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Post by matt on Apr 22, 2016 13:50:39 GMT -5
I hope Arsenal score 5 goals after the 75th minute today. Support the club, ffs. #AKB In times of turmoil, you don't turn your back but rather offer your support. Negative attitudes will only negatively affect the players - the protests and vitriol are all counterproductive. mattToo much football and not enough entertainment with regards to challenging - they've been static and the fans have cottoned on. The same has happened at City and United this year.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 30, 2016 11:22:29 GMT -5
Watching Arsenal vs. Norwich
We need to win to help secure a top four finish. I can't believe our season has come to this. Again. Either way, I don't protest but I do support.
Come On You Gooners. #COYG
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 2, 2016 22:02:35 GMT -5
Arsene Wenger will extend his contract. And here's why: He's going to pre-determine when he leaves as to give the club time to prepare for the transition. Without such preparations currently in place means he's almost certain to extend. I.e., there's no signs that he's going anywhere, and actually evidence more to the contrary. matt
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 3, 2016 14:22:03 GMT -5
Arsene Wenger will extend his contract. And here's why: He's going to pre-determine when he leaves as to give the club time to prepare for the transition. Without such preparations currently in place means he's almost certain to extend. I.e., there's no signs that he's going anywhere, and actually evidence more to the contrary. matt First question would be transition to who Beady’s Here Now and surely a close season is the best time for a change, given that your top four rivals are all strengthening and even clubs such as (my team) Everton are preparing to invest heavily (only been around two decades coming ). That aside apparently Arsenal have triggered a circa £20,000,000 release clause in Jamie Vardy's contract- thoughts? Guardian Vardy to ArsenalWould wish the fella well myself but I can genuinely see him as a Francis Jeffers MKII as his style of play is nothing like Arsenal's, and I can't see the whole team being reshaped to suit a 29yo Striker off the back of one (admittedly very successful) season.
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Post by matt on Jun 3, 2016 17:43:23 GMT -5
Arsene Wenger will extend his contract. And here's why: He's going to pre-determine when he leaves as to give the club time to prepare for the transition. Without such preparations currently in place means he's almost certain to extend. I.e., there's no signs that he's going anywhere, and actually evidence more to the contrary. mattI think you're probably right - I wouldn't at all be surprised if they were priming a candidate for a couple of years in advance. Wenger seems like the kind of guy who would want the smoothest transition possible. And I get what you're saying guigsysEstring - it's a very unArsenal signing. 29 years old, very direct player who is best on the counter attack. Watching England play last night against Portugal and he seems a player who is pretty average in the tight intricate areas where the opposition is entirely in its own half and that requires the deftest of touches and passes to unlock attacking moves. Whether it signals a change, or at least variation, of Wenger's style of tactics (reverting to counter attacking football of the early 2000s?) or he genuinely sees something in Vardy I don't (most likely the case) it seems like an intriguing signing if they pull it off. I don't think he's quite in the Jeffers mould who was a poacher was he not (you're the Everton fan!) - he's a bit more proven than him being in his prime as opposed to being a hot prospect, and without the injury crisis - though if he joins Arsenal he will probably break down! His pace and exploitation of spaces on the counter attack is excellent - hence his great goalscoring record, but with teams sitting deep and requiring that bit more composure, I'm not sure he is the man. And no doubt, many teams will sit deep against Arsenal as they always do. When Wilshere came on last night, I thought he showed exactly why he is an Arsenal player - he seemed relatively comfortable in tight situations - I'm a big fan of Wilshere and I think he's incredibly underrated as a player, as he can offer that final magic ball and is more comfortable on the ball than any other England player in my opinion. Without his injury crisis, I genuinely think he would have been approaching a world class player. But I'll put a wee cheeky bet on him to do well in the forthcoming Euros. The rest of England I couldn't give a shiny shite!
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 3, 2016 18:00:37 GMT -5
matt Same feelings about England as due to an ardent fan in my Mother I follow Russia! With the Jeffers comparison it was a poor one really, he was supposed to be the "fox in the box", as you say a goal poacher but his career died with 250 appearances in total and one England cap- he talked about it a bit in 2015 after he was forced to make a Twitter showing after rumours he had died, and he continues to work at Finch Farm coaching the young players as well as providing a cautionary tale to them of letting it go to their heads - Daily Mirror August 2015I think with Vardy the comparison was he is a very set type of player who plays off the shoulder on counter attacks (as opposed to a poacher), and has had an excellent season. My brother on the grounds of where we grew up is a big Leicester City fan, and has already heard he is asking for a four year deal at Arsenal though, which would mean he needs to keep his pace until at least 33 because that has been one of his key strengths, and it hinges on that and as you say switching the style of play- for what it's worth I don't think that he has any other style to give although Wenger may well prove me wrong, but is he worth a £20,000,000 gamble? Jack Wilshere could have been world class but the problem is by the second or third game he will need coating in bubble wrap, and like those before him such as Lentini, Ledley King, Pato, and even considering what he did achieve Marco van Basten he will probably always be unfulfilled in terms of playing time and honours.
