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Post by World71R on Dec 30, 2015 0:45:53 GMT -5
It is miserable to think this band actually used to be this good over 6 years ago. Fuuuuucccckkkk, I love LITii. There's such a cool, Eastern feel to it that added to the whole theme of the VLV era, which was, to me, was putting a modern spin on the Old World. Stuff like this is what is making me become a fan of these guys, and not Chris singing over a backing track that buries the rest of the band about how he wants to get drunk and high.  |
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Post by The Escapist on Dec 30, 2015 11:21:51 GMT -5
Viva-era Coldplay is one of my favourite bands ever. Such wonderfully grand and melancholy music. The whole era just bursts with creativity.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 30, 2015 11:45:34 GMT -5
Viva-era Coldplay is one of my favourite bands ever. Such wonderfully grand and melancholy music. The whole era just bursts with creativity. Viva La Vida is melancholy? I'd have thought Parachutes and A Rush of Blood fits that bill. Viva was an attempt to be rock/pop and happy. Kinda flip the script for what was at the time "Coldplay is depressing" type label for many.  |
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Post by andybellwillring on Dec 30, 2015 12:11:01 GMT -5
Viva-era Coldplay is one of my favourite bands ever. Such wonderfully grand and melancholy music. The whole era just bursts with creativity. Viva La Vida is melancholy? I'd have thought Parachutes and A Rush of Blood fits that bill. Viva was an attempt to be rock/pop and happy. Kinda flip the script for what was at the time "Coldplay is depressing" type label for many. I'd say it's both joyous and melancholy, another reason why it's fucking brilliant. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 30, 2015 12:18:23 GMT -5
Viva La Vida is a brilliant record
It's as "colourful" as Mylo and AHFOD but doesn't sound like a sad attempt to be pop and relevant and happy just for the sake of it
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 30, 2015 12:20:38 GMT -5
Viva La Vida is a brilliant record It's as "colourful" as Mylo and AHFOD but doesn't sound like a sad attempt to be pop and relevant and happy just for the sake of it A Head Full of Dreams is a sad joke of an album. #WTF |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 30, 2015 13:46:13 GMT -5
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Post by carlober on Dec 30, 2015 13:50:27 GMT -5
I guess Justin Bieber and Nicki Minaj are next, then. Fuck this shit. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 30, 2015 13:52:43 GMT -5
I guess Justin Bieber and Nicki Minaj are next, then. Fuck this shit. In an alternate reality.............Super Bowl XXX............Half-Time show with Oasis featuring Madonna and Lauren Hill!  |
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Post by The Escapist on Dec 30, 2015 16:36:03 GMT -5
Viva-era Coldplay is one of my favourite bands ever. Such wonderfully grand and melancholy music. The whole era just bursts with creativity. Viva La Vida is melancholy? I'd have thought Parachutes and A Rush of Blood fits that bill. Viva was an attempt to be rock/pop and happy. Kinda flip the script for what was at the time "Coldplay is depressing" type label for many. It's definitely melancholy for me; Lovers in Japan, Reign of Love, Strawberry Swing, Death and All His Friends, Life in Technicolor, and Viva la Vida all have a kind of lilting yet epic sadness I think. It's a feeling I find very specific to that album, like the summery blissed-out feeling The Stone Roses gives, I don't get it anywhere else. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 30, 2015 16:41:34 GMT -5
Viva La Vida is melancholy? I'd have thought Parachutes and A Rush of Blood fits that bill. Viva was an attempt to be rock/pop and happy. Kinda flip the script for what was at the time "Coldplay is depressing" type label for many. It's definitely melancholy for me; Lovers in Japan, Reign of Love, Strawberry Swing, Death and All His Friends, Life in Technicolor, and Viva la Vida all have a kind of lilting yet epic sadness I think. It's a feeling I find very specific to that album, like the summery blissed-out feeling The Stone Roses gives, I don't get it anywhere else. I get the complete opposite reaction. Viva was the move from darkness to the light. Coldplay trying really hard to lose the "depressing" stereotype that carried between 2000 and 2005. They did a great job. |
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Post by glider on Dec 31, 2015 0:35:22 GMT -5
I guess Justin Bieber and Nicki Minaj are next, then. Fuck this shit. Embarrassing. What's even funnier is that alot of people on social media don't want to them doing the halftime show. Most people in the US still don't know Coldplay for anything else other than Clocks, Viva La Vida, Paradise and Sky Full of Stars. They're chasing a popularity point that they haven't reached to its full potential since Mylo. What they need to do is stop sniffing other celeb's asses and get back to just the four of them making proper music with a great producer like Eno. |
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Post by glider on Dec 31, 2015 0:56:28 GMT -5
It's definitely melancholy for me; Lovers in Japan, Reign of Love, Strawberry Swing, Death and All His Friends, Life in Technicolor, and Viva la Vida all have a kind of lilting yet epic sadness I think. It's a feeling I find very specific to that album, like the summery blissed-out feeling The Stone Roses gives, I don't get it anywhere else. I get the complete opposite reaction. Viva was the move from darkness to the light. Coldplay trying really hard to lose the "depressing" stereotype that carried between 2000 and 2005. They did a great job. Viva La Vida isn't dark and depressing like AROBTTH but more so captures the sound of finding love and happiness in a time of war, loss and despair. Lovers In Japan captures this perfectly: "Lovers, keep on the road you're on
