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Post by defmaybe00 on May 10, 2015 5:15:22 GMT -5
Noel Diva Gallagher...this might be the best one
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Post by mossy on May 10, 2015 5:38:33 GMT -5
Noel Diva Gallagher...this might be the best one "You've left the rind on this bacon sandwich! I specifically asked for the rinds to be cut off! How the hell am I supposed to make music under these conditions! Get the hell out of this studio, I never want to see your fooking face again!!" ...the real reason the AA album got cancelled.
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 10, 2015 5:39:30 GMT -5
Now,Noel might be a c unt,but you say he's a diva,he stole your tracks,he wasn't honest with you and just thinks about the money and then in another post you say you'd be alright working with him again whenever he wants,SERIOUSLY?
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Post by mossy on May 10, 2015 5:44:41 GMT -5
I want this album now more than ever. I love weird things. Even if we get the album I'll still be pining for the outtakes: *Three* "great" versions of IIHAG!
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 10, 2015 6:00:59 GMT -5
Now,Noel might be a c unt,but you say he's a diva,he stole your tracks,he wasn't honest with you and just thinks about the money and then in another post you say you'd be alright working with him again whenever he wants,SERIOUSLY? I find that a bit weird too. Wonder if it's the same the other way around now this all happened.
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Post by rob80 on May 10, 2015 6:40:23 GMT -5
I have to say that by and large I have felt the AA to be the more reliable of the two parties in recounting the events surrounding this album given Noel's history in this department (real people etc.). However, the bit I don't understand is the new information that the High Flying Birds album had the same track list as the AA album when: - We know from an engineer working on these sessions that they included Ballad of the Mighty I (this I think is where we first heard this song title a couple of years ago).
- The AA forced Noel to write/co-wrote The Right Stuff and The Mexican for the album.
- On one of the other Facebook quotes Gaz claimed that What A Life was a remix done after the event, not an original recording and NOT selected by them for the AA album?
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 10, 2015 7:05:53 GMT -5
I have to say that by and large I have felt the AA to be the more reliable of the two parties in recounting the events surrounding this album given Noel's history in this department (real people etc.). However, the bit I don't understand is the new information that the High Flying Birds album had the same track list as the AA album when: - We know from an engineer working on these sessions that they included Ballad of the Mighty I (this I think is where we first heard this song title a couple of years ago).
- The AA forced Noel to write/co-wrote The Right Stuff and The Mexican for the album.
- On one of the other Facebook quotes Gaz claimed that What A Life was a remix done after the event, not an original recording and NOT selected by them for the AA album?
I'm trying to recall the 2-3 tunes Noel said were going to be on both HFB and the AA project. I believe it was Shoot A Hole, Death of You and Me and Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks. Plus Freaky Teeth, The Mexican, The Right Stuff and Ballad of The Mighty I. Who really knows what else was planned. I know Noel did have them start messing around with songs like EOTR but who knows if that song was torn apart like Shoot A Hole. I can certainly see that being plausible even if highly unlikely.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 10, 2015 7:11:26 GMT -5
I'm now trying to imagine what their version of EOTR would sound like.
Everybody's on the run on the run uuuuhhhh on the run the run the run ooooeeeehhhhh the run everybody's on the run the run the run the run the run the run yeah uuughhh *distorted flute solo* on the run on the run on the run on the run on the run uhh uhh run on the run *monks singing Gregorian verses* on the run on the run
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 10, 2015 7:15:32 GMT -5
I'm now trying to imagine what their version of EOTR would sound like. Everybody's on the run on the run uuuuhhhh on the run the run the run ooooeeeehhhhh the run everybody's on the run the run the run the run the run the run yeah uuughhh *distorted flute solo* on the run on the run on the run on the run on the run uhh uhh run on the run *monks singing Gregorian verses* on the run on the run Oh come ooooooooon
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Post by mossy on May 10, 2015 7:37:26 GMT -5
I'm now trying to imagine what their version of EOTR would sound like. Everybody's on the run on the run uuuuhhhh on the run the run the run ooooeeeehhhhh the run everybody's on the run the run the run the run the run the run yeah uuughhh *distorted flute solo* on the run on the run on the run on the run on the run uhh uhh run on the run *monks singing Gregorian verses* on the run on the run This is unfair I think. Gaz has said several times he was meeting Noel in the middle and kept conventional song structures but just tried to add more colour to them. He only created the more unconventional SAHITS late in the process as a result of Noel's "Pink Floyd" comment to the press. For some reason, the most unconventional song is the one Noel decided to release. Gaz has said he thinks Noel did this deliberately to get "psychedelic credibility" when in fact it is not truly representative of the album as a whole.
