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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 8:54:04 GMT -5
Noels just got a way about him that you know hes only out for himself, love his music but I wouldnt be having him as a person, cant trust the guy, snidey as shit.
Noel likes safe, its why he stuck with dave "plodder" sardy, if he doesnt shake it up for HFB 3 I can assure you he never will.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Feb 15, 2017 9:52:05 GMT -5
Gaz posted a "note to Oasis fans". There's even a nod to my LSD/anti-vaccine joke (For the record, nothing against tofu here. Tofu is awesome!)
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A note to OASIS fans :
I'm aware of the fact you're analyzing my words . I only became aware of it recently when someone posted a link . Reading through your forum has inspired in me belief even you have been short changed and certainly helps dissolve this idea that people are all ignorant to simply turn everything into sides / teams / petty wars .... In fact it's been very informative and I'm happy to see actually most of you are delighted to have insight into this album
I'd love to talk positively of all the wonderful aspects of this album , but y'see I cannot win since you'd think I was hyping it and you up and that somehow its bullshit or self propaganda so unfortunately only anecdotes that illustrate my objective are relevant
What is my objective ? Unlike Noel who has daily access to the media and huge power to create and build propaganda / stories to suit his end over time ( I used to do it as FSOL - literally create my own propaganda building on stuff from previous interviews ( cos it's only when you read it you start realizing how it's coming across and whether you like it or not ? So talking through the press is also a very creative process ) So back to the point , we run a small label and don't even hire press people so press is very scant and we have no power so redressing the way Noel has done this for several years is impossible - his word has become the facts of it !
I can't reverse them but I have realized I am absolutely free to speak . This world relies on silence to support the bullshit. My silence has been bought by the lure of future work / commerce / reputation / other prospective music to be released and it's only by saying ' to fuck ' with the consequences to that I can truly give my voice
I have decided my voice is the most important thing NOT these other considerations which buy silence .
Noel is aided by the silence of many . It does him no favors . I'm NOT playing the celeb game and conspiring anymore .
Yes it's detailed , it's 2 years ( more when you consider chasing yesterday and watching our work constantly being utilized in part and our conversations about that )
If you think the detail makes us untrustworthy then that's for you to assess . If you prefer the dismissive silence of your ' chief ' that is also your preference . You don't learn anything by that tho do you ? If that inspires you that's your preference , but it's not my bag . I'm used to communication , complexity & honesty to arrive at the finish line and I was prepared for anything !!
All that happened was we finished stage 1 of a great album , looked up to start the fun stuff of actively hearing opinions ( strong ones we hoped !!) and collaborating with them but he was off to tour an album we never even knew about !
It is only my side . But it's a side that reveals the most since bar a month in the studio and mixing the new tracks only ( shoot a hole / Mexican / right stuff ) I'm not convinced they did anything more HE DID NONE OF THE WORK so he doesn't really have much to say If you'd like to assume the rest was shit that is also your prerogative but the question remains why were we scheduled to remix the whole of ( whatever WE wanted ) from CHASING YESTERDAY then And why did we work for 2 years And listen to his press conference and the way he talks about it ? at what stage did it become shit ?? Oh yeh - when I started putting our side with our limited powers ( read the previous post where I detail how I wasn't in control of this and how I bailed responding )
Pretty obvious it don't stack up
I am here and am happy to speak about matters relating to the album that illustrate my objective ( to put our side and to show the extent of love , creativity and thought that went into it ) but I'm not interested in filling out the nerdish fanboy detail that doesn't relate to this . Hope you understand that
Peace to all ( free tofu / LSD and anti vacc information sheets too )
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 10:25:54 GMT -5
Vegans don't get angry. They get even. By sleeping with your friends. Or making beautiful experimental music with them behind your back then eating filthy dark chocolate together afterwards. haha i bet he's hiding some of Noel's sessions in the recordings that will only be heard if you eat tofu while playing the record backward at 27.5 rpm. Because 33 is too mainstream. ^February 2016Damn, Gaz did a proper read through as well
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Post by mossy on Feb 15, 2017 10:30:57 GMT -5
Noels just got a way about him that you know hes only out for himself, love his music but I wouldnt be having him as a person, cant trust the guy, snidey as shit. Noel likes safe, its why he stuck with dave "plodder" sardy, if he doesnt shake it up for HFB 3 I can assure you he never will. Precedent is definitely there. The Real People really supported Noel and Oasis's early career, helping show Noel how to write and record songs properly - and how does he thank them? By brazenly stealing from them!
