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Post by matt on Jul 10, 2015 12:35:08 GMT -5
I'm half expecting a "live" video of Lock All the Doors or You Know We Can't Go Back over some arena / festival footage, something to promote for the festival season. I can't see it being for a single although there is a space for something until the remix ep shows up in the autumn. Any ideas whether the remix EP consists of the ones we've heard already or can we expect new remixes? Looked on David Holmes management profile and his works include 'Noel Gallagher', despite there having been no remix of past tunes I believe? www.solarmanagement.co.uk/Solar_Management/PDavid_Holmes.htmlI'd be happy with either though - its a shame to restrict those mixes to mere Soundcloud streams.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 10, 2015 12:39:03 GMT -5
I'm half expecting a "live" video of Lock All the Doors or You Know We Can't Go Back over some arena / festival footage, something to promote for the festival season. I can't see it being for a single although there is a space for something until the remix ep shows up in the autumn. Any ideas whether the remix EP consists of the ones we've heard already or can we expect new remixes? Looked on David Holmes management profile and his works include 'Noel Gallagher', despite there having been no remix of past tunes I believe? www.solarmanagement.co.uk/Solar_Management/PDavid_Holmes.htmlI'd be happy with either though - its a shame to restrict those mixes to mere Soundcloud streams. He could be the mistery producer Noel's working with
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Post by carlober on Jul 10, 2015 12:46:36 GMT -5
I'm half expecting a "live" video of Lock All the Doors or You Know We Can't Go Back over some arena / festival footage, something to promote for the festival season. I can't see it being for a single although there is a space for something until the remix ep shows up in the autumn. Any ideas whether the remix EP consists of the ones we've heard already or can we expect new remixes? Looked on David Holmes management profile and his works include 'Noel Gallagher', despite there having been no remix of past tunes I believe? www.solarmanagement.co.uk/Solar_Management/PDavid_Holmes.htmlI'd be happy with either though - its a shame to restrict those mixes to mere Soundcloud streams. Hopefully there's more. I'd really like to hear a Beyond the Wizard's Sleeve mix of While the Song Remains the Same. Unfortunately being an EP I think it won't be more than 5 or 6 songs, which probably means that we're getting the ones we have already heard and nothing else. Still hoping though...
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Post by 5upernova on Jul 10, 2015 13:09:41 GMT -5
If that image is taken from the video then it will be a live performance.
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Post by Jim on Jul 10, 2015 13:23:19 GMT -5
I'm half expecting a "live" video of Lock All the Doors or You Know We Can't Go Back over some arena / festival footage, something to promote for the festival season. I can't see it being for a single although there is a space for something until the remix ep shows up in the autumn. Any ideas whether the remix EP consists of the ones we've heard already or can we expect new remixes? Looked on David Holmes management profile and his works include 'Noel Gallagher', despite there having been no remix of past tunes I believe? www.solarmanagement.co.uk/Solar_Management/PDavid_Holmes.htmlI'd be happy with either though - its a shame to restrict those mixes to mere Soundcloud streams. That's a good spot on David Holmes website Matt. Noel is listed in his production section but not the remix section of the website so as DefMaybe00 has said he could be producing something which we haven't heard yet. Hopefully Holmes does remix a track though as his reworks of Primal Scream, Manics etc are excellent as is his own solo work. Nothing other than that PR site has officially mentioned the remix EP but it wouldn't surprise me if it's a mini album of all the released remixes plus another couple we have yet to hear. For definite I can see both Beyond The Wizard's Sleeve mixes being included along with the Weatherall remix and if it is only an EP then add another 3 tracks, possibly one of the Massive Attack versions of The Right Stuff and two more by other producers. I don't think either of the Toydrum reworks will be included as one is already widely available on the special edition so that's quite a bit of exposure. Noel may through a curveball and release an Amorphous Androgynous remix, they did state they were working on an alternative Chasing Yesterday so although it's a long shot we just don't know!
