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Post by glider on Nov 27, 2015 21:03:17 GMT -5
Like I said, it's one of the worst songs I've heard this year. Lower than modern Coldplay standards. This album is about to be a wake up call if the critics and hardcore fans slam it. Critics might be scared to "slam" it. Coldplay sells a lot of albums. They sell out a lot of arenas and stadiums. They might not want to harm business since the band are genuinely nice people. Similar situation with Be Here Now (even though I love it), critics were afraid to slam Oasis at the time and therefore praised it and some claimed it was better than Morning Glory.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 27, 2015 21:05:46 GMT -5
Critics might be scared to "slam" it. Coldplay sells a lot of albums. They sell out a lot of arenas and stadiums. They might not want to harm business since the band are genuinely nice people. Similar situation with Be Here Now (even though I love it), critics were afraid to slam Oasis at the time and therefore praised it and some claimed it was better than Morning Glory. A lot of that has to do with the reviews for Morning Glory. Noel is right in saying that too. MG got some average reviews upon release saying it doesn't live up to Definitely Maybe. However, the fans spoke loudly and it became a mega monster smash. They were too scared to mess up again. Of course they still did by over praising it!!!!!
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Post by glider on Nov 27, 2015 21:09:29 GMT -5
Is this the type of feedback Coldplay gets over at that forum?
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Post by batfink30 on Nov 27, 2015 21:15:15 GMT -5
Is this the type of feedback Coldplay gets over at that forum? I don't even know what "lit" means.
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Post by matt on Nov 27, 2015 21:26:07 GMT -5
I really like A Head Full Of Dreams, Birds and Up & Up while Adventure of a Lifetime is still decent but mainly because their influences on that songs are heralded from classic artists and genres. Nice indie feel to Birds, nice guitar riff, Adventure of a Lifetime has a nice bit of funk to it, while A Head Full Of Dreams is a mixture of ABBA and U2. Up & Up melodically a structurally has a Britpop feel to it so no surprise Noel was called up for it but, my god, they ruin it with those horrible fake drums and the putrid Stargate production weighs it down. It is obvious that duo have never listened to a decent song in their life considering the butchering that went on there. It is no surprise these are the best songs as they derive from much more credible influences than the rest of the album, in which the less said about the obvious influences on the rest of the album, the better.
But for the first time ever, I don't hear a hit single from a Coldplay album. Hymn For The Weekend is the desperate attempt at a radio hit by layering it with modern RnB style production and enlisting the help of Beyonce but the song is a mess to be honest, doesn't seem to go anywhere and in fact goes off in tangents rather than builds into something, while there is no melody to speak of.
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Post by jordan71421 on Nov 27, 2015 21:34:01 GMT -5
I really like A Head Full Of Dreams, Birds and Up & Up while Adventure of a Lifetime is still decent but mainly because their influences on that songs are heralded from classic artists and genres. Nice indie feel to Birds, nice guitar riff, Adventure of a Lifetime has a nice bit of funk to it, while A Head Full Of Dreams is a mixture of ABBA and U2. Up & Up melodically a structurally has a Britpop feel to it so no surprise Noel was called up for it but, my god, they ruin it with those horrible fake drums and the putrid Stargate production weighs it down. It is obvious that duo have never listened to a decent song in their life considering the butchering that went on there. It is no surprise these are the best songs as they derive from much more credible influences than the rest of the album, in which the less said about the obvious influences on the rest of the album, the better. But for the first time ever, I don't hear a hit single from a Coldplay album. Hymn For The Weekend is the desperate attempt at a radio hit by layering it with modern RnB style production and enlisting the help of Beyonce but the song is a mess to be honest, doesn't seem to go anywhere and in fact goes off in tangents rather than builds into something, while there is no melody to speak of. I truly like Adventure of a Lifetime, when I first heard it I thought this album was going to be really great, it's not bloated sounding like a lot of their songs lately. But it's still probably their weakest single yet. A Head Full of Dreams reminds me so much of U2. Hymn for the Weekend sounds like a song Macklemore would make, and Up&Up is a good song but I agree that those drums on the album version suck, the live version is much better. Typical Noel solo on it too.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 27, 2015 21:55:00 GMT -5
A Head Full of Dreams indeed. Only dreams. No substance.