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Post by mossy on Feb 15, 2017 10:31:38 GMT -5
haha i bet he's hiding some of Noel's sessions in the recordings that will only be heard if you eat tofu while playing the record backward at 27.5 rpm. Because 33 is too mainstream. ^February 2016Damn, Gaz did a proper read through as well I hope my speculative sausage stories didn't bring back too many painful memories!
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Feb 15, 2017 10:35:56 GMT -5
Gaz posted a "note to Oasis fans". There's even a nod to my LSD/anti-vaccine joke (For the record, nothing against tofu here. Tofu is awesome!)
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A note to OASIS fans :
I'm aware of the fact you're analyzing my words . I only became aware of it recently when someone posted a link . Reading through your forum has inspired in me belief even you have been short changed and certainly helps dissolve this idea that people are all ignorant to simply turn everything into sides / teams / petty wars .... In fact it's been very informative and I'm happy to see actually most of you are delighted to have insight into this album
I'd love to talk positively of all the wonderful aspects of this album , but y'see I cannot win since you'd think I was hyping it and you up and that somehow its bullshit or self propaganda so unfortunately only anecdotes that illustrate my objective are relevant
What is my objective ? Unlike Noel who has daily access to the media and huge power to create and build propaganda / stories to suit his end over time ( I used to do it as FSOL - literally create my own propaganda building on stuff from previous interviews ( cos it's only when you read it you start realizing how it's coming across and whether you like it or not ? So talking through the press is also a very creative process ) So back to the point , we run a small label and don't even hire press people so press is very scant and we have no power so redressing the way Noel has done this for several years is impossible - his word has become the facts of it !
I can't reverse them but I have realized I am absolutely free to speak . This world relies on silence to support the bullshit. My silence has been bought by the lure of future work / commerce / reputation / other prospective music to be released and it's only by saying ' to fuck ' with the consequences to that I can truly give my voice
I have decided my voice is the most important thing NOT these other considerations which buy silence .
Noel is aided by the silence of many . It does him no favors . I'm NOT playing the celeb game and conspiring anymore .
Yes it's detailed , it's 2 years ( more when you consider chasing yesterday and watching our work constantly being utilized in part and our conversations about that )
If you think the detail makes us untrustworthy then that's for you to assess . If you prefer the dismissive silence of your ' chief ' that is also your preference . You don't learn anything by that tho do you ? If that inspires you that's your preference , but it's not my bag . I'm used to communication , complexity & honesty to arrive at the finish line and I was prepared for anything !!
All that happened was we finished stage 1 of a great album , looked up to start the fun stuff of actively hearing opinions ( strong ones we hoped !!) and collaborating with them but he was off to tour an album we never even knew about !
It is only my side . But it's a side that reveals the most since bar a month in the studio and mixing the new tracks only ( shoot a hole / Mexican / right stuff ) I'm not convinced they did anything more HE DID NONE OF THE WORK so he doesn't really have much to say If you'd like to assume the rest was shit that is also your prerogative but the question remains why were we scheduled to remix the whole of ( whatever WE wanted ) from CHASING YESTERDAY then And why did we work for 2 years And listen to his press conference and the way he talks about it ? at what stage did it become shit ?? Oh yeh - when I started putting our side with our limited powers ( read the previous post where I detail how I wasn't in control of this and how I bailed responding )
Pretty obvious it don't stack up
I am here and am happy to speak about matters relating to the album that illustrate my objective ( to put our side and to show the extent of love , creativity and thought that went into it ) but I'm not interested in filling out the nerdish fanboy detail that doesn't relate to this . Hope you understand that
Peace to all ( free tofu / LSD and anti vacc information sheets too ) Ah shit. My username username is working against me! Maybe I'll go back to LSD JESUS. Yeahhh... I reckon he'll like that. So, * ahem * let me rephrase my question: "Gaz, from your mind bending perspective could you illustrate how your extent of love, creativity and thought propagated your brain, channelled through the ether, rode astral plane and TELL ME THE GODDAMN TRACKLIST YOU DIRTY HIPPY!!" Peace & love, LSD JESUS
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Post by mossy on Feb 15, 2017 10:41:18 GMT -5
I can hear the girls typing some hot fanfics about NoelxGaz Beads of sweat began to form on Noel's brow. "I'm not sure about this Gaz" he whispered. Gaz looked stern. "Noel, to be a true artist you have to try new things. They might be scary at first, but they'll make you better and stronger." Noel looked apprehensive. "It's just too long Gaz!" "Nonsense! I'd be happier if it was longer to be honest with you!" Noel looked pained. "It just won't fit!" he exclaimed. "Goddamit Noel, if we can't fit this 37 minute version of The Mexican on there we'll just make it a double album!"