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Post by andymorris on May 10, 2015 7:41:47 GMT -5
Finally take the tracks we wrote and claim them as your own on the next album.... its a somewhat different approach to my own but common in many old school divas & stars ( according to my management who have handled many )" WTF : if he stole songs, sue you dumb bastard. If that's arrangements only then it's producing credits and he got them... Then he's a dumber than dumb bastard.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 10, 2015 7:45:33 GMT -5
Well I guess we can't really say anything about it, as we haven't heard it. I'm not sure who to believe, but I don't really care either. Just release the thing, sue Noel or shut the fuck up about it. That EOTR thing was a joke btw.
Also, Dark Side Of The Moon is not the best example of an album that's "out there". It's not even the best example of an album by Pink Floyd that's "out there".
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 10, 2015 7:46:20 GMT -5
Finally take the tracks we wrote and claim them as your own on the next album.... its a somewhat different approach to my own but common in many old school divas & stars ( according to my management who have handled many )" WTF : if he stole songs, sue you dumb bastard. If that's arrangements only then it's producing credits and he got them... Then he's a dumber than dumb bastard. What? Are you trying to say writing one fucking hundred posts on Facebook and wanting to work with him again is not the thing to do when somebody steals your songs?
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Post by andymorris on May 10, 2015 7:48:15 GMT -5
That EOTR thing was a joke btw. Well it made me laugh
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Post by mossy on May 10, 2015 7:48:36 GMT -5
Finally take the tracks we wrote and claim them as your own on the next album.... its a somewhat different approach to my own but common in many old school divas & stars ( according to my management who have handled many )" WTF : if he stole songs, sue you dumb bastard. If that's arrangements only then it's producing credits and he got them... Then he's a dumber than dumb bastard. I think when you jam and write songs in the studio it's pretty difficult to prove who wrote what in a court. If it is true that Noel stole their work (and I'm not saying it is!) they probably can't be bothered to go through legal proceedings when they're not particularly money-focussed people and Noel will have a far far better legal team!
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Post by mossy on May 10, 2015 7:50:04 GMT -5
Well I guess we can't really say anything about it, as we haven't heard it. I'm not sure who to believe, but I don't really care either. Just release the thing, sue Noel or shut the fuck up about it. That EOTR thing was a joke btw. Also, Dark Side Of The Moon is not the best example of an album that's "out there". It's not even the best example of an album by Pink Floyd that's "out there". Dark Side Of The Moon does have On The Run and Great Gig In The Sky though - not conventional songs and probably Gaz's reference point here. My bacon comment was deadly serious btw. A close source has told me that's the real reason for the album not being released. It was a sausage baguette that caused the Death In Vegas sessions to end in chaos.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 10, 2015 7:52:27 GMT -5
I can imagine them being pissed if Noel really "stole their material", which is a pretty bold statement to make btw, but why would you want to work with someone who did that and who was just "disappointing" and "being a diva" again?
