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Post by glider on Jun 7, 2016 17:43:39 GMT -5
Almost close enough to punch him! You should've.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 8, 2016 6:13:00 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Jun 9, 2016 14:09:58 GMT -5
My brother went to the Glasgow show on Tuesday - hated the album, bought tickets before they released the album the cheeky bastards and attended with a heavy heart.
BUT, he came away blown away by their performances once again - their acoustic slots of hidden gems like See You Soon silenced the entire crowd and you could cut the atmosphere with a knife. Whatever shite they spew out these days into the charts, their live performances still deliver.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 14:29:40 GMT -5
coldplay is awesome, their live performances are amazing 99% of the time, the new album mainly suffers from poor production imo, everglow being an example of that, sounds great live, hymn for the weekend is the worst thing about it imo, just main stream tack.
I was listening to glastonbury 2011 the other day and they are great, songs like the scientist, violet hill, fix you, yellow carry really well, I tend to find their more happy songs if you like tend to come off more cheesy because theyve tried to move away from being that band.
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Post by matt on Jun 9, 2016 14:39:52 GMT -5
coldplay is awesome, their live performances are amazing 99% of the time, the new album mainly suffers from poor production imo, everglow being an example of that, sounds great live, hymn for the weekend is the worst thing about it imo, just main stream tack. I was listening to glastonbury 2011 the other day and they are great, songs like the scientist, violet hill, fix you, yellow carry really well, I tend to find their more happy songs if you like tend to come off more cheesy because theyve tried to move away from being that band. Oh they still absolutely smash it out of the park live - quite a number of songs from Head Full Of Dreams and Mylo Xyloto sound unbelievably superior live. Sadly, one of the reasons for that is that they spoil their album tracks in a hamfisted attempt to put contemporary sounds on there. So, Jonny Buckland's guitar playing - and he's a brilliant guitarist - is obscured by needless overproduction. Live, they have to rely solely on the more organic structure and sound of a four piece band, so this is where Buckland's deft playing comes in. Two examples are Hurts Like Heaven and Up & Up - they sound like perfect guitar pop in a stadium. He's all over those tracks live, and they're more rocking as a result. Less kitsch sounding and with loads more vigour to it. I'm genuine in the belief that I think Coldplay can do pop - it's not merely yearning for their earlier alternative rock origins, but actual pop. But it has to be guitar pop - and whatever anyone says, Coldplay are not guitar pop at the minute (on record at least). They don't sound like band at all because, like I said, they drown themselves in needless cheap sounds.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 14:47:26 GMT -5
coldplay is awesome, their live performances are amazing 99% of the time, the new album mainly suffers from poor production imo, everglow being an example of that, sounds great live, hymn for the weekend is the worst thing about it imo, just main stream tack. I was listening to glastonbury 2011 the other day and they are great, songs like the scientist, violet hill, fix you, yellow carry really well, I tend to find their more happy songs if you like tend to come off more cheesy because theyve tried to move away from being that band. Oh they still absolutely smash it out of the park live - quite a number of songs from Head Full Of Dreams and Mylo Xyloto sound unbelievably superior live. Sadly, one of the reasons for that is that they spoil their album tracks in a hamfisted attempt to put contemporary sounds on there. So, Jonny Buckland's guitar playing - and he's a brilliant guitarist - is obscured by needless overproduction. Live, they have to rely solely on the more organic structure and sound of a four piece band, so this is where Buckland's deft playing comes in. Two examples are Hurts Like Heaven and Up & Up - they sound like perfect guitar pop in a stadium. He's all over those tracks live, and they're more rocking as a result. Less kitsch sounding and with loads more vigour to it. I'm genuine in the belief that I think Coldplay can do pop - it's not merely yearning for their earlier alternative rock origins, but actual pop. But it has to be guitar pop - and whatever anyone says, Coldplay are not guitar pop at the minute (on record at least). They don't sound like band at all because, like I said, they drown themselves in needless cheap sounds. everglow is probably up there with fix you etc.....live, I seen many people say the album version just lacks any energy and sounds more like a demo take, I remember I heard it on the radio one day and was quite unimpressed with chris vocals, thought it was just a bad live performance but was the actual album version. most of their songs are the same tbh, certainly from the later albums, they would be much better just recording the songs like they play them live, they dont need to to overproduce it.