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Post by mossy on Feb 15, 2017 10:48:11 GMT -5
Noel Diva Gallagher...this might be the best one "You've left the rind on this bacon sandwich! I specifically asked for the rinds to be cut off! How the hell am I supposed to make music under these conditions! Get the hell out of this studio, I never want to see your fooking face again!!" ...the real reason the AA album got cancelled.
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Post by mossy on Feb 15, 2017 10:49:28 GMT -5
The cold flesh of the pork and parsley sausage slapped Gaz's cheek like the hand of a jealous and angered lover. He sighed. "Not again..." "This sausage has herbs in it!" shrieked Noel. A stray dog passing by the studio window howled mournfully. "We've discussed this before Noel." sighed Gaz. "You need to get into the studio before midday because that's when the greasy spoon stops serving breakfasts. If you're going to arrive late in the afternoon Pret is the only option and they only do pork and parsley sausage baguettes." Noel's monobrow was clenched into a hateful v. "Some of us quite like the extra flavour..." Gaz ventured hopefully. "I wrote fookin' Don't Look Back In Anger" screamed Noel. "Those lazy bastards can make me a plain Richmond sausage baguette whatever time of the day. DON'T THEY KNOW WHO I AM!?!" Silently, in the background unheard and unseen, Brian lit a spliff. Noel turned to the African nose-flute orchestra who had been stunned into shocked silence by his unexpected fury. "You can all fook right off too. This album's over!" As the door slammed shut, a Papua New Guinea platinum disc that had been mounted on the wall fell and shattered with a crash...
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Post by mossy on Feb 15, 2017 11:03:45 GMT -5
Gaz posted a "note to Oasis fans". There's even a nod to my LSD/anti-vaccine joke (For the record, nothing against tofu here. Tofu is awesome!)
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A note to OASIS fans :
I'm aware of the fact you're analyzing my words . I only became aware of it recently when someone posted a link . Reading through your forum has inspired in me belief even you have been short changed and certainly helps dissolve this idea that people are all ignorant to simply turn everything into sides / teams / petty wars .... In fact it's been very informative and I'm happy to see actually most of you are delighted to have insight into this album
I'd love to talk positively of all the wonderful aspects of this album , but y'see I cannot win since you'd think I was hyping it and you up and that somehow its bullshit or self propaganda so unfortunately only anecdotes that illustrate my objective are relevant
What is my objective ? Unlike Noel who has daily access to the media and huge power to create and build propaganda / stories to suit his end over time ( I used to do it as FSOL - literally create my own propaganda building on stuff from previous interviews ( cos it's only when you read it you start realizing how it's coming across and whether you like it or not ? So talking through the press is also a very creative process ) So back to the point , we run a small label and don't even hire press people so press is very scant and we have no power so redressing the way Noel has done this for several years is impossible - his word has become the facts of it !
I can't reverse them but I have realized I am absolutely free to speak . This world relies on silence to support the bullshit. My silence has been bought by the lure of future work / commerce / reputation / other prospective music to be released and it's only by saying ' to fuck ' with the consequences to that I can truly give my voice
I have decided my voice is the most important thing NOT these other considerations which buy silence .
Noel is aided by the silence of many . It does him no favors . I'm NOT playing the celeb game and conspiring anymore .
Yes it's detailed , it's 2 years ( more when you consider chasing yesterday and watching our work constantly being utilized in part and our conversations about that )
If you think the detail makes us untrustworthy then that's for you to assess . If you prefer the dismissive silence of your ' chief ' that is also your preference . You don't learn anything by that tho do you ? If that inspires you that's your preference , but it's not my bag . I'm used to communication , complexity & honesty to arrive at the finish line and I was prepared for anything !!
All that happened was we finished stage 1 of a great album , looked up to start the fun stuff of actively hearing opinions ( strong ones we hoped !!) and collaborating with them but he was off to tour an album we never even knew about !
