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Post by batfink30 on Jan 7, 2016 12:38:23 GMT -5
Every band that Coldplay used to be associates with (Oasis/Noel, Travis, U2, Radiohead, Muse, Embrace, Elbow, Doves, etc) are now all far superior to them. I didn't think they would rank so low on the alternative rock band scene, but here we are and they are just terrible compared to them all at the moment. It's saying something that even Embrace are better than them now.
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Post by kingcrawler on Jan 7, 2016 14:17:04 GMT -5
Every band that Coldplay used to be associates with (Oasis/Noel, Travis, U2, Radiohead, Muse, Embrace, Elbow, Doves, etc) are now all far superior to them. I didn't think they would rank so low on the alternative rock band scene, but here we are and they are just terrible compared to them all at the moment. I dunno about Muse, don't think they're any better than Muse these days. I'd certainly take the last three Coldplay albums over the last three Muse ones.
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Post by matt on Jan 7, 2016 14:28:34 GMT -5
Every band that Coldplay used to be associates with (Oasis/Noel, Travis, U2, Radiohead, Muse, Embrace, Elbow, Doves, etc) are now all far superior to them. I didn't think they would rank so low on the alternative rock band scene, but here we are and they are just terrible compared to them all at the moment. I dunno about Muse, don't think they're any better than Muse these days. I'd certainly take the last three Coldplay albums over the last three Muse ones. The last one was their worst, but the previous two had their moments. I don't think they've ever made a terrible album but they seem to have just genuinely lost their way as opposed to selling out and going all 'down with the kids' on us.
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Post by matt on Jan 7, 2016 14:29:27 GMT -5
Every band that Coldplay used to be associates with (Oasis/Noel, Travis, U2, Radiohead, Muse, Embrace, Elbow, Doves, etc) are now all far superior to them. I didn't think they would rank so low on the alternative rock band scene, but here we are and they are just terrible compared to them all at the moment. It's saying something that even Embrace are better than them now. Embrace's last album was good. And Drawn From Memory is a great album too.
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Post by kingcrawler on Jan 7, 2016 14:32:23 GMT -5
I dunno about Muse, don't think they're any better than Muse these days. I'd certainly take the last three Coldplay albums over the last three Muse ones. The last one was their worst, but the previous two had their moments. I don't think they've ever made a terrible album but they seem to have just genuinely lost their way as opposed to selling out and going all 'down with the kids' on us. I suppose at least when Muse are really bad it tends to be funny whereas with Coldplay it's just bad. That's the only real positive I can give Muse here. I agree there's still a few decent songs on the last few Muse albums but I think there's better on Coldplay's last three and less properly bad stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 15:14:24 GMT -5
I like the end of birds.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 7, 2016 16:06:22 GMT -5
Every band that Coldplay used to be associates with (Oasis/Noel, Travis, U2, Radiohead, Muse, Embrace, Elbow, Doves, etc) are now all far superior to them. I didn't think they would rank so low on the alternative rock band scene, but here we are and they are just terrible compared to them all at the moment. I really think Coldplay abrupt turn from this type of music scene to the current L.A. pop star one has to do with marrying Paltrow and falling into her celeb friends like Beyonce, Jay-Z, etc. That rubbed off on Chris in a big big way. Trading London for Los Angeles changes people.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 7, 2016 16:48:16 GMT -5
Every band that Coldplay used to be associates with (Oasis/Noel, Travis, U2, Radiohead, Muse, Embrace, Elbow, Doves, etc) are now all far superior to them. I didn't think they would rank so low on the alternative rock band scene, but here we are and they are just terrible compared to them all at the moment. I really think Coldplay abrupt turn from this type of music scene to the current L.A. pop star one has to do with marrying Paltrow and falling into her celeb friends like Beyonce, Jay-Z, etc. That rubbed off on Chris in a big big way. Trading London for Los Angeles changes people. He's been with Gwyneth since 2002, don't really think that's got anything to do with it. The other things you mention though..
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 7, 2016 17:29:10 GMT -5
I really think Coldplay abrupt turn from this type of music scene to the current L.A. pop star one has to do with marrying Paltrow and falling into her celeb friends like Beyonce, Jay-Z, etc. That rubbed off on Chris in a big big way. Trading London for Los Angeles changes people. He's been with Gwyneth since 2002, don't really think that's got anything to do with it. The other things you mention though.. It's a gradual thing. He didn't move to LA until after 2005/2006. A big shift in band dynamics soon followed. It's just a theory and I don't think I'm far off. His crowd changed. His friends were now her friends.