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Post by batfink30 on Jun 9, 2016 17:57:27 GMT -5
My brother went to the Glasgow show on Tuesday - hated the album, bought tickets before they released the album the cheeky bastards and attended with a heavy heart. BUT, he came away blown away by their performances once again - their acoustic slots of hidden gems like See You Soon silenced the entire crowd and you could cut the atmosphere with a knife. Whatever shite they spew out these days into the charts, their live performances still deliver. Yeah, I was at Hampden. As I said, it was good but just too mainstream and poppy for me. Some of it was amazing and Up&Up was great, some was awful, like "Hymn".I (embarrassingly) saw Take That at Hampden a few years ago and you'd be hard pushed to notice a difference in "mainstreamness" of music. U2 still easily have it for me as best live act I've ever seen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 18:04:42 GMT -5
Now, I've listened to their first two albums. They're good. Not masterpieces, but good. And that's the problem cos' I think it's easily their two best albums. I don't understand all the fuss about that band. Oasis would have released an album as bad as Ghost Stories or Mylo Xyloto (or the last one) critics, musical lovers would have burnt them. Yeah, it's even worse than HC or DBTT, and by a big margin.
And I don't understand why that band is constently cited as the best of the 2000's. Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Artic Monkeys, The Coral, Kasabian, The Divine Comedy, Sigur Ros, The Strokes, etc have all released better albums than Coldplay in noughties, imo.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 10, 2016 6:17:23 GMT -5
Now, I've listened to their first two albums. They're good. Not masterpieces, but good. And that's the problem cos' I think it's easily their two best albums. I don't understand all the fuss about that band. Oasis would have released an album as bad as Ghost Stories or Mylo Xyloto (or the last one) critics, musical lovers would have burnt them. Yeah, it's even worse than HC or DBTT, and by a big margin. And I don't understand why that band is constently cited as the best of the 2000's. Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Artic Monkeys, The Coral, Kasabian, The Divine Comedy, Sigur Ros, The Strokes, etc have all released better albums than Coldplay in noughties, imo. Hot Take: Coldplay were never better than Arcade Fire or Radiohead. Not for a single day in either band's history.
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 10, 2016 9:10:34 GMT -5
Now, I've listened to their first two albums. They're good. Not masterpieces, but good. And that's the problem cos' I think it's easily their two best albums. I don't understand all the fuss about that band. Oasis would have released an album as bad as Ghost Stories or Mylo Xyloto (or the last one) critics, musical lovers would have burnt them. Yeah, it's even worse than HC or DBTT, and by a big margin. And I don't understand why that band is constently cited as the best of the 2000's. Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Artic Monkeys, The Coral, Kasabian, The Divine Comedy, Sigur Ros, The Strokes, etc have all released better albums than Coldplay in noughties, imo. Hot Take: Coldplay were never better than Arcade Fire or Radiohead. Not for a single day in either band's history. In 2008, they were definitely ahead of Arcade Fire for me. Coldplay had just reinvented themselves with the biggest and best album of the year, and were at their all-time artistic peak. At this time, Arcade Fire's last album was the shaky Neon Bible, which is still their worst, and the Canadians wouldn't even release an album for another two years. Hard to put them as the better band in that time.
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Jun 10, 2016 9:38:15 GMT -5
Just listening to Coldplay Parachutes, not a bad track on the album. What the fuck happened to Coldplay?