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 10, 2015 7:52:39 GMT -5
Well I guess we can't really say anything about it, as we haven't heard it. I'm not sure who to believe, but I don't really care either. Just release the thing, sue Noel or shut the fuck up about it. That EOTR thing was a joke btw. Also, Dark Side Of The Moon is not the best example of an album that's "out there". It's not even the best example of an album by Pink Floyd that's "out there". Dark Side Of The Moon does have On The Run and Great Gig In The Sky though - not conventional songs and probably Gaz's reference point here. My bacon comment was deadly serious btw. A close source has told me that's the real reason for the album not being released. It was a sausage baguette that caused the Dearh In Vegas sessions to end in chaos. We all know divas like to bitch about food
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 10, 2015 7:54:44 GMT -5
Maybe it's me being a bit too cynical, but what I get from all this is that they were disappointed with the co-producing credits and wanted more and that's it
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 10, 2015 7:54:47 GMT -5
Well I guess we can't really say anything about it, as we haven't heard it. I'm not sure who to believe, but I don't really care either. Just release the thing, sue Noel or shut the fuck up about it. That EOTR thing was a joke btw. Also, Dark Side Of The Moon is not the best example of an album that's "out there". It's not even the best example of an album by Pink Floyd that's "out there". Dark Side Of The Moon does have On The Run and Great Gig In The Sky though - not conventional songs and probably Gaz's reference point here. My bacon comment was deadly serious btw. A close source has told me that's the real reason for the album not being released. It was a sausage baguette that caused the Death In Vegas sessions to end in chaos. It sounds like Great Gig In The Sky is Gaz's reference point for a lot of their work Tell me more about that source. Is it someone you wake up with every day? JK.
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Post by andymorris on May 10, 2015 8:00:01 GMT -5
WTF : if he stole songs, sue you dumb bastard. If that's arrangements only then it's producing credits and he got them... Then he's a dumber than dumb bastard. I think when you jam and write songs in the studio it's pretty difficult to prove who wrote what in a court. If it is true that Noel stole their work (and I'm not saying it is!) they probably can't be bothered to go through legal proceedings when they're not particularly money-focussed people and Noel will have a far far better legal team! yeah, but then again Oasis changed their songs a lot in the studio, especially in the later days (think Rapture as example) and producers never asked for co-writing credits. It's called producing, and they get paid a damn lot for that. Why ask for songwriting credits ? Steve Albini, for instance, has a good view on it i thought. "Royalties are a means to pay producers in the future -- and in perpetuity -- based on record sales. If a band does a show, blows a whole bunch of minds and a bunch of people become fans and go out and buy millions of records, the producer gets paid. I think that's ethically unsustainable. "I don't think you should pay a doctor extra because a patient doesn't die. I think the doctor should be busting his ass for every patient. I don't think I should get paid for someone else's success."www.techdirt.com/articles/20100315/0323318563.shtmlThe guy only ever ask for money based on studio time... That's it, though he's got a lot of input in the bands' sound. Classy guy. Maybe they've had a bit more input than a regular producer, but still, it's noel's song... well, apparently.To me they are just trying too hard to be the "amazing producers" that turned dad rock Noel to psychedelic and saved his career. Too bad, he did it on his own.
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 10, 2015 8:03:18 GMT -5
No they're actually saying they tried to save it but he didn't want to so he's still dad rock Noel
Love songs with no depth
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Post by andymorris on May 10, 2015 8:53:15 GMT -5
They probably have sex with their DAT tapes, i mean, they are so sexy and deep.
vaginas.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 9:09:51 GMT -5
And that phone interview as well, the guys thinks he's George Martin or what ? He just sounds like an ass stuck in his own ass tbh. I'm guessing that the Amorphous Androgynous probably aren't your favourite band in the world...
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Post by mossy on May 10, 2015 9:22:52 GMT -5
I think when you jam and write songs in the studio it's pretty difficult to prove who wrote what in a court. If it is true that Noel stole their work (and I'm not saying it is!) they probably can't be bothered to go through legal proceedings when they're not particularly money-focussed people and Noel will have a far far better legal team! Maybe they've had a bit more input than a regular producer, but still, it's noel's song... I think Gaz's point is that on one or two songs, such as The Right Stuff, it wasn't *just* Noel's song. I can imagine hearing TRS on any AA album. It sure doesn't sound like anything off DM, MG, BHN, HC etc. I'm not saying it's definitely the case, but I'd sure believe that the AA had a significant part to play in writing the music to that tune.
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