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Jul 10, 2015 15:11:31 GMT -5
If that image is taken from the video then it will be a live performance. Might be a video single composed of live performances because Noel coulsn't be arsed to record another video... The Dome is that forst gig Noel opened with IGTBF? Oh boy...
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jul 10, 2015 15:52:47 GMT -5
Noel mentions he met with David Holmes to produce Chasing Yesterday, after Sardy declined, only to be declined once again. My guess would be he's done a remix for the EP, seeing as he's done plenty before.
Interviewer: This is the first album you’ve ever produced without help from a co-producer. Why did you go it alone this time? Noel: It was by necessity. I took the songs in demo form to my producer of the last ten years, Dave Sardy. And he passed because he’s getting into the film industry, because obviously the music industry is dying on its fucking ass. Then I was meeting with the producer David Holmes, and I played him a few songs, and he said, “What do you want me to do? It’s already finished.” So I thought, Oh, okay! He gave me the confidence, and I went back in and finished it off.
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Post by matt on Jul 10, 2015 17:18:01 GMT -5
Any ideas whether the remix EP consists of the ones we've heard already or can we expect new remixes? Looked on David Holmes management profile and his works include 'Noel Gallagher', despite there having been no remix of past tunes I believe? www.solarmanagement.co.uk/Solar_Management/PDavid_Holmes.htmlI'd be happy with either though - its a shame to restrict those mixes to mere Soundcloud streams. That's a good spot on David Holmes website Matt. Noel is listed in his production section but not the remix section of the website so as DefMaybe00 has said he could be producing something which we haven't heard yet. Hopefully Holmes does remix a track though as his reworks of Primal Scream, Manics etc are excellent as is his own solo work. Nothing other than that PR site has officially mentioned the remix EP but it wouldn't surprise me if it's a mini album of all the released remixes plus another couple we have yet to hear. For definite I can see both Beyond The Wizard's Sleeve mixes being included along with the Weatherall remix and if it is only an EP then add another 3 tracks, possibly one of the Massive Attack versions of The Right Stuff and two more by other producers. I don't think either of the Toydrum reworks will be included as one is already widely available on the special edition so that's quite a bit of exposure. Noel may through a curveball and release an Amorphous Androgynous remix, they did state they were working on an alternative Chasing Yesterday so although it's a long shot we just don't know! It's a good shout that the 'remixes' don't list Noel, with only U2 and Primal Scream noted. But he's definitely produced albums by the artists in the list with Noel, so maybe it is that other album he's been working on...... It could very well be the case - we have no idea what Holmes discussed with Noel, but perhaps he stated he just couldn't produce electro-tinged tunes from Chasing Yesterday songs that were basically already fully formed from an acoustic guitar. Who knows - perhaps Noel showed him the instrumentals that he's been working on and Holmes prefers to work on them. After all, Noel's instrumentals like Teotihuacan and the backing track he provided to the Weller track Echoes Round The Sun seem more like the tunes Holmes would work on, so its just a guess that maybe Noel's got similar neo-psychedelic, electronic/trip-hop style instrumentals lying around. But his management profile seems to suggest something that is completed rather than being produced. Who knows, but either way, I'd love to hear the results of either a collaboration album or remix.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jul 11, 2015 5:20:48 GMT -5
Any ideas whether the remix EP consists of the ones we've heard already or can we expect new remixes? Looked on David Holmes management profile and his works include 'Noel Gallagher', despite there having been no remix of past tunes I believe? www.solarmanagement.co.uk/Solar_Management/PDavid_Holmes.htmlI'd be happy with either though - its a shame to restrict those mixes to mere Soundcloud streams. That's a good spot on David Holmes website Matt. Noel is listed in his production section but not the remix section of the website so as DefMaybe00 has said he could be producing something which we haven't heard yet. Hopefully Holmes does remix a track though as his reworks of Primal Scream, Manics etc are excellent as is his own solo work. Nothing other than that PR site has officially mentioned the remix EP but it wouldn't surprise me if it's a mini album of all the released remixes plus another couple we have yet to hear. For definite I can see both Beyond The Wizard's Sleeve mixes being included along with the Weatherall