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 10, 2016 12:51:37 GMT -5
Now, I've listened to their first two albums. They're good. Not masterpieces, but good. And that's the problem cos' I think it's easily their two best albums. I don't understand all the fuss about that band. Oasis would have released an album as bad as Ghost Stories or Mylo Xyloto (or the last one) critics, musical lovers would have burnt them. Yeah, it's even worse than HC or DBTT, and by a big margin. And I don't understand why that band is constently cited as the best of the 2000's. Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Artic Monkeys, The Coral, Kasabian, The Divine Comedy, Sigur Ros, The Strokes, etc have all released better albums than Coldplay in noughties, imo. Mylo Xyloto utterly destroys Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe the Truth IMO. Charlie Brown alone has more energy than both of those albums combined. Ghost Stories I'd say is slightly better than Don't Believe the Truth, but they're both very forgettable. For me, Coldplay were the third best band of the 00's, behind Radiohead and Sigur Ros. I'd give them edge over Arcade Fire due to it being 3-2 in Coldplay's favour for great albums (Parachutes, A Rush of Blood to the Head, Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends Vs. Funeral and The Suburbs) and 1-1 on not-as-good albums (X&Y, Neon Bible). Although really, if you don't care for Viva la Vida I don't think you'll ever be a fan - that's probably in my ten favourite albums ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 12:57:18 GMT -5
Now, I've listened to their first two albums. They're good. Not masterpieces, but good. And that's the problem cos' I think it's easily their two best albums. I don't understand all the fuss about that band. Oasis would have released an album as bad as Ghost Stories or Mylo Xyloto (or the last one) critics, musical lovers would have burnt them. Yeah, it's even worse than HC or DBTT, and by a big margin. And I don't understand why that band is constently cited as the best of the 2000's. Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Artic Monkeys, The Coral, Kasabian, The Divine Comedy, Sigur Ros, The Strokes, etc have all released better albums than Coldplay in noughties, imo. Mylo Xyloto utterly destroys Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe the Truth IMO. Charlie Brown alone has more energy than both of those albums combined. Ghost Stories I'd say is slightly better than Don't Believe the Truth, but they're both very forgettable. For me, Coldplay were the third best band of the 00's, behind Radiohead and Sigur Ros. I'd give them edge over Arcade Fire due to it being 3-2 in Coldplay's favour for great albums (Parachutes, A Rush of Blood to the Head, Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends Vs. Funeral and The Suburbs) and 1-1 on not-as-good albums (X&Y, Neon Bible). Although really, if you don't care for Viva la Vida I don't think you'll ever be a fan - that's probably in my ten favourite albums ever. As you said, I just think they're not for me. But at least, I would have tried to get into
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 13:00:08 GMT -5
Coldplay is what happens when you try to have a wank in the ocean.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jun 10, 2016 13:56:16 GMT -5
Now, I've listened to their first two albums. They're good. Not masterpieces, but good. And that's the problem cos' I think it's easily their two best albums. I don't understand all the fuss about that band. Oasis would have released an album as bad as Ghost Stories or Mylo Xyloto (or the last one) critics, musical lovers would have burnt them. Yeah, it's even worse than HC or DBTT, and by a big margin. And I don't understand why that band is constently cited as the best of the 2000's. Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Artic Monkeys, The Coral, Kasabian, The Divine Comedy, Sigur Ros, The Strokes, etc have all released better albums than Coldplay in noughties, imo. Mylo Xyloto utterly destroys Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe the Truth IMO. Charlie Brown alone has more energy than both of those albums combined. Ghost Stories I'd say is slightly better than Don't Believe the Truth, but they're both very forgettable. For me, Coldplay were the third best band of the 00's, behind Radiohead and Sigur Ros. I'd give them edge over Arcade Fire due to it being 3-2 in Coldplay's favour for great albums (Parachutes, A Rush of Blood to the Head, Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends Vs. Funeral and The Suburbs) and 1-1 on not-as-good albums (X&Y, Neon Bible). Although really, if you don't care for Viva la Vida I don't think you'll ever be a fan - that's probably in my ten favourite albums ever. Agree. Mylo Xyloto may be one of Coldplay's weaker albums (not weakest, that'd be their latest, obviously), but it's definitely not as bad as HC and DBTT. For me they were definitely one of the best bands of the zeroes as well. One of the most consistent too. And also agree on the Viva La Vida bit. LOVE that album.
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Post by underneaththesky on Jun 10, 2016 14:21:23 GMT -5
only watched 2 new vids back when they were posted here and what the fuck happened to them??