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Post by World71R on Jan 7, 2016 17:42:34 GMT -5
Up&Up... wow.
Coldplay may have some mediocre-to-bad stuff on the album (HFTW, Fun, AOO/XMTS, AD), but they really hit on something with Up&Up. The guitar solos towards the end are really something else, that melody is purely British, and the band is all present. I never quite understood why the song stopped at the end, then came back with that little bit, but it makes sense, now that I've listened to it enough, because it ties up the loose ends of the song that couldn't be tied up within the song itself. I know I've said this a few times in this thread, but I just had to restate it after just finishing up a listen of it.
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Post by carlober on Jan 7, 2016 18:07:00 GMT -5
Up&Up... wow. Coldplay may have some mediocre-to-bad stuff on the album (HFTW, Fun, AOO/XMTS, AD), but they really hit on something with Up&Up. The guitar solos towards the end are really something else, and that melody is purely British. Those guitar solos at the end are really something else, too, and the band is all present. I never quite understood why the song stopped at the end, then came back with that little bit, but it makes sense, now that I've listened to it enough, because it ties up the loose ends of the song that couldn't be tied up within the song itself. I know I've said this a few times in this thread, but I just had to restate it after just finishing up a listen of it. It's the best track on the album, that's for sure! The solo should have been louder though, and the drums sound a bit fake and very flat. A really good song nevertheless...
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Post by batfink30 on Jan 7, 2016 18:38:23 GMT -5
Up&Up... wow. Coldplay may have some mediocre-to-bad stuff on the album (HFTW, Fun, AOO/XMTS, AD), but they really hit on something with Up&Up. The guitar solos towards the end are really something else, and that melody is purely British. Those guitar solos at the end are really something else, too, and the band is all present. I never quite understood why the song stopped at the end, then came back with that little bit, but it makes sense, now that I've listened to it enough, because it ties up the loose ends of the song that couldn't be tied up within the song itself. I know I've said this a few times in this thread, but I just had to restate it after just finishing up a listen of it. The production is a sheer mess on it. The first part is boring but it picks up in the end. Again, nothing special. A good song but nothing great,id rank A Head Full Of Dreams Over It. Virtually every song on the album though feels tired and like it's been done a hundred times before to me.
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Post by glider on Jan 7, 2016 22:28:33 GMT -5
Up&Up... wow. Coldplay may have some mediocre-to-bad stuff on the album (HFTW, Fun, AOO/XMTS, AD), but they really hit on something with Up&Up. The guitar solos towards the end are really something else, and that melody is purely British. Those guitar solos at the end are really something else, too, and the band is all present. I never quite understood why the song stopped at the end, then came back with that little bit, but it makes sense, now that I've listened to it enough, because it ties up the loose ends of the song that couldn't be tied up within the song itself. I know I've said this a few times in this thread, but I just had to restate it after just finishing up a listen of it. The production is a sheer mess on it. The first part is boring but it picks up in the end. Again, nothing special. A good song but nothing great,id rank A Head Full Of Dreams Over It. Virtually every song on the album though feels tired and like it's been done a hundred times before to me. Quoting @wadfalkirk last year, if they got Stargate to work on this album, they might as well have gotten Dave Sardy. Will's drumming is non existent for the most part aside from muffled thumps and Noel's solo is drowned in the sound. Like you said it sounds like they've run out of bright ideas. Every track is lifeless, and has no energy to driving force behind them whatsoever. I'm trying to understand how did a band with a songwriter that wrote tunes like: Trouble Bigger Stronger Brothers and Sisters Everything's Not Lost Spies Politik In My Place God Put A Smile Upon Your Face Clocks Daylight Amsterdam A Rush of Blood to the Head Warning Sign Fix You Gravity Square One Viva La Vida Violet Hill Cemeteries of London Life In Technicolor 2 Strawberry Swing Lovers In Japan 42 Yes ...And now, write songs like Amazing Day, X Marks the Spot, and Hymn for the Weekend. It makes absolutely no sense and you can tell something is off inside his psyche. These new batch of tunes are pisspoor compared to past endeavors. Not only has the album gotten mixed reviews among fans, but the sales show they haven't had a hit single nor album in the same vain of the previous records. Mr. Martin and co., the reason tracks like The Scientist, Yellow, Viva La Vida and Clocks continue to garner worldwide recognition and love by many is because they could very well be classics in a few decades. A Rush of Blood to the Head and Parachutes are timeless records, just like Definitely Maybe and WTSMG. People will be talking about them for years to come as they have since 2002. No one will be talking about A Head Full of Dreams. When you get someone like Tove Lo on