remix and if it is only an EP then add another 3 tracks, possibly one of the Massive Attack versions of The Right Stuff and two more by other producers. I don't think either of the Toydrum reworks will be included as one is already widely available on the special edition so that's quite a bit of exposure. Noel may through a curveball and release an Amorphous Androgynous remix, they did state they were working on an alternative Chasing Yesterday so although it's a long shot we just don't know! I must have missed something. How do we know that the remix EP is a reality and which website mentions it? EDIT: Nevermind, I found it by searching on the forum. Cool stuff, I was waiting for this. They should do the same with the NGHFB remixes at some point.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 12, 2015 15:57:43 GMT -5
Noel mentions he met with David Holmes to produce Chasing Yesterday, after Sardy declined, only to be declined once again. My guess would be he's done a remix for the EP, seeing as he's done plenty before. Interviewer: This is the first album you’ve ever produced without help from a co-producer. Why did you go it alone this time? Noel: It was by necessity. I took the songs in demo form to my producer of the last ten years, Dave Sardy. And he passed because he’s getting into the film industry, because obviously the music industry is dying on its fucking ass. Then I was meeting with the producer David Holmes, and I played him a few songs, and he said, “What do you want me to do? It’s already finished.” So I thought, Oh, okay! He gave me the confidence, and I went back in and finished it off.But apparently he is listed in the producer section and not the remix section on Holmes' website Maybe when the conversation ended David Holmes was like, "But I really like what you are doing. Maybe next time you are closer to beginning of process give me a call and I would like to work with you." I think the fact that David Holmes was mentioned to have turned down CY makes it more likely because he is exactly the guy that Noel would want to work with obviously. So when he began to think about a second album he obviously would have called David Holmes early in the process
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jul 12, 2015 17:12:53 GMT -5
Noel mentions he met with David Holmes to produce Chasing Yesterday, after Sardy declined, only to be declined once again. My guess would be he's done a remix for the EP, seeing as he's done plenty before. Interviewer: This is the first album you’ve ever produced without help from a co-producer. Why did you go it alone this time? Noel: It was by necessity. I took the songs in demo form to my producer of the last ten years, Dave Sardy. And he passed because he’s getting into the film industry, because obviously the music industry is dying on its fucking ass. Then I was meeting with the producer David Holmes, and I played him a few songs, and he said, “What do you want me to do? It’s already finished.” So I thought, Oh, okay! He gave me the confidence, and I went back in and finished it off.But apparently he is listed in the producer section and not the remix section on Holmes' website Maybe when the conversation ended David Holmes was like, "But I really like what you are doing. Maybe next time you are closer to beginning of process give me a call and I would like to work with you." I think the fact that David Holmes was mentioned to have turned down CY makes it more likely because he is exactly the guy that Noel would want to work with obviously. So when he began to think about a second album he obviously would have called David Holmes early in the process As we know Noel's not one for change and likes to stick with his guns. With Sardy out, Holmes is likely his go to guy, so any production work with him is very likely. He very clearly respects the guy... this was the most detailed quote I could find on their encounter: Noel: “The last I guy I contacted was David Holmes. He’s sat there in my office smoking rolls-up and says, ‘This is fucking great! What do you want me to do?’ I went, ‘What do I want you to do? Do what every other producer does – stand at the back, take a quarter of a million pounds off me, order food all day and then take the fucking credit!’ This is how great Holmer is – he said, ‘Man, I could do that for you but I’d be a fraud because you’re 90% of the way there. I’m not going to come in and press ‘play’ and record because that’s just taking the piss.’ And I went, ‘You know what? I fucking respect that.’ So I went back and finished it myself.”There's a good chance he's the producer Noel mentioned he had been working with state-side (he produced Primal Scream's latest in LA), but it's certainly not unconceivable that it's just remix work, something Noel could have easily enquired about when he told him to produce it himself. Website mixups happen all the time. It's a great spot though and I'd definitely say he's the significant front runner in the production compartment.