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Post by matt on Jun 3, 2016 18:05:37 GMT -5
matt Same feelings about England as due to an ardent fan in my Mother I follow Russia! With the Jeffers comparison it was a poor one really, he was supposed to be the "fox in the box", as you say a goal poacher but his career died with 250 appearances in total and one England cap- he talked about it a bit in 2015 after he was forced to make a Twitter showing after rumours he had died, and he continues to work at Finch Farm coaching the young players as well as providing a cautionary tale to them of letting it go to their heads - Daily Mirror August 2015I think with Vardy the comparison was he is a very set type of player who plays off the shoulder on counter attacks (as opposed to a poacher), and has had an excellent season. My brother on the grounds of where we grew up is a big Leicester City fan, and has already heard he is asking for a four year deal at Arsenal though, which would mean he needs to keep his pace until at least 33 because that has been one of his key strengths, and it hinges on that and as you say switching the style of play- for what it's worth I don't think that he has any other style to give although Wenger may well prove me wrong, but is he worth a £20,000,000 gamble? Jack Wilshere could have been world class but the problem is by the second or third game he will need coating in bubble wrap, and like those before him such as Lentini, Ledley King, Pato, and even considering what he did achieve Marco van Basten he will probably always be unfulfilled in terms of playing time and honours. Yeah, he knows exactly what he's doing asking for such a lengthy contract. A three year deal is the best that most players can hope for, even for those in their mid 20s, let alone approaching 30. An insurance policy almost when he knows his legs have gone and his impact negligible. But Wenger doesn't seem like the kind of guy to go buy someone on a whim, and neither would he bow to the demands of others. Unless he's desperate - what with Guardiola and Mourinho in the league, and Klopp possibly working his magic on Liverpool, then maybe he realises he needs to pull out the stops on this window.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 3, 2016 18:18:02 GMT -5
mattI think that is exactly it, the Arsenal board as well have seen their traditional rivals strengthening both managers and playing squads, with the latter undoubtedly ramping up in the summer, and even fallen by the wayside clubs such as Everton and Sunderland have got substantial funds in place for the transfer window. All of this leaves Arsenal open to the possibility of slipping down the pecking order if they don't compete, so I can see why they would be looking to strengthen their side even if Wenger remains as it seems for the next season in place. Is Vardy the right man for improving their side? I personally don't think so but it may not matter even if he fails there if they invest in other players that they have been linked in, but that said they will be up against heavy spending from the two Manchester clubs, Chelsea and to a lesser extent the two Merseyside clubs as well as other PL sides and of course the big European sides, so perhaps this could be seen as a move for players that aren't going to be fought as hard for by other clubs (e.g. Pogba, Cavani) but could still perhaps prove to be a vital difference between CL qualification and a PL title.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 3, 2016 19:22:20 GMT -5
Arsene Wenger will extend his contract. And here's why: He's going to pre-determine when he leaves as to give the club time to prepare for the transition. Without such preparations currently in place means he's almost certain to extend. I.e., there's no signs that he's going anywhere, and actually evidence more to the contrary. matt First question would be transition to who Beady’s Here Now and surely a close season is the best time for a change, given that your top four rivals are all strengthening and even clubs such as (my team) Everton are preparing to invest heavily (only been around two decades coming ). That aside apparently Arsenal have triggered a circa £20,000,000 release clause in Jamie Vardy's contract- thoughts? Guardian Vardy to ArsenalWould wish the fella well myself but I can genuinely see him as a Francis Jeffers MKII as his style of play is nothing like Arsenal's, and I can't see the whole team being reshaped to suit a 29yo Striker off the back of one (admittedly very successful) season.
Ian Wright joined Arsenal in 1991 at 28 years old and spent 7 quality seasons with the Gunners. I'm no way comparing Vardy to Wrighty, but I am showing that - while I, too don't like that age - he's not necessarily too old.