your album, someone who probably will be musically irrelevant in several years, you've made a big mistake. Citing influences like Justin Bieber, who will be remembered for their bland pop and shameful celebrity acts rather than proper musical contributions, makes you seem insane after citing Radiohead as your influence years before. What Coldplay needs is to go back into the studio, and be restricted with certain materials for the album production. At least, create a song that cannot have: Featuring other artists/celebrities Heavy synth Modern pop influences Yet have: A accomplished and well received producer (get Eno back!) More focus on art rock and creative avenues outside of generic bland pop influence A more realistic portrayal of human emotion. Not everyone is happy and joyful all the time. Take several years if you have to. Dissapear into the dark like the Roses and make your "new" fans question if you're ever coming back as they'll probably move on to some fading pop group like 1D or 5SOS. Then reemerge better than ever with material that will shake the world. You guys can do it.
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Post by batfink30 on Jan 7, 2016 22:44:17 GMT -5
I just found another cringe worthy video complete with screaming middle age women. What a mess of a band.
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Post by glider on Jan 7, 2016 22:48:06 GMT -5
I just found another cringe worthy video complete with screaming middle age women. What a mess of a band.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 7, 2016 23:10:28 GMT -5
I'd rather listen to a Gwenyth Paltrow solo album....
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Post by World71R on Jan 8, 2016 0:04:58 GMT -5
The production is a sheer mess on it. The first part is boring but it picks up in the end. Again, nothing special. A good song but nothing great,id rank A Head Full Of Dreams Over It. Virtually every song on the album though feels tired and like it's been done a hundred times before to me. Quoting @wadfalkirk last year, if they got Stargate to work on this album, they might as well have gotten Dave Sardy. Will's drumming is non existent for the most part aside from muffled thumps and Noel's solo is drowned in the sound. Like you said it sounds like they've run out of bright ideas. Every track is lifeless, and has no energy to driving force behind them whatsoever. I'm trying to understand how did a band with a songwriter that wrote tunes like: Trouble Bigger Stronger Brothers and Sisters Everything's Not Lost Spies Politik In My Place God Put A Smile Upon Your Face Clocks Daylight Amsterdam A Rush of Blood to the Head Warning Sign Fix You Gravity Square One Viva La Vida Violet Hill Cemeteries of London Life In Technicolor 2 Strawberry Swing Lovers In Japan 42 Yes ...And now, write songs like Amazing Day, X Marks the Spot, and Hymn for the Weekend. It makes absolutely no sense and you can tell something is off inside his psyche. These new batch of tunes are pisspoor compared to past endeavors. Not only has the album gotten mixed reviews among fans, but the sales show they haven't had a hit single nor album in the same vain of the previous records. Mr. Martin and co., the reason tracks like The Scientist, Yellow, Viva La Vida and Clocks continue to garner worldwide recognition and love by many is because they could very well be classics in a few decades. A Rush of Blood to the Head and Parachutes are timeless records, just like Definitely Maybe and WTSMG. People will be talking about them for years to come as they have since 2002. No one will be talking about A Head Full of Dreams. When you get someone like Tove Lo on your album, someone who probably will be musically irrelevant in several years, you've made a big mistake. Citing influences like Justin Bieber, who will be remembered for their bland pop and shameful celebrity acts rather than proper musical contributions, makes you seem insane after citing Radiohead as your influence years before. What Coldplay needs is to go back into the studio, and be restricted with certain materials for the album production. At least, create a song that cannot have: Featuring other artists/celebrities Heavy synth Modern pop influences Yet have: A accomplished and well received producer (get Eno back!) More focus on art rock and creative avenues outside of generic bland pop influence A more realistic portrayal of human emotion. Not everyone is happy and joyful all the time. Take several years if you have to. Dissapear into the dark like the Roses and make your "new" fans question if you're ever coming back as they'll probably move on to some fading pop group like 1D or 5SOS. Then reemerge better than ever with material that will shake the world. You guys can do it. Few things: 1) I agree with all of what was said here. I'd love for Coldplay to make another album with songs that have bone-chilling lyrics and instrumentation that backs that up well, like with 42 and Cemeteries of London, which leads me to... 2) Those two songs have such a great imagery to it, and I love the delivery Chris gives of the opening line, "Those who are dead, are not dead, they are just living in my head" is one of my favorite Coldplay moments for how haunting it is. It makes HFTW look like someone dancing on someone's grave. 3) With all of those points mentioned, I'd argue that Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends will be regarded as a classic, alongside the other two you mentioned. That album is nothing short of great from front to back with how strong each song is, and how they all fall together really well with a strong central theme. 4) Back to point 1), what Coldplay needs to do is pull a U2. In some ways, AHFOD is a lot like their Pop with all of the collaborations and wild ideas, but just without the substance and strength in songs that Pop has, and any hope for being a classic, like Pop does. Coldplay needs to go back-to-basics, get the acoustic drums back, take out the dance layers, get together with Eno, and gather ideas & material that can be fresh but a classic sound for the band that can also produce a good hit for the band to have their hopes affirmed in the back-to-basics idea, like U2 had with Beautiful Day.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 8, 2016 2:00:35 GMT -5