this was phenomenal:
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 11, 2016 3:59:44 GMT -5
Now, I've listened to their first two albums. They're good. Not masterpieces, but good. And that's the problem cos' I think it's easily their two best albums. I don't understand all the fuss about that band. Oasis would have released an album as bad as Ghost Stories or Mylo Xyloto (or the last one) critics, musical lovers would have burnt them. Yeah, it's even worse than HC or DBTT, and by a big margin. And I don't understand why that band is constently cited as the best of the 2000's. Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Artic Monkeys, The Coral, Kasabian, The Divine Comedy, Sigur Ros, The Strokes, etc have all released better albums than Coldplay in noughties, imo. Mylo Xyloto utterly destroys Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe the Truth IMO. Charlie Brown alone has more energy than both of those albums combined. Ghost Stories I'd say is slightly better than Don't Believe the Truth, but they're both very forgettable. For me, Coldplay were the third best band of the 00's, behind Radiohead and Sigur Ros. I'd give them edge over Arcade Fire due to it being 3-2 in Coldplay's favour for great albums (Parachutes, A Rush of Blood to the Head, Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends Vs. Funeral and The Suburbs) and 1-1 on not-as-good albums (X&Y, Neon Bible). Although really, if you don't care for Viva la Vida I don't think you'll ever be a fan - that's probably in my ten favourite albums ever. Mylo Xyloto has never destroyed anything except my belief that Coldplay could do anything good again. Its embarassing bar a couple of songs and marks there decent into the pop music popularity contest.
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 11, 2016 5:27:53 GMT -5
Mylo Xyloto utterly destroys Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe the Truth IMO. Charlie Brown alone has more energy than both of those albums combined. Ghost Stories I'd say is slightly better than Don't Believe the Truth, but they're both very forgettable. For me, Coldplay were the third best band of the 00's, behind Radiohead and Sigur Ros. I'd give them edge over Arcade Fire due to it being 3-2 in Coldplay's favour for great albums (Parachutes, A Rush of Blood to the Head, Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends Vs. Funeral and The Suburbs) and 1-1 on not-as-good albums (X&Y, Neon Bible). Although really, if you don't care for Viva la Vida I don't think you'll ever be a fan - that's probably in my ten favourite albums ever. Mylo Xyloto has never destroyed anything except my belief that Coldplay could do anything good again. Its embarassing bar a couple of songs and marks there decent into the pop music popularity contest. I used to think like that, but A Head Full of Dreams really puts things in perspective. Mylo was never one of their better albums, but at least it still feels like a band - Jonny in particular really shines on that record. If you listen to the instrumentals - even on songs like Princess of China - there's still a lot going from each member. Plus, I actually enjoy Eno's filigreed production and I think the album shows Martin still in full command of his melodic genius. I'd give it a 7/10. I'd enjoy it a lot more with this tracklist though: 1. Hurts Like Heaven [Inc. Mylo Xyloto] 2. Paradise 3. Charlie Brown 4. Every Teardrop is a Waterfall [Inc. M.M.I.X] 5. Major Minus 6. U.F.O 7. Princess of China 8. Moving to Mars 9. Don't Let it Break Your Heart [Inc. A Hopeful Transmission] 10. Up With the Birds
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jun 11, 2016 6:05:30 GMT -5
Shame that one of the best songs on that album was a rip off.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 11, 2016 6:54:51 GMT -5
Now, I've listened to their first two albums. They're good. Not masterpieces, but good. And that's the problem cos' I think it's easily their two best albums. I don't understand all the fuss about that band. Oasis would have released an album as bad as Ghost Stories or Mylo Xyloto (or the last one) critics, musical lovers would have burnt them. Yeah, it's even worse than HC or DBTT, and by a big margin. And I don't understand why that band is constently cited as the best of the 2000's. Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Artic Monkeys, The Coral, Kasabian, The Divine Comedy, Sigur Ros, The Strokes, etc have all released better albums than Coldplay in noughties, imo. Mylo Xyloto utterly destroys Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe the Truth IMO. Charlie Brown alone has more energy than both of those albums combined. Ghost Stories I'd say is slightly better than Don't Believe the Truth, but they're both very forgettable. For me, Coldplay were the third best band of the 00's, behind Radiohead and Sigur Ros. I'd give them edge over Arcade Fire due to it being 3-2 in Coldplay's favour for great albums (Parachutes, A Rush of Blood to the Head, Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends Vs. Funeral and The Suburbs) and 1-1 on not-as-good albums (X&Y, Neon Bible). Although really, if you don't care for Viva la Vida I don't think you'll ever be a fan - that's probably in my ten favourite albums ever. I don't know, man, I'd personally have Lyla and Idle over Charlie Brown - or anything off Mylo Xylophone, for that matter - any day. Any fucking day of the week. Even on a Tuesday!