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Jun 3, 2016 19:36:49 GMT -5
Arsenal the posh boys willie woofter club (not that there's anything wrong with that). Suits Beady’s Here Now down to a tee. Up the Arse-nal!
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 3, 2016 19:42:45 GMT -5
First question would be transition to who Beady’s Here Now and surely a close season is the best time for a change, given that your top four rivals are all strengthening and even clubs such as (my team) Everton are preparing to invest heavily (only been around two decades coming ). That aside apparently Arsenal have triggered a circa £20,000,000 release clause in Jamie Vardy's contract- thoughts? Guardian Vardy to ArsenalWould wish the fella well myself but I can genuinely see him as a Francis Jeffers MKII as his style of play is nothing like Arsenal's, and I can't see the whole team being reshaped to suit a 29yo Striker off the back of one (admittedly very successful) season.
Ian Wright joined Arsenal in 1991 at 28 years old and spent 7 quality seasons with the Gunners. I'm no way comparing Vardy to Wrighty, but I am showing that - while I, too don't like that age - he's not necessarily too old. I take your point but Ian Wright had a lot more to his all round game whereas Jamie Vardy for me is an off the shoulder ball chase and score striker, albeit a very good one the past season and a half. The age thing with Vardy comes into play as to me as I discussed with Matt because his main strength for his type of play is speed, and the reports from LCFC are if he goes to Arsenal he wants a four year deal which will hinge very much on maintaining his pace as losing this has finished better strikers such as Michael Owen. Interestingly SSN ticker at 11pm over here reported Man Utd had been made aware of his availability but were not interested, so I assume his agent has made the big clubs aware there is a clause in his contract in order to trigger a move. The only part that didn't make sense was apparently the clause is for CL clubs which is why Liverpool couldn't trigger it, so not sure why Man Utd would bid unless it was a "make an offer and see what response you get" type approach from the agent.
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Jun 3, 2016 19:47:26 GMT -5
Ian Wright joined Arsenal in 1991 at 28 years old and spent 7 quality seasons with the Gunners. I'm no way comparing Vardy to Wrighty, but I am showing that - while I, too don't like that age - he's not necessarily too old. I take your point but Ian Wright had a lot more to his all round game whereas Jamie Vardy for me is an off the shoulder ball chase and score striker, albeit a very good one the past season and a half. The age thing with Vardy comes into play as to me as I discussed with Matt because his main strength for his type of play is speed, and the reports from LCFC are if he goes to Arsenal he wants a four year deal which will hinge very much on maintaining his pace as losing this has finished better strikers such as Michael Owen. Interestingly SSN ticker at 11pm over here reported Man Utd had been made aware of his availability but were not interested, so I assume his agent has made the big clubs aware there is a clause in his contract in order to trigger a move. The only part that didn't make sense was apparently the clause is for CL clubs which is why Liverpool couldn't trigger it, so not sure why Man Utd would bid unless it was a "make an offer and see what response you get" type approach from the agent. Beady would suck Jamie Vardys gearknob if he'd play for Arse-nal next season. FACT. Yeah Yeah Yeah !!
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 3, 2016 20:01:35 GMT -5
I take your point but Ian Wright had a lot more to his all round game whereas Jamie Vardy for me is an off the shoulder ball chase and score striker, albeit a very good one the past season and a half. The age thing with Vardy comes into play as to me as I discussed with Matt because his main strength for his type of play is speed, and the reports from LCFC are if he goes to Arsenal he wants a four year deal which will hinge very much on maintaining his pace as losing this has finished better strikers such as Michael Owen. Interestingly SSN ticker at 11pm over here reported Man Utd had been made aware of his availability but were not interested, so I assume his agent has made the big clubs aware there is a clause in his contract in order to trigger a move. The only part that didn't make sense was apparently the clause is for CL clubs which is why Liverpool couldn't trigger it, so not sure why Man Utd would bid unless it was a "make an offer and see what response you get" type approach from the agent. Beady would suck Jamie Vardys gearknob if he'd play for Arse-nal next season. FACT. Yeah Yeah Yeah !! eva....
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Jun 3, 2016 20:04:18 GMT -5
Beady would suck Jamie Vardys gearknob if he'd play for Arse-nal next season. FACT. Yeah Yeah Yeah !! eva....
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jun 3, 2016 20:23:06 GMT -5
assuming vardy cant/wont back up his incredible season, i think a good comparison is james beattie...he had that one good season where he cracked 20+, got him an england call up, the next year (like all his previous ones) was average at best. similar styles of play aswell, tho vardy is a little more energetic.
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