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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 17:31:26 GMT -5
Were the album sales bad? Were the concerts sold out? To be honest, I prefer BE to Chasing Yesterday. For me Noel miss power in his voice to sing an entire album.
I cried yesterday when I saw the film Start Anew from Beady Eye
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on May 8, 2015 17:46:27 GMT -5
As a band, I'm sure they could have gone on. Album sales weren't great, but they still charted ok and sold enough to make a living. Same goes for most tours AFAIk (although the BE tour obviously went very badly for many reasons).
As the de facto successor of Oasis and the band of Liam Gallagher, yeah, they failed.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 17:56:56 GMT -5
As a band, I'm sure they could have gone on. Album sales weren't great, but they still charted ok and sold enough to make a living. Same goes for most tours AFAIk (although the BE tour obviously went very badly for many reasons). As the de facto successor of Oasis and the band of Liam Gallagher, yeah, they failed. AFAIk? |
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Post by eva on May 8, 2015 18:08:17 GMT -5
As a band, I'm sure they could have gone on. Album sales weren't great, but they still charted ok and sold enough to make a living. Same goes for most tours AFAIk (although the BE tour obviously went very badly for many reasons). As the de facto successor of Oasis and the band of Liam Gallagher, yeah, they failed. AFAIk? it means "as far as I know" there are multiple threads on this subject. Check the past pages |
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Post by carl80 on May 10, 2015 7:23:24 GMT -5
Not for me, two really good albums. BE is a great album. Pity there was no one in the group who could write a tune like Noel.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 10, 2015 7:33:20 GMT -5
Considering they were pretty much Oasis without Noel, and had Liam as a bandleader, and when you then look at their sales, yes. Yes, they have failed.
This is not about "no for me they haven't because I like their music". This is purely looking at their sales, and where they came from.
They could have made a third album, but they didn't. And no one in the band seems sad about that.
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Post by scott1 on May 10, 2015 8:22:45 GMT -5
I don't think it was an actual goal of theirs to be bigger than Oasis. Liam said that because it's one of those token Liam claims that comes with every album.
So in that respect, I don't think they failed.
However, I believe their true goal was to maintain their momentum coming out of Oasis. This they did for a while, but the BE tour was endless bad luck that eventually neutered the momentum they'd kept.
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Post by cigsandalc on May 10, 2015 10:29:31 GMT -5
Music-wise no (which is more important to me), sales/ticketsales/success-wise - yes.
There was so much they should have done different imo. Single choices, their whole marketing strategy for example. And then Liams private issues and Gems injury didnt help at the end.
Im glad they released what they released and i think they should have made at least one more album but its not my choice of course.
Only hope Liam comes back with some fantastic music in whatever way (Collaborating, Solo, Complete new Band,.. i dont care as long as he sings the songs)
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Post by lamboasis on May 10, 2015 11:37:22 GMT -5
I like the albums, so no.
Commercially speaking well, they failed. The Different Gear, Still Speeding era was good. Gold disc, they charted at #3 because they were in the middle of the Adele's explosion and Jessie J (...) released a record the same day. All the singles charted.
'BE' era was very poor. I mean, releasing an album in June and playing the UK tour in november is just stupid for a band like Beady Eye. Also Gem, you know, was unlucky. Plus Liam's child scandal and all that didn't help. At least they ended the BE era with their biggest solo gig at Yokohama Arena in Tokyo.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on May 10, 2015 15:53:19 GMT -5
I wish that my band would fail like that in the charts^^
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on May 10, 2015 17:05:41 GMT -5
had they kept going i think they would of been great not oasis great but great the thing is liam split beady eye and the group started when noel left oasis,,what were beady eye gonna do continue if liam left start with annew singer that defo wouldnt of worked as he was the voice of that band like he was in oasis i dont think thwy failed in a way the toured a great deal with 2 albums so who knows what could of came next had liam not had all the shit going on,,divorces ,,love childs etc that mans his own worst enemy,,lets see what he does next if he does anything
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Post by leak4ever on May 10, 2015 18:03:17 GMT -5
Complete and utter failures by every conceivable measure.
