And/or the singer's voice/singing!
Even though I prefer the way it sounds on BE. But still ...

The four letter word: 8/10
Millionaire: 6.5/10
The Roller: 8.5/10
Beatles and stones: 6/10
Wind up dream: 5/10
Bring the light 5/10
Three ring circus: 6/10
The beat goes on 6.5/10
The morning son: 8.5/10

only rated the ones i listen to

I can't the get all the hate for BTL. It is a top boogie woogie song, groovy as fuck. It would have become a classic had it been released in the 50s.

Yes it was probably a bad choice for a single, but I was talking about the song rather than the opportunity to release it as a single. In that respect, I don't care for 'what's going on at the minute in music' when judging a tune.

still the worst gallagher related output. never listen to that. bad songs (just a few decent) and worse production.

DGSS is still just negligibly average. There are some flashes and highlights, but I can't call any album "excellent" when it has duds like Millionaire, Beatles and Stones (seriously, who thought up that title?), Wind Up Dream, Three Ring Circus, The Beat Goes On, and Standing on the Edge of the Noise (literally, the worst Gallagher related song ever. The worst. That's note even hyperbole.). There are too many explanations that have to be thrown it's way, too many songs that only show flashes, too many poor lyrics, and lazy instrumentation. That's not what I think of when I hear an "excellent" album. What exactly on DGSS is excellent with the exception of Liam's voice? Excellent would say you hit something out of the ballpark. The Roller is a good song, but excellent? The Morning Son is a good song, but excellent? How is Bring the Light being called excellent? It's MUCH better than people give it credit for, but excellent? Four Letter Word probably gets the closest to that distinction. The rest is barely scrapping average.

There's a reason Beady Eye lost over a half to a third of their fanbase in a matter of a year and it wasn't completely down to a choice of single. Some of it had to do with the quality of the album. When your most ardent fans give-up then what does that tell you about the quality of an album? If DGSS was excellent then I don't want to know what that makes BE? The best album ever? No, I'll reserve excellent for something that deserves it, not DGSS.

It's still one of the few albums, next to HC, that no matter how many times I listen to, no matter the mood, or the day, it doesn't get better. In fact, it gets worse. It becomes too much to excuse what's on there. I wish it hadn't been made. I wish they had spent more time writing instead of trying to prove something. Think if they had taken the best bits of DGSS and BE? But you know what? When it takes two albums worth of material to make a decent to good album it says a lot about the material available and the band. It says they're average at best.

The problem with Bring The Light, crapness aside, is that it didn't appeal to anyone. Not the general public nor his loyal fans.

I'm an Oasis fan but the song didn't appeal to me at all. And it wasn't the type of song that would appeal to the masses either. So who's gonna buy it?

As you said, there were much better songs on DGSS and yet they chose a stupid Jerry Lee Lewis rip off. With decisions like that, are we surprised that Beady Eye became a joke of a band?

'Bring The Light' seems to be one of these love/hate songs not unlike equally polarising songs 'Force of Nature' and 'She Is Love'. These songs are so boneheaded and catchy (at least compared to other songs on their respective albums), that I struggle to see why so many seem to be detest them. These are Liam and Noel songs, you can't expect every song to be 'Champagne Supernova' and not expect a 'Digsy's Dinner' or 'She's Electric' thrown in.

I personally though that either 'Bring the Light' or 'The Roller' were the perfect choice for lead single. Not because they're amazing or single worthy in the context of Oasis but simply because the rest of the album is so average. For me, these 2 songs were easily the brightest spots of the album with maybe 'Four Letter Word' being the only other song doing much for me.

I really don't get all this, "oh, if only this single came out first" talk. At the end of the day if the songs were there, there'd of been more fans regardless. A poor album followed by much better one.

Havent heard this one in full for the past... 4 years. I guess it's time to revist it for one more review

1) The intro of 4LW is amazing, from the get go no BS. My only issue with the song is the Nothing Ever Last FOrevah before the first solo, everything else is Beady Eye at it's finest... OMG that's the 4lw NELF

2) Millionaire is a lovely acoustic song... Until Liam starts singing about being loved like a lover and sounds already tired/nasally in the album

3) The Roller is nice, but I cant recall any lyrics before I hear the song, the great solo played by Gem is one of the best of the album

4) Let's not mention the name of this atrocity, the less said about this the better. It keeps the momentum of the record and it beats me MAMAAAAAH. I will get out of the way as soon it's over Liam.