What's wrong with a heavy synth? There are enough songs with a great synth "riff"
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 8, 2016 2:24:41 GMT -5
Quoting @wadfalkirk last year, if they got Stargate to work on this album, they might as well have gotten Dave Sardy. Will's drumming is non existent for the most part aside from muffled thumps and Noel's solo is drowned in the sound. Like you said it sounds like they've run out of bright ideas. Every track is lifeless, and has no energy to driving force behind them whatsoever. I'm trying to understand how did a band with a songwriter that wrote tunes like: Trouble Bigger Stronger Brothers and Sisters Everything's Not Lost Spies Politik In My Place God Put A Smile Upon Your Face Clocks Daylight Amsterdam A Rush of Blood to the Head Warning Sign Fix You Gravity Square One Viva La Vida Violet Hill Cemeteries of London Life In Technicolor 2 Strawberry Swing Lovers In Japan 42 Yes ...And now, write songs like Amazing Day, X Marks the Spot, and Hymn for the Weekend. It makes absolutely no sense and you can tell something is off inside his psyche. These new batch of tunes are pisspoor compared to past endeavors. Not only has the album gotten mixed reviews among fans, but the sales show they haven't had a hit single nor album in the same vain of the previous records. Mr. Martin and co., the reason tracks like The Scientist, Yellow, Viva La Vida and Clocks continue to garner worldwide recognition and love by many is because they could very well be classics in a few decades. A Rush of Blood to the Head and Parachutes are timeless records, just like Definitely Maybe and WTSMG. People will be talking about them for years to come as they have since 2002. No one will be talking about A Head Full of Dreams. When you get someone like Tove Lo on your album, someone who probably will be musically irrelevant in several years, you've made a big mistake. Citing influences like Justin Bieber, who will be remembered for their bland pop and shameful celebrity acts rather than proper musical contributions, makes you seem insane after citing Radiohead as your influence years before. What Coldplay needs is to go back into the studio, and be restricted with certain materials for the album production. At least, create a song that cannot have: Featuring other artists/celebrities Heavy synth Modern pop influences Yet have: A accomplished and well received producer (get Eno back!) More focus on art rock and creative avenues outside of generic bland pop influence A more realistic portrayal of human emotion. Not everyone is happy and joyful all the time. Take several years if you have to. Dissapear into the dark like the Roses and make your "new" fans question if you're ever coming back as they'll probably move on to some fading pop group like 1D or 5SOS. Then reemerge better than ever with material that will shake the world. You guys can do it. Few things: 1) I agree with all of what was said here. I'd love for Coldplay to make another album with songs that have bone-chilling lyrics and instrumentation that backs that up well, like with 42 and Cemeteries of London, which leads me to... 2) Those two songs have such a great imagery to it, and I love the delivery Chris gives of the opening line, "Those who are dead, are not dead, they are just living in my head" is one of my favorite Coldplay moments for how haunting it is. It makes HFTW look like someone dancing on someone's grave. 3) With all of those points mentioned, I'd argue that Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends will be regarded as a classic, alongside the other two you mentioned. That album is nothing short of great from front to back with how strong each song is, and how they all fall together really well with a strong central theme. 4) Back to point 1), what Coldplay needs to do is pull a U2. In some ways, AHFOD is a lot like their Pop with all of the collaborations and wild ideas, but just without the substance and strength in songs that Pop has, and any hope for being a classic, like Pop does. Coldplay needs to go back-to-basics, get the acoustic drums back, take out the dance layers, get together with Eno, and gather ideas & material that can be fresh but a classic sound for the band that can also produce a good hit for the band to have their hopes affirmed in the back-to-basics idea, like U2 had with Beautiful Day. The beauty of U2's "POP" album is that it really isn't pop at all. The title of the record is intentionally ironic. Coldplay actually were trying to make a mega happy super duper pop album. Big difference.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 8, 2016 2:34:32 GMT -5
AHFOD is like Pop??