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Post by matt on Nov 27, 2015 22:13:27 GMT -5
I really like A Head Full Of Dreams, Birds and Up & Up while Adventure of a Lifetime is still decent but mainly because their influences on that songs are heralded from classic artists and genres. Nice indie feel to Birds, nice guitar riff, Adventure of a Lifetime has a nice bit of funk to it, while A Head Full Of Dreams is a mixture of ABBA and U2. Up & Up melodically a structurally has a Britpop feel to it so no surprise Noel was called up for it but, my god, they ruin it with those horrible fake drums and the putrid Stargate production weighs it down. It is obvious that duo have never listened to a decent song in their life considering the butchering that went on there. It is no surprise these are the best songs as they derive from much more credible influences than the rest of the album, in which the less said about the obvious influences on the rest of the album, the better. But for the first time ever, I don't hear a hit single from a Coldplay album. Hymn For The Weekend is the desperate attempt at a radio hit by layering it with modern RnB style production and enlisting the help of Beyonce but the song is a mess to be honest, doesn't seem to go anywhere and in fact goes off in tangents rather than builds into something, while there is no melody to speak of. I truly like Adventure of a Lifetime, when I first heard it I thought this album was going to be really great, it's not bloated sounding like a lot of their songs lately. But it's still probably their weakest single yet. A Head Full of Dreams reminds me so much of U2. Hymn for the Weekend sounds like a song Macklemore would make, and Up&Up is a good song but I agree that those drums on the album version suck, the live version is much better. Typical Noel solo on it too. It was Paul McCartney who said that when he and Lennon were writing songs, if they couldn't remember the melody the next morning then it obviously wasn't good enough. And that's the impression I get with the majority of this album. Listening to this once, there are a few tracks that have stuck in my mind and that's to be expected from someone with the melodic capabilities of Chris Martin. But the others? Instantly forgettable and there seems to be a distinct lack of precision with the vocal melodies which all seem rather generic. The poor production by those two charlatans called Stargate isn't the major issue here but the songwriting itself. I say it is generic melodically in that the tunes don't differentiate wildly from the ones we hear in the charts and I have suspicions it is this way because Chris Martin feels forced to write something that will sell to the mainstream. They used to write songs that were sincere and honest. It all felt rather natural and likewise, most of us music fans on here bought into that organic feel of Coldplay. And while they let their creative instincts run a bit wilder on Viva La Vida, that album felt like a natural progression as it didn't resort to any kind of cliche. But Coldplay of late has just been cliche after cliche after cliche, and it has now become so very tiresome and predictable. While the Old Coldplay were an amalgamation of all their favourite artists from past and present (much like Oasis were in the 90s), the Coldplay we have seen of the last 5 years is now a follower of easily disposable pop trends as opposed to the champion of classic influences. It is geared towards chasing fame and fortune, but the end results of such a pursuit doesn't end with anything fulfilling but instead with something shallow and devoid of any meaning.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 27, 2015 22:14:56 GMT -5
Everglow is no doubt inspired by I see Fire by whatshisface Ed Sheeran.
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Post by matt on Nov 27, 2015 22:28:31 GMT -5
If Noel was describing the song A Head Full Of Dreams it would go: "It sounds like ABBA on steroids doing One Tree Hill by U2".
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 27, 2015 22:37:50 GMT -5
I can't accept how bland Up & Up turned out to be. The live version was great. There's no life on the album version.Sucked dry. Lacking energy and complexity.
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 27, 2015 23:02:03 GMT -5
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 28, 2015 3:58:17 GMT -5
Okay it leaked already? Wow. It seems as if most people are extremely underwhelmed by it. I will listen for myself later today.
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Post by carlober on Nov 28, 2015 5:22:47 GMT -5
A Head Full of Shit. Fuckin' hell...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 7:10:57 GMT -5
I really hope this album gets utterly destroyed, the band take a LONG time off and reevaluate what the fuck they're doing. Then hopefully they can return with an album on the level of Parachutes / AROBTTH / Viva la Vida. Jesus Christ guys, are you even aware of what you're doing these days, or do you just all walk around the studio smiling, happy to be playing such forgettably optimistic shit all day? Give me paranoid 2005 Chris Martin over grateful 2015 Chris Martin anyday
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 28, 2015 7:14:04 GMT -5
Is it THAT bad? I haven't listened yet
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Post by batfink30 on Nov 28, 2015 7:45:34 GMT -5
Is it THAT bad? I haven't listened yet Yes. 4/10.
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Post by RUBIKON on Nov 28, 2015 8:24:46 GMT -5
Has a high quality rip surfaced yet? This definitely isn't 320
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 28, 2015 9:38:05 GMT -5
This album is AMAZING! .......
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Post by carlober on Nov 28, 2015 9:37:49 GMT -5
X Marks the Spot might be the worst Coldplay song ever.
Seriously, what the fuck were they thinking? It's embarrassing.
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Post by batfink30 on Nov 28, 2015 9:54:01 GMT -5
X Marks the Spot might be the worst Coldplay song ever. Seriously, what the fuck were they thinking? It's embarrassing. I can only assume they're surrounded by "yes men" as Martin seems to have lost it hanging around with Bieber etc, seems like noone will say to him "this is shit", not even the rest of the band. X Marks The Spot is astonishingly bad, so are Amazing Day, Everglow, the Beyonce track, the Obama thing, all utter trash. Birds is marginally better but it's a nothing track in general and goes nowhere. Fun is another poor forgettable song made even poorer by dreadful production and the annoying whiney duet vox. The annoying thing is A Headfull of Dreams is pretty great and Up & Up (whilst being ruined by production) had the potential to be really good. I'd even rank Heathen Chemistry above this album.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 28, 2015 10:31:37 GMT -5
I said it months ago and hinted at it when Ghost Stories came out. Coldplay is entering hardcore Maroon 5 territory. Chris Martin wants to be Adam Levine. He will eventually do a solo album which is all pop cheese and then be a judge on a music show. Mark it down people.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 28, 2015 10:36:14 GMT -5
Why did Coldplay ever stop working with Ken Nelson or Brian Eno?
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Post by matt on Nov 28, 2015 11:31:41 GMT -5
Is it THAT bad? I haven't listened yet Don't pre-judge what you hear on what us old farts are saying. A lot of younger listeners aren't as scornful towards it I see. It's a very marmite album, some will love it, some will hate it. Others will love part of it, and hate the other part. I've heard way way worse albums of course, it's just that much of the hatred is derived from a band that has a lot of talent but who are quite consciously wasting it.
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Post by RUBIKON on Nov 28, 2015 11:54:49 GMT -5
the songs arnt the issue as such, its the sound of it. fuckin stargate have produced it, sounds like will champion hasnt lifted a finger on this
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