’t seem bright to me. I thought the same,but trying to their into their heads if that is the plan, maybe the idea is that releasing a single and an album in the same week gets all the benefits of the PR it creates, without the downsides of competing for sales and chart position if they were both releasing a single/album. Maybe it isn't as foolish as we thought...? A whole load of media is kicked up, no potential for anyone losing face, and no canibalising of sales. It feels like this week is more about them trying to sell tickets for the gigs. The October 4th could be more like a teaser than a single, essentially used to push the live gigs.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Sept 29, 2017 11:59:08 GMT -5
I have no idea what to believe. Oct 4 is a Wednesday and 2 days before Liam’s album. Doesn’t seem bright to me. CHART BATTLE! POTATO vs MR ANGRY!! Forget bodypopping to 'Supersonic' on TOTP 1994, the brothers need a chart dance off
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Post by batfink30 on Sept 29, 2017 12:11:37 GMT -5
CHART BATTLE! POTATO vs MR ANGRY!! Forget bodypopping to 'Supersonic' on TOTP 1994, the brothers need a chart dance off Noel is "Beady Lite" now apparently!!
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Post by guigsysEstring on Sept 29, 2017 12:33:06 GMT -5
Noel is "Beady Lite" now apparently!! You mean a less Republican version of Beady’s Here Now ?
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Post by batfink30 on Sept 29, 2017 12:38:12 GMT -5
Noel is "Beady Lite" now apparently!! You mean a less Republican version of Beady’s Here Now ? Hehehehe
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 29, 2017 12:38:53 GMT -5
Current mood
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 12:47:58 GMT -5
So nothing new today, eh? Right.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Sept 29, 2017 12:48:10 GMT -5
Hehehehe We've discussed this at lengths on the forum before and there are multiple reasons for the results, but Hillary Clinton must be nonplussed as to how she lost to Donald Trump. Surely when the next election rolls around and on the strength of his term in office so far (even though it is less than a year) the DNC can field a candidate capable of taking the Presidency from Trump?* *Based on the assumption he lasts a full term.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Sept 29, 2017 12:49:17 GMT -5
So nothing new today, eh? Right. No mate I'm back and still derailing threads with political/inane rubbish
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Post by PartlyCloudlike on Sept 29, 2017 12:59:02 GMT -5
lol "Beady lite" has to be taken as a compliment. It means you contain less Beady Eye than the original.
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Post by lau on Sept 29, 2017 15:54:22 GMT -5
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Post by guigsysEstring on Sept 29, 2017 16:11:40 GMT -5
Chris Martin would have inducted them with Noel- If not it'll be Tom & Serge with a BE/Kasabian lineup performing following Liam's "refreshingly frank" induction speech!
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Post by matt on Sept 29, 2017 17:36:20 GMT -5
Dare I say it, but are these small hooks that we've briefly heard stronger than anything we've heard from Noel in a long time? In isolation they might not mean much, but they have been going through my mind ever since I first heard them. Maybe I'm just struck by the more driven sound in melodic style and instrumentation, but the fact it seems less, erm, 'ponderous' is hopefully going to make the new album a breath of fresh air.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 29, 2017 17:50:15 GMT -5
Every fractured band says that until they're inducted. 80% of the time they end getting back together anyways. I've actually thought that a Rock n Roll Hall of Fame induction would be enough to get them back together. The weight of the ceremony would be enough, and I still believe that. The fact that the hall of fame contacted him, a couple of years before they've even come up for induction says that their chances are better than most people on here think. And I've said for a long time that they have a much better case than most people think. -Two unequivocal best of the decade type albums -Large record sales -Large musical influence -And a few mega hits. In a period where the rock band has significantly declined, their case looks better and better with each year.
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Post by anika on Sept 29, 2017 18:38:52 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 29, 2017 18:51:53 GMT -5
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Post by mystoryisgory on Sept 29, 2017 18:58:58 GMT -5
We need a Kanye/Noel collaboration. Now!!!
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Post by spaneli on Sept 29, 2017 18:59:00 GMT -5
Critically they're not seen as that. There are 3 main criteria for the hall of fame: critically acclaimed work, influence, and success (which is the unofficial). Definitely Maybe and What's the Story Morning Glory are highly seminal works that have always had universal praise. Some artists in the rock n roll hall of fame have only 1 universally truly great album. Oasis has two, and the two are accept by both the British and American music press. They have influence in spades, considering that just about every British band has cited them as an influence, and some American ones too. Heck, if you did a top 10 bands of the last 20 years, at least four of them would cite Oasis as an influence: the Arctic Monkeys, Maroon 5, Coldplay, and the Killers. Commercial success. Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova are seismic songs. If the Smiths had hits as big as those in the US, they would be in the hall. Also, though DLBIA isn't as big as a hit as those, unfortunately the Manchester bombing reignited a big interest in that song, even in the US. Plus, Oasis next to U2, were the biggest British band of the 90s. Them U2 and Radiohead were the only ones that really created any semblance of world wide acclaim and chart success (consistently), and them and Radiohead were the only two to originate in the 90s. Lastly, the decline of rock music has actually helped Oasis' case. If you look at the upcoming artists who would conceivably be up for induction, the field begins to narrow very quickly. In the next 10 years, there won't be that many out-and-out rock bands going in. Also, as record sales and concert sales have declined, Oasis being one of the last bands to really put up mega numbers becomes more impressive by the year. If you stack Oasis' case with other bands, currently in the Hall of Fame, they would be a mid-tier band, but they would definitely deserve to be in. And I believe, though they probably wouldn't make it in on the first ballot, that they'll eventually receive induction.
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