I think at this point Chris Martin would rather eat his testicles than write songs as crazy and daring as Discothèque, Do You Feel Loved, MOFO, Miami, Please, etc.
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Post by World71R on Jan 8, 2016 17:24:59 GMT -5
AHFOD is like Pop?? I think at this point Chris Martin would rather eat his testicles than write songs as crazy and daring as Discothèque, Do You Feel Loved, MOFO, Miami, Please, etc. I just get similar vibes when I listen to songs from both of the albums. Albeit one is very deep and substantial ( Pop), while the other is poppy and self-indulgent with some self-parodying overtones, but I also find some similarities in the track listing. The first track on both albums are very dance-infused, while the second tracks slightly follow suit but take on some more pop tendencies, the third tracks are the most different from the band's sound, the fourth tracks are closer to the respective band's respective sound, and the fifth tracks are a bit of a departure from the sound but are the most single-worthy songs on the album. From there, the similarities end, period. Those songs you mentioned, plus If You Wear That Velvet Dress and Wake Up Dead Man, especially, are some fine works that were so batshit insane (but good) that it scared off the biggest (and best, arguably) band in the World to go back-to-basics, while some of the stuff on AHFOD would scare off anyone for how blandly penned and sellout-like it is. Very, big difference there.
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Post by World71R on Jan 8, 2016 17:32:20 GMT -5
What's wrong with a heavy synth? There are enough songs with a great synth "riff" That's the problem, though. There are enough songs with a great synth riff that it's just getting a little old, as a result.
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Post by batfink30 on Jan 8, 2016 17:51:07 GMT -5
AHFOD is like Pop?? I think at this point Chris Martin would rather eat his testicles than write songs as crazy and daring as Discothèque, Do You Feel Loved, MOFO, Miami, Please, etc. I just get similar vibes when I listen to songs from both of the albums. Albeit one is very deep and substantial ( Pop), while the other is poppy and self-indulgent with some self-parodying overtones, but I also find some similarities in the track listing. The first track on both albums are very dance-infused, while the second tracks slightly follow suit but take on some more pop tendencies, the third tracks are the most different from the band's sound, the fourth tracks are closer to the respective band's respective sound, and the fifth tracks are a bit of a departure from the sound but are the most single-worthy songs on the album. From there, the similarities end, period. Those songs you mentioned, plus If You Wear That Velvet Dress and Wake Up Dead Man, especially, are some fine works that were so batshit insane (but good) that it scared off the biggest (and best, arguably) band in the World to go back-to-basics, while some of the stuff on AHFOD would scare off anyone for how blandly penned and sellout-like it is. Very, big difference there. It's crazy how well Pop has aged, it was almost ahead of its time. Mofo can easily stand up against the best dance tracks of the 90s and 2000s and Gone is an amazing track. It's a shame the album been disregarded in such a way.
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Post by matt on Jan 8, 2016 19:04:42 GMT -5
Saw Chris Martin on MOTD wishing a great game between Exeter v Liverpool............... he called it 'soccer'. What a cockwomble. Jurgen Klopp heard and went into one of his psychotic rages....
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Post by glider on Jan 8, 2016 19:06:04 GMT -5
Saw Chris Martin on MOTD wishing a great game between Exeter v Liverpool............... he called it 'soccer'. What a cockwomble. Jurgen Klopp heard and went into one of his psychotic rages.... He truly is.
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