It is only my side . But it's a side that reveals the most since bar a month in the studio and mixing the new tracks only ( shoot a hole / Mexican / right stuff ) I'm not convinced they did anything more HE DID NONE OF THE WORK so he doesn't really have much to say If you'd like to assume the rest was shit that is also your prerogative but the question remains why were we scheduled to remix the whole of ( whatever WE wanted ) from CHASING YESTERDAY then And why did we work for 2 years And listen to his press conference and the way he talks about it ? at what stage did it become shit ?? Oh yeh - when I started putting our side with our limited powers ( read the previous post where I detail how I wasn't in control of this and how I bailed responding )
Pretty obvious it don't stack up
I am here and am happy to speak about matters relating to the album that illustrate my objective ( to put our side and to show the extent of love , creativity and thought that went into it ) but I'm not interested in filling out the nerdish fanboy detail that doesn't relate to this . Hope you understand that
Peace to all ( free tofu / LSD and anti vacc information sheets too ) Ah shit. My username username is working against me! Maybe I'll go back to LSD JESUS. Yeahhh... I reckon he'll like that. So, * ahem * let me rephrase my question: "Gaz, from your mind bending perspective could you illustrate how your extent of love, creativity and thought propagated your brain, channelled through the ether, rode astral plane and TELL ME THE GODDAMN TRACKLIST YOU DIRTY HIPPY!!" Peace & love, LSD JESUS Going out on a limb here, but given for a few years now Gaz has said Noel stole their track list, I'm going to hazard a guess it was along the lines of: 1. "Everybody's on the Run" 2. "Dream On" 3. "If I Had a Gun..." 4. "The Death of You and Me" 5. "(I Wanna Live in a Dream in My) Record Machine" 6. "AKA... What a Life!" 7. "Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks" 8. "AKA... Broken Arrow" 9. "(Stranded On) The Wrong Beach" 10. "Stop the Clocks" ;-P
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 15, 2017 11:20:46 GMT -5
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Feb 15, 2017 11:23:18 GMT -5
Ah shit. My username username is working against me! Maybe I'll go back to LSD JESUS. Yeahhh... I reckon he'll like that. So, * ahem * let me rephrase my question: "Gaz, from your mind bending perspective could you illustrate how your extent of love, creativity and thought propagated your brain, channelled through the ether, rode astral plane and TELL ME THE GODDAMN TRACKLIST YOU DIRTY HIPPY!!" Peace & love, LSD JESUS Going out on a limb here, but given for a few years now Gaz has said Noel stole their track list, I'm going to hazard a guess it was along the lines of: 1. "Everybody's on the Run" 2. "Dream On" 3. "If I Had a Gun..." 4. "The Death of You and Me" 5. "(I Wanna Live in a Dream in My) Record Machine" 6. "AKA... What a Life!" 7. "Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks" 8. "AKA... Broken Arrow" 9. "(Stranded On) The Wrong Beach" 10. "Stop the Clocks" ;-P Patronise my ass mossy - You condescending motherflipper!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 15, 2017 11:34:18 GMT -5
AA album >>> Definitely Maybe
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Post by mossy on Feb 15, 2017 11:36:03 GMT -5
Going out on a limb here, but given for a few years now Gaz has said Noel stole their track list, I'm going to hazard a guess it was along the lines of: 1. "Everybody's on the Run" 2. "Dream On" 3. "If I Had a Gun..." 4. "The Death of You and Me" 5. "(I Wanna Live in a Dream in My) Record Machine" 6. "AKA... What a Life!" 7. "Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks" 8. "AKA... Broken Arrow" 9. "(Stranded On) The Wrong Beach" 10. "Stop the Clocks" ;-P Patronise my ass mossy - You condescending motherflipper! What the flip are you looking at? Think this is funny? You think this is some kind of motherflipping joke? Motherflippers think everything is a motherflipping joke. Let me tell you, the jokey ain't no jokey sucker!
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Post by mossy on Feb 15, 2017 12:00:08 GMT -5
More:
"Because great albums have an artistic process and we were well underway to achieving that but it depended on one thing - COLLABORATION AND COMMUNICATION . That was our only mistake ( the assumption that that would happen !)
The inspiration you feel I feel everytime I watch ' classic albums - how they were made ' the hurdles and decisions that had to be made to achieve it . I was braced for it all to get there - totally dedicated to overcoming everything !
In my humble opinion ( and I said this openly at the time ) Noel's first solo album was always gonna sell a million ( no matter what it was !) it just depended whether it became a classic album that sells and sells and has tv programmes made about it in the future cos it truly celebrates making a bold statement and achieving it or just strums along with easy option . He has had his success but in my humble opinion that album is of no interest playing the long ball game . I'm not saying we would have achieved a classic album but you know I was committed to giving it my all to TRY . I will always be sad and have huge regrets I couldn't inspire him to fully commit and I would love to have a totally frank and open discussion about why / what happened rather than invite juvenile spats which sells magazines and advertising space but doesn't create classic albums . This and this alone has been my passion and my objective . Anyone thinking anything other is deluded ."