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 11, 2016 7:02:43 GMT -5
Mylo Xyloto utterly destroys Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe the Truth IMO. Charlie Brown alone has more energy than both of those albums combined. Ghost Stories I'd say is slightly better than Don't Believe the Truth, but they're both very forgettable. For me, Coldplay were the third best band of the 00's, behind Radiohead and Sigur Ros. I'd give them edge over Arcade Fire due to it being 3-2 in Coldplay's favour for great albums (Parachutes, A Rush of Blood to the Head, Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends Vs. Funeral and The Suburbs) and 1-1 on not-as-good albums (X&Y, Neon Bible). Although really, if you don't care for Viva la Vida I don't think you'll ever be a fan - that's probably in my ten favourite albums ever. I don't know, man, I'd personally have Lyla and Idle over Charlie Brown - or anything off Mylo Xylophone, for that matter - any day. Any fucking day of the week. Even on a Tuesday! Idle? Yes. Lyla? No chance. And then you have to factor in the other songs: Hurts Like Heaven Paradise Every Teardrop is a Waterfall Major Minus Don't Let it Break Your Heart Up With the Birds VS Let there be Love Turn up the Sun err...Part of the Queue? Mylo might be overly produced and too pop-ish for some, but it's still full of energy and colour - and bursting with singes, choruses, and guitar solos. I'll take it over the almost unbroken drab-ness of DBTT on any Tuesday you care to mention.
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Post by matt on Jun 11, 2016 7:09:38 GMT -5
I don't know, man, I'd personally have Lyla and Idle over Charlie Brown - or anything off Mylo Xylophone, for that matter - any day. Any fucking day of the week. Even on a Tuesday! Idle? Yes. Lyla? No chance. And then you have to factor in the other songs: Hurts Like Heaven Paradise Every Teardrop is a Waterfall Major Minus Don't Let it Break Your Heart Up With the Birds VS Let there be Love Turn up the Sun err...Part of the Queue? Mylo might be overly produced and too pop-ish for some, but it's still full of energy and colour - and bursting with singes, choruses, and guitar solos. I'll take it over the almost unbroken drab-ness of DBTT on any Tuesday you care to mention. Lyla's a bang average tune. If it weren't for Liam's saving grace of a vocal on that tune, it would be absolutely fucking appalling.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 11, 2016 7:24:43 GMT -5
Could've had Andy Bell on vocals and Tony back on drums, and no way would Lyla ever have been "fucking appalling".
Charlie Brown, on the other hand, is bubblegum pop of the most fucking insipid variety.
"Be a cartoon heart: Light a fire, a fire, a spark; Light a fire, a flame in my heart; We'll run wild, We'll be glowing in the dark." ??
Absolute pap.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 11, 2016 7:28:53 GMT -5
Oh, and Paradise? That definitely has a place waiting for it in the 'Popular Songs That Irritate You' thread, for me. Hate that fucking thing with a fiery passion.
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 11, 2016 7:36:06 GMT -5
Could've had Andy Bell on vocals and Tony back on drums, and no way would Lyla ever have been "fucking appalling". Charlie Brown, on the other hand, is bubblegum pop of the most fucking insipid variety. "Be a cartoon heart: Light a fire, a fire, a spark; Light a fire, a flame in my heart; We'll run wild, We'll be glowing in the dark." ?? Absolute pap. " She believes in everything,and everyone and you and yours and mine.I waited for a thousand years,For you to come and blow me out my mind."Hmm. I wouldn't go so far as to call Lyla appalling, but it's not great is it? Like the rest of DBTT bar Idle, it's just so drab and uninspired. I can't say it's anywhere near as good as Charlie Brown - which is such a colourful and energetic tune, and has such a melancholic heart. Neither of them are classics, but Charlie Brown has a lot more to enjoy IMO - that riff, that melody, the production, the piano outro etc... And Lyla's not even as good as Paradise either, which actually has some elegant lyrics: When she was just a girl, She expected the world, But it flew away from her reach, So she ran away in her sleep, And dreamed of paradise.
And so lying underneath the stormy skies, She said "Oh, I know the sun must set to rise." This could be paradise.
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