Runners, until the race is run
Soldiers, you've got to soldier on""They are turning my head out
To see what I'm all about
Keeping my head down
To see what it feels like now
But I have no doubt
One day the sun will come out"
Like The Escapist said they captured that classic Stone Roses vibe of wrapping a beautiful and at times fun, positively sounding melody over lyrics that seem rather pessimistic. FFS Going Down is about sex and Mersey Paradise is about drowning! Attach the melancholy pop drenched ballads with the epic like Viva La Vida and modern rock genius of Violet Hill, with Brian Eno as your producer, and you got a highly creative and confident album released by a band that (at the time) were using their full potential as musicians. |
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Post by World71R on Dec 31, 2015 1:35:08 GMT -5
I get the complete opposite reaction. Viva was the move from darkness to the light. Coldplay trying really hard to lose the "depressing" stereotype that carried between 2000 and 2005. They did a great job. Viva La Vida isn't dark and depressing like AROBTTH but more so captures the sound of finding love and happiness in a time of war, loss and despair. Lovers In Japan captures this perfectly: "Lovers, keep on the road you're on
Runners, until the race is run
Soldiers, you've got to soldier on""They are turning my head out
To see what I'm all about
Keeping my head down
To see what it feels like now
But I have no doubt
One day the sun will come out"
Like The Escapist said they captured that classic Stone Roses vibe of wrapping a beautiful and at times fun, positively sounding melody over lyrics that seem rather pessimistic. FFS Going Down is about sex and Mersey Paradise is about drowning! Attach the melancholy pop drenched ballads with the epic like Viva La Vida and modern rock genius of Violet Hill, with Brian Eno as your producer, and you got a highly creative and confident album released by a band that (at the time) were using their full potential as musicians. is such a beautiful track. The lyrics are poignant and create a great imagery, the melody is strong, the whole band shines with each element, and even the fifth member (at the time), Eno, shines well by adding some small atmospheric touches to make it all one big masterpiece of Coldplay's. VLV falls into that category, too. Speaking of which, that HAS to be one of the best songs to reach #1 in the US since the turn of the century, and maybe even before that. |
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Post by glider on Dec 31, 2015 1:50:55 GMT -5
Viva La Vida isn't dark and depressing like AROBTTH but more so captures the sound of finding love and happiness in a time of war, loss and despair. Lovers In Japan captures this perfectly: "Lovers, keep on the road you're on
Runners, until the race is run
Soldiers, you've got to soldier on""They are turning my head out
To see what I'm all about
Keeping my head down
To see what it feels like now
But I have no doubt
One day the sun will come out"
Like The Escapist said they captured that classic Stone Roses vibe of wrapping a beautiful and at times fun, positively sounding melody over lyrics that seem rather pessimistic. FFS Going Down is about sex and Mersey Paradise is about drowning! Attach the melancholy pop drenched ballads with the epic like Viva La Vida and modern rock genius of Violet Hill, with Brian Eno as your producer, and you got a highly creative and confident album released by a band that (at the time) were using their full potential as musicians. is such a beautiful track. The lyrics are poignant and create a great imagery, the melody is strong, the whole band shines with each element, and even the fifth member (at the time), Eno, shines well by adding some small atmospheric touches to make it all one big masterpiece of Coldplay's. VLV falls into that category, too. Speaking of which, that HAS to be one of the best songs to reach #1 in the US since the turn of the century, and maybe even before that. I'm so glad Viva La Vida (the song) was is very popular. It is an excellent piece of music. |
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Post by The Escapist on Dec 31, 2015 6:09:49 GMT -5
Lovers in Japan is such a beautiful track. The lyrics are poignant and create a great imagery, the melody is strong, the whole band shines with each element, and even the fifth member (at the time), Eno, shines well by adding some small atmospheric touches to make it all one big masterpiece of Coldplay's. VLV falls into that category, too. Speaking of which, that HAS to be one of the best songs to reach #1 in the US since the turn of the century, and maybe even before that. I'm so glad Viva La Vida (the song) was is very popular. It is an excellent piece of music. My favourite thing about Lovers in Japan these days is that droning Eno synth. It gives it such an epic sound. |
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Post by Cast on Dec 31, 2015 12:55:33 GMT -5
Coldplay were a very good band, but I wouldn't throw the term "genius" at them. None of their members are of that caliber, and frankly none of their songs have ever made me exclaim "that's genius!". They have plenty of "wow" moments (Politik), but Martin isn't a Lennon, Reed, Gaye, or Marley or even a Damon or Noel. Martin has a gifted ear for melody, but even then I wouldn't say he is on the level of a Noel or Taylor Swift.