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Post by Frodis on Jul 14, 2015 15:42:11 GMT -5
If that image is taken from the video then it will be a live performance. Meh choice for final single. Would've preferred Right Stuff but whatever. Video was alright, but nothing special.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 15:47:30 GMT -5
If that image is taken from the video then it will be a live performance. Meh choice for final single. Would've preferred Right Stuff but whatever. Video was alright, but nothing special. As much as I love the song, The Right Stuff doesn't exactly scream 'summer single'. Personally, I would have gone with You Know We Can't Go Back.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 14, 2015 15:52:27 GMT -5
Meh choice for final single. Would've preferred Right Stuff but whatever. Video was alright, but nothing special. As much as I love the song, The Right Stuff doesn't exactly scream 'summer single'. Personally, I would have gone with You Know We Can't Go Back. It doesn't scream "single" anyway. A song can be great, but there's a lot to take into account when you pick something for a single. Not that it matters anyway, it will be in the chart for 2 weeks and will peak at three hundred fucking 95.
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Post by Frodis on Jul 14, 2015 18:54:11 GMT -5
As much as I love the song, The Right Stuff doesn't exactly scream 'summer single'. Personally, I would have gone with You Know We Can't Go Back. It doesn't scream "single" anyway. A song can be great, but there's a lot to take into account when you pick something for a single. Not that it matters anyway, it will be in the chart for 2 weeks and will peak at three hundred fucking 95. Yeah, but it sounds different than Oasis, which is (almost) exactly what You Know We Can't Go Back sounds like. But we all know Noel is afraid of trying new things (ahem, AA colab/album) so I guess this shouldn't be surprising. Grats to Noel for doing a video from the US tour, but in the end, meh.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 14, 2015 19:01:59 GMT -5
It doesn't scream "single" anyway. A song can be great, but there's a lot to take into account when you pick something for a single. Not that it matters anyway, it will be in the chart for 2 weeks and will peak at three hundred fucking 95. Yeah, but it sounds different than Oasis, which is (almost) exactly what You Know We Can't Go Back sounds like. But we all know Noel is afraid of trying new things (ahem, AA colab/album) so I guess this shouldn't be surprising. Grats to Noel for doing a video from the US tour, but in the end, meh. The Right Stuff is not a single
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Post by Frodis on Jul 14, 2015 19:05:01 GMT -5
Yeah, but it sounds different than Oasis, which is (almost) exactly what You Know We Can't Go Back sounds like. But we all know Noel is afraid of trying new things (ahem, AA colab/album) so I guess this shouldn't be surprising. Grats to Noel for doing a video from the US tour, but in the end, meh. The Right Stuff is not a single Maybe not to you. Would be refreshing to see Noel try something a little different than his usual M.O., but can't teach an old,curmudgeon-y dog new tricks.