5) Wind Up Dream, I think the chorus says it all about this album

"It's just a wind up dream
So don't wake me up
'Cause I like what I see
With my eyes shut"

Nice harmonica solo, but the final seconds are annoying

6) It's sextacy! should have been a minute(or two?) shorter than it is, fun track BUT FFS this isn't the first thing you show to the world after OASIS you give a preview of a guitar from a song that isn't on this album and then you deliver this and ask to be taken seriously? I dont get it, and I'll never will

Baby come on! Baby Fuck off

Sometimes you dont want to show all the tune in the studio version and I really think this should have been a B-side at best/forgotten album track at it's worst

7)For Anyone 2 Minutes that repeats the same thing over and over again, I honestly didn't tought it was possible to be repetitive in this short amount of time. Another verse(with other lyrics) could've helped the fate of this one. In-out of my mind

8) The lowlight of the album, is this song about Liam throwing a plum/breaking someone's guitar and not wanting to face the consecuences of it? Because it feels that way. The melodies are great but the lyrics are atrocious. A higher bpm would help, this is the Little James(a minute of Nananananana... batman for fun, 20 seconds and a fade out would've worked better) of the album and it wasn't written by Liam! but rather Andy.

9) STOTEN Yes Liam/Andy/Gem we were rolling in anticipation for your album, but this isn't worth it. Get back to where you all belong. Great bootleg title, but atrocious song.(contender for lowlight of album as well).

10) Wigwam is a great song, why is it burried after all that's before?(something I'll further discuss later) Sha-lalala's are rather lovely. The echo on liam voice before the I'm coming up is annoying. Chris is starting one of the best moments right now, but it shouldn't take more than a minute to do it. Yes, Liam Im hearing you coming. The best track from drumming part. The sha-lalalalas are not good in the outro. A minute or two less could help with the long time this record has been going.

11) The three ring circus going raaaaawnddddd The sound you're asking for is something post 60's so you wont like it. I wonder if they actually used all the songs that were rejected in Oasis or did they also written songs for this one? Because the B-sides were miles better on this album

12) Beat goes on, if this is the song that the angels will sing to me I would rather go to hell. It tries to be anthem but feels anemic, like something is missing. And if your heart isnt beating you're dead Liam. And for me is the end of the day(11:55 pm for me as I write this)

13) And we get to The morning son

You'll never know, unless you try, you're blinding by what you idleise.
I stand alone, nobody knows the morning. the sun is roll he in my light
He's in my sole he's even in my rock and roll

Are these the lyrics? because if it isn't someone fucked up on their youtube channel. The less said about the echo on Liams voce the better. The Keyboards finally work after god knows how long. Chris kills it in this one.

And after a frenzy outro we are done. It's not that bad, but not that good, too many songs that are just there, dont hit you, but when they do it usually not for the better.

I think I'm the only one that appreciates Kill For A Dream. It has a great opening line (I consider it their best line of all their songs), and I think a good melody, just not a very good chorus. The solo is pretty basic, but I still think it's catchy. Most of the other lyrics are shit, but does Beady Eye really have many good lyrical moments in general? Of course not.


Let's be honest here, none of us listen to Beady Eye for their prophetic, insightful lyrics. We listen for that occasional spark of melodic genius. It doesn't happen very often and it's usually only very brief, but when it does happen, it makes it worth listening to.

4 years later, I think it's a pretty shit album in comparison to what they were capable of. BE blows it out of the water. Better songs and more consistency. But DGSS does have its shining moments.

Highlights:

The Morning Son
Wigwam
Millionaire
The Roller

The rest of the songs are average (Four Letter Word) to plain bad (Standing On The Edge Of The Noise). Some more good ones, but none that really stand out. Even Kill For A Dream, which as I mentioned I really love, plods on.

Something else that makes this album nearly unlistenable, is the graininess. I swore my files were bad, it just didn't sound right and when the album arrived in the mail, I was saddened to see it wasn't the file quality, but the songs themselves.

I understand they were going for that 60's sound, but it's just dreadful and is one of the contributing factors which make this album so bland. It's why so many of these songs perform better live, because the mastering that was done is just awful. If you've ever bothered to put it in audacity or a similar program and look at the wavelengths, the highs and lows...it's a wall of sound, a large blob of solid color...It's ridiculous. They should have worked on it some more. Brought in another producer that knew what they were doing. Who finished this album after Lillywhite fled? Wasn't it Andy? My advice to him would be to stay away from production.