Viva La Vida is a nice album, hell its a very good one, a great rebound after the relatively shallow and empty X&Y, but I'm hesitant to call it a great one.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 31, 2015 13:06:12 GMT -5
Coldplay were a very good band, but I wouldn't throw the term "genius" at them. None of their members are of that caliber, and frankly none of their songs have ever made me exclaim "that's genius!". They have plenty of "wow" moments (Politik), but Martin isn't a Lennon, Reed, Gaye, or Marley or even a Damon or Noel. Martin has a gifted ear for melody, but even then I wouldn't say he is on the level of a Noel or Taylor Swift. Viva La Vida is a nice album, hell its a very good one, a great rebound after the relatively shallow and empty X&Y, but I'm hesitant to call it a great one. I would agree with that. Very fun album but it doesn't matchup to what I consider their masterpiece "A Rush of Blood To The Head". I rank them as follows. 1) A Rush of Blood To The Head 2) Parachutes 3) Viva La Vida or Death And All of His Friends 4) X&Y 5) Mylo Xyloto 6) Ghost Stories 7) A Head Full of Dreams The bottom 3 are well below the top 3 in craftsmanship. They do contain their brilliant moments (Hurts Like Heaven, Charlie Brown, Midnight) but overall they lack gumption. |
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Post by The Escapist on Dec 31, 2015 13:45:37 GMT -5
Coldplay were a very good band, but I wouldn't throw the term "genius" at them. None of their members are of that caliber, and frankly none of their songs have ever made me exclaim "that's genius!". They have plenty of "wow" moments (Politik), but Martin isn't a Lennon, Reed, Gaye, or Marley or even a Damon or Noel. Martin has a gifted ear for melody, but even then I wouldn't say he is on the level of a Noel or Taylor Swift.Viva La Vida is a nice album, hell its a very good one, a great rebound after the relatively shallow and empty X&Y, but I'm hesitant to call it a great one. Chris Martin is ten times the melodist Taylor Swift is. Noel is debatable. I agree though Coldplay are far from genius, although they were a damned good pop/rock band for nine years. My ranking: 1) Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends 2) A Rush of Blood to the Head 3) Parachutes 4) Mylo Xyloto 5) X&Y 6) Ghost Stories 7) A Head Full of Dreams |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 14:00:15 GMT -5
Don't compare Noel with Swift, please !
It's already a bit harsh for Martin, so for Noel...