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Post by mossy on Feb 15, 2017 12:02:42 GMT -5
"Thanks Simon Norfolk and everyone else who have the brain cells to keep with the detail You actually now officially know more about the complexities of this album than Noel Ironic isn't it?"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 12:30:25 GMT -5
I dont forget that radio thing he did before the acoustic show in december 2015 when the radio host asked Noel if he wanted to thank the session musicians and he turned around and made some comment like "well no cause they are getting paid for it" or something along those lines, just such passing disrespect, no need for it.
Id of told him to fuck off on air, let ofcom deal with that. For a guy who came from a unprivileged background he sure does talk down to people, well done you made a success of yourself, doesnt mean you have to become one of the "beautiful people"
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Post by mossy on Feb 15, 2017 12:35:02 GMT -5
I dont forget that radio thing he did before the acoustic show in december 2015 when the radio host asked Noel if he wanted to thank the session musicians and he turned around and made some comment like "well no cause they are getting paid for it" or something along those lines, just such passing disrespect, no need for it. Id of told him to fuck off on air, let ofcom deal with that. For a guy who came from a unprivileged background he sure does talk down to people, well done you made a success of yourself, doesnt mean you have to become one of the "beautiful people" The bit in the HFB making of documentary where he says to the choir "You did a great job" in a funny voice is really cringe too!
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Post by morning_rain on Feb 15, 2017 12:40:06 GMT -5
Great to hear Gaz's side of the story (which I truly believe ) even if his messages are a little too twisted for my poor english!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 12:42:49 GMT -5
I dont forget that radio thing he did before the acoustic show in december 2015 when the radio host asked Noel if he wanted to thank the session musicians and he turned around and made some comment like "well no cause they are getting paid for it" or something along those lines, just such passing disrespect, no need for it. Id of told him to fuck off on air, let ofcom deal with that. For a guy who came from a unprivileged background he sure does talk down to people, well done you made a success of yourself, doesnt mean you have to become one of the "beautiful people" The bit in the HFB making of documentary where he says to the choir "You did a great job" in a funny voice is really cringe too! he sees it as their job so why should he thank them? total ass tbh, literally takes nothing just to say "oh yea, top guys" someone said to me once that the people who come into money who are the nasty bastards, the people who are born into a privileged family with a lot of money are usually ok because they dont see money as important, Ive met a few people that are lords of this and that, lovely people, its the wankers who win the lottery etc that suddenly start treating people like shit, Noel went from nothing to everything in about 2 years. I remember meeting lee evans, great guy, really thankful for simply going to see his show and said if it wasnt for the fans and the people who helped him he wouldnt of got anywhere, literally the opposite to Noel who sees his success as "well I didnt ask for a record contract so fuck off" he must have enough money to wipe his ass on yet he still worries and does everything dictated on price.
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Post by glider on Feb 15, 2017 12:45:41 GMT -5
TL;DR: Noel and Liam are pretentious douchbags.
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Post by matt on Feb 15, 2017 12:50:14 GMT -5
Noel sounds like a right insecure short arsed c*nt.
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Post by andymorris on Feb 15, 2017 12:57:29 GMT -5
Gaz is bastard#1 then haha i bet he's hiding some of Noel's sessions in the recordings that will only be heard if you eat tofu while playing the record backward at 27.5 rpm. Because 33 is too mainstream. ^February 2016Damn, Gaz did a proper read through as well hahaha NEVER trust anyone who eats Tofu. NEVER TBH, on the matter, if Noel stole stuff, SUE. If not, shut up.
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Post by andymorris on Feb 15, 2017 12:59:04 GMT -5
TL;DR: Noel and Liam are pretentious douchbags. I think they are protective of their fame, more like. I believe when you're that famous, you can't really trust anyone. Noel praised a lot of musicians he worked with, so something must have happened between that Gaz dude and Noel.
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Post by andymorris on Feb 15, 2017 13:02:28 GMT -5
someone said to me once that the people who come into money who are the nasty bastards, the people who are born into a privileged family with a lot of money are usually ok because they dont see money as important, Ive met a few people that are lords of this and that, lovely people, its the wankers who win the lottery etc that suddenly start treating people like shit, Noel went from nothing to everything in about 2 years. Dude no, just no. I know "privileged family" people that are complete twats. There is everything in every class within every society. Is Kim Kardashian nice? Is trump nice ? Fuck no.
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