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Post by leak4ever on Jul 14, 2015 19:26:28 GMT -5
Some songs would not make good singles, however good they are. I love Shes Electric, one of my favs, but it wouldnt have made a good single.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 15, 2015 2:00:06 GMT -5
It doesn't scream "single" anyway. A song can be great, but there's a lot to take into account when you pick something for a single. Not that it matters anyway, it will be in the chart for 2 weeks and will peak at three hundred fucking 95. Yeah, but it sounds different than Oasis, which is (almost) exactly what You Know We Can't Go Back sounds like. But we all know Noel is afraid of trying new things (ahem, AA colab/album) so I guess this shouldn't be surprising. Grats to Noel for doing a video from the US tour, but in the end, meh. No, it's just not You have to put out a summer single, you either choose YKWCGB or LATD cause those songs fit as summer singles Sometimes it's like you all forget the guy wrote 8 #1 singles and the majority of 9 #1 albums
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 15, 2015 11:26:05 GMT -5
Some songs would not make good singles, however good they are. I love Shes Electric, one of my favs, but it wouldnt have made a good single. Really? I think it would have made a perfect single... Granted, perhaps not for a band who'd just released an album with Wonderwall, DLBIA, Some Might Say, Morning Glory, and Champagne Supernova on it, but for regular bands (including latter day Oasis), it would fit the bill perfectly. I don't know if you still live in Japan or what, but in Britain, She's Electric still receives A LOT of radio play, as far as Oasis records go.
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Post by Gas Panic on Jul 15, 2015 12:25:00 GMT -5
Some songs would not make good singles, however good they are. I love Shes Electric, one of my favs, but it wouldnt have made a good single. Really? I think it would have made a perfect single... Granted, perhaps not for a band who'd just released an album with Wonderwall, DLBIA, Some Might Say, Morning Glory, and Champagne Supernova on it, but for regular bands (including latter day Oasis), it would fit the bill perfectly. I don't know if you still live in Japan or what, but in Britain, She's Electric still receives A LOT of radio play, as far as Oasis records go. It's not uncommon to hear instrumental segments of she's electric on tv programs in the UK
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Post by jaq515 on Jul 15, 2015 12:55:27 GMT -5
Really? I think it would have made a perfect single... Granted, perhaps not for a band who'd just released an album with Wonderwall, DLBIA, Some Might Say, Morning Glory, and Champagne Supernova on it, but for regular bands (including latter day Oasis), it would fit the bill perfectly. I don't know if you still live in Japan or what, but in Britain, She's Electric still receives A LOT of radio play, as far as Oasis records go. It's not uncommon to hear instrumental segments of she's electric on tv programs in the UK i was going to say the same, the amount of royalties they must get from homes under the hammer (and all those shows) must be insane
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Post by Gin & Tonic on Jul 15, 2015 14:37:57 GMT -5
Some songs would not make good singles, however good they are. I love Shes Electric, one of my favs, but it wouldnt have made a good single. Really? I think it would have made a perfect single... Granted, perhaps not for a band who'd just released an album with Wonderwall, DLBIA, Some Might Say, Morning Glory, and Champagne Supernova on it, but for regular bands (including latter day Oasis), it would fit the bill perfectly. I don't know if you still live in Japan or what, but in Britain, She's Electric still receives A LOT of radio play, as far as Oasis records go. Agreed, I hear She's Electric a lot. It's played at the football all the time in Scotland and is probably the best known song on WTSMG outside of the singles, Morning Glory and Champagne Supernova.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 15, 2015 14:42:04 GMT -5
Really? I think it would have made a perfect single... Granted, perhaps not for a band who'd just released an album with Wonderwall, DLBIA, Some Might Say, Morning Glory, and Champagne Supernova on it, but for regular bands (including latter day Oasis), it would fit the bill perfectly. I don't know if you still live in Japan or what, but in Britain, She's Electric still receives A LOT of radio play, as far as Oasis records go. Agreed, I hear She's Electric a lot. It's played at the football all the time in Scotland and is probably the best known song on WTSMG outside of the singles, Morning Glory and Champagne Supernova. That's not hard, considering the only songs left besides She's Electric would be the two untitled tracks and Hello
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Post by Gin & Tonic on Jul 15, 2015 14:46:10 GMT -5
Agreed, I hear She's Electric a lot. It's played at the football all the time in Scotland and is probably the best known song on WTSMG outside of the singles, Morning Glory and Champagne Supernova. That's not hard, considering the only songs left besides She's Electric would be the two untitled tracks and Hello And Hey Now! and Cast No Shadow... If you're going to be pedantic at least get it right
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