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Post by batfink30 on Dec 31, 2015 14:31:19 GMT -5
Coldplay were a very good band, but I wouldn't throw the term "genius" at them. None of their members are of that caliber, and frankly none of their songs have ever made me exclaim "that's genius!". They have plenty of "wow" moments (Politik), but Martin isn't a Lennon, Reed, Gaye, or Marley or even a Damon or Noel. Martin has a gifted ear for melody, but even then I wouldn't say he is on the level of a Noel or Taylor Swift.Viva La Vida is a nice album, hell its a very good one, a great rebound after the relatively shallow and empty X&Y, but I'm hesitant to call it a great one. Chris Martin is ten times the melodist Taylor Swift is. Noel is debatable. I agree though Coldplay are far from genius, although they were a damned good pop/rock band for nine years. My ranking: 1) Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends 2) A Rush of Blood to the Head 3) Parachutes 4) Mylo Xyloto 5) X&Y 6) Ghost Stories 7) A Head Full of Dreams At one point I thought they could've pushed on to be one of the greatest bands ever, but they've fallen away so badly. Now I'd struggle to even put them in the "2nd tier" of UK great bands. Martin is a good songwriter and melodist but he's not a "great". Somehow they seem to be massive worldwide and I think it might be because there's been a real lack of great bands around in the 2000s, they've filled a void. The strangest thing is when you look Coldplaying.com for example, you see lots of young people holding Coldplay up as the most original and amazing band EVA! yet they don't seem to have the musical knowledge that they're now very generic and clichéd and it's all been done before by Radiohead, U2, Echo and the Bunnymen etc etc. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 31, 2015 14:42:35 GMT -5
Taylor Swift? TAYLOR SWIFT?!
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Post by Cast on Dec 31, 2015 14:45:27 GMT -5
Coldplay were a very good band, but I wouldn't throw the term "genius" at them. None of their members are of that caliber, and frankly none of their songs have ever made me exclaim "that's genius!". They have plenty of "wow" moments (Politik), but Martin isn't a Lennon, Reed, Gaye, or Marley or even a Damon or Noel. Martin has a gifted ear for melody, but even then I wouldn't say he is on the level of a Noel or Taylor Swift.Viva La Vida is a nice album, hell its a very good one, a great rebound after the relatively shallow and empty X&Y, but I'm hesitant to call it a great one. Chris Martin is ten times the melodist Taylor Swift is. Noel is debatable. I agree though Coldplay are far from genius, although they were a damned good pop/rock band for nine years. My ranking: 1) Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends 2) A Rush of Blood to the Head 3) Parachutes 4) Mylo Xyloto 5) X&Y 6) Ghost Stories 7) A Head Full of Dreams Word up. Can't say I agree with you on the t-swift thing, and i think Noel has actually written more memorable songs compared to Chris over the past 5 years (although I am an Oasis fan after all). here's my ranking and with #'s just for perspective 1. Parachutes - 8.5/10 2. A Rush of Blood to the Head - 8.5/10 3. Viva la Vida or Death and All his Friends - 7.5/10 4. X&Y -6/10 5. Mylo Xyloto - 5.5/10 6. Ghost Stories - 5/10 7. A Head Full of Dreams - 4/10 EDIT: Just saw peoples reaction. Look, I don't really listen to Taylor Swift. I give her album's a passing listen, I went to school in Nashville for 4 years after Speak Now came out and she's just an funny and interesting cultural thing to examine. She's is no doubt a legit krazy capitalist genius, but she's also a pretty good songwriter. I have respect for her and her craft, even though I wouldn't say I'm a fan. That said tunes like Back to December, Style, Love Story, I Knew You Were Trouble, etc; you can't deny those melodies even if you don't like her or what she stands for, the style of music, or the production. Those melodies stand alone or stripped down. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 31, 2015 14:57:37 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher should have Taylor Swift sing backing vocals on his next album. Imagine The Right Stuff with T-Swift? Sign. Me. Up!  |
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Post by matt on Dec 31, 2015 14:59:51 GMT -5
Coldplay were a very good band, but I wouldn't throw the term "genius" at them. None of their members are of that caliber, and frankly none of their songs have ever made me exclaim "that's genius!". They have plenty of "wow" moments (Politik), but Martin isn't a Lennon, Reed, Gaye, or Marley or even a Damon or Noel. Martin has a gifted ear for melody, but even then I wouldn't say he is on the level of a Noel or Taylor Swift. Viva La Vida is a nice album, hell its a very good one, a great rebound after the relatively shallow and empty X&Y, but I'm hesitant to call it a great one. Sorry cast, I just can't agree with the bit about Taylor Swift. She's talented enough, but let's remember her albums of late have been produced by 15 million people with songwriting credits given to the usual suspects of today's pop chart fodder. But in no way is she as melodically talented as Martin at his peak - songs like Shake It Off or We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together sound like children's TV themes from CBeebies. Until she can write a song up to the standard of The Scientist and her songs start getting covered by Willie Nelson and Frank Ocean, she won't be anywhere near Martin's peak. |
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