Having said that, BE is very close to being the second best post-Oasis release by a Gallagher in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 18:04:06 GMT -5
To be honest, I prefer BE to Chasing Yesterday
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Post by World71R on May 10, 2015 21:09:06 GMT -5
Complete and utter failures by every conceivable measure. Having said that, BE is very close to being the second best post-Oasis release by a Gallagher in my opinion. With a few changes to the track listing, I'd argue it's better than the NGHFB, for the fantastic production and good songs on it. A lot of Liam's contributions (Shine a Light and Don't Brother Me [would've been a better instrumental]) really let the album down, and it's a shame, too, because you had songs like Evil Eye, from him, waiting in the wings. |
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Post by rekrelf on May 11, 2015 1:52:52 GMT -5
Yes, sadly the project BE failed!
For a new band, I think that sucess would be really good! But not for a band with 100% band members who had already massive sucess!!! It must be a bad feeling, to play in front of 400 people and it's not sold out, if you played before two years in front of 90.000...
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Post by carlober on May 11, 2015 3:02:16 GMT -5
As a band, I'm sure they could have gone on. Album sales weren't great, but they still charted ok and sold enough to make a living. Same goes for most tours AFAIk (although the BE tour obviously went very badly for many reasons). As the de facto successor of Oasis and the band of Liam Gallagher, yeah, they failed. This. 100% this. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 11, 2015 5:51:49 GMT -5
As I've already said,they failed if compared to how big they were before,but most bands nowadays could only dream to have their sales and success,surely if Liam wanted they could have carried on
Are Ride bigger than Beady Eye?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 6:05:18 GMT -5
As I've already said,they failed if compared to how big they were before,but most bands nowadays could only dream to have their sales and success,surely if Liam wanted they could have carried on Are Ride bigger than Beady Eye? I never listened to their music to be honest, are they good? Which album should I listen to know them better? |
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 11, 2015 6:09:58 GMT -5
As I've already said,they failed if compared to how big they were before,but most bands nowadays could only dream to have their sales and success,surely if Liam wanted they could have carried on Are Ride bigger than Beady Eye? I never listened to their music to be honest, are they good? Which album should I listen to know them better? They're great,Nowhere is a classic,you should start from that one |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 7:43:13 GMT -5
I never listened to their music to be honest, are they good? Which album should I listen to know them better? They're great,Nowhere is a classic,you should start from that one Thanks  |
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Post by frogerz on May 11, 2015 8:21:03 GMT -5
Compared to Oasis, yes. But other artists certainly not, I'M sure people like Miles Kane would have loved their album sales.
Their management was a main factor behind them failing, no big gigs to get some real buzz about the band. Castlefield or Manchester Arena would have been ideal.
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Post by shinealight on May 11, 2015 8:28:57 GMT -5
It depends on your expectation I guess. It was granted Liam they could never be as big or good as Oasis, on other hand they delivered one decent and one great (IMHO) album... With more luck and better promo could have done better, but considering the fact Liam is the last rock'n'roll star out there... they did not fail but their mission was not accomplished |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 11, 2015 10:03:38 GMT -5
As I've already said,they failed if compared to how big they were before,but most bands nowadays could only dream to have their sales and success,surely if Liam wanted they could have carried on Are Ride bigger than Beady Eye? I never listened to their music to be honest, are they good? Which album should I listen to know them better? Not sure about albums but when you listen to Vapour Trail you will ask yourself how it's possible that Andy came up with mostly shit songs in Oasis. |
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Post by themanwithnoname on May 11, 2015 10:43:00 GMT -5
To answer your question, DGSS sold 200,000 copies and Liam for one was saying before BE was released that if they didn't do better second time round he'd call it a day. So when BE sold just 75,000 and the gigs failed to sell out then the writing was on the wall.
For me, I wouldn't say they were a failure because I enjoy many of their songs (although definitely not all of them).
They really did suffer from the fact that they couldn't write a couple of killer hits to really get momentum going.
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Post by Guy Fawkes on May 11, 2015 10:45:46 GMT -5
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