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Post by joladella on Jan 15, 2015 12:38:40 GMT -5
He isn't ready to put out a record yet i don't think. he needs to ditch that hag of a girlfriend he has and kick her to the curb before she gets pregnant, buck up, and focus on his one great gift - his vocal chords. So you know her personally? That's cool! Tell us then, what kind of person is she and what has she done to poor little Liam? |
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Post by ariananana on Jan 15, 2015 12:45:08 GMT -5
He isn't ready to put out a record yet i don't think. he needs to ditch that hag of a girlfriend he has and kick her to the curb before she gets pregnant, buck up, and focus on his one great gift - his vocal chords. So you know her personally? That's cool! Tell us then, what kind of person is she and what has she done to poor little Liam? ooooooh feisty now aren't we!? |
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Post by joladella on Jan 15, 2015 12:48:55 GMT -5
So you know her personally? That's cool! Tell us then, what kind of person is she and what has she done to poor little Liam? ooooooh feisty now aren't we!? Nope. Just pointing out how unfair and ridiculous it is to say something like that about someone you obviously do not know after all. I bet you would not have if she was deemed "cute". For the record, I don't give a frak who that man is living with as it is not my business. Or yours. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 15, 2015 12:52:00 GMT -5
Which songs are you referring to? The most obvious demonstration is Columbia vs Flick of the Finger. Both have just three chords, simple lyrics and melodies and repetitive drum loops yet one towers above the other. FOTF is like the first verse of Columbia repeated over and over. It's good, but it doesn't really develop into a great song. Noel's genius is adding the "I can't tell you..." falsetto part, immediately proceeded by a simple but now iconic guitar riff, which you can immediately identify as Columbia. I would also put Lyla in this category. Honestly, it isn't a really interesting song in terms of the melody, guitar chords, lyrics etc, but the outcome is great. The idea of FOTF was brilliant the outcome was good, but it's not a well crafted song. Owen Morris would probably disagree with judging from his comments about it. That's not to say it isn't great, it is. But I would say 'crafted' is the wrong word. I would make an educated guess that more care and attention went into FOTF. To me its really Liam that really brings those two songs to life, particularly Lyla as Noel's demo showed. |
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Post by ariananana on Jan 15, 2015 12:53:36 GMT -5
ooooooh feisty now aren't we!? Nope. Just pointing out how unfair and ridiculous it is to say something like that about someone you obviously do not know after all. I bet you would not have if she was deemed "cute". For the record, I don't give a frak who that man is living with as it is not my business. Or yours. She could be the hottest chick in the world...guess what, she was sleeping with a married fucking man - and that right there is not ok in my book. close your legs until the divorce started. Takes two to tango. Liam may have for it....but she definitely didn't say no. that's my problem with her. amongst other things. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 15, 2015 12:58:28 GMT -5
Flick of The Finger would be ruined by chorus. This overall thinking here that every fucking single written song needs a chorus is a mystery to me. Tomorrow never knows didn't have a chorus either. I took this one AS a comparison cause both Werk with repetive drums one melody few\one chord.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 15, 2015 13:02:33 GMT -5
I dont want something like "With a fliiiiiiiick of the finger you'll be by my side", cause I personally find myself bored Wirth some choruses, espescially whwn you feel they Were written for people To shout along With. You d not need Tod please every casual listen er, who wants The same structute every day. It is Boring To eat The same shit every day too, even though The meal may be a Highlight of your day.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Jan 15, 2015 13:03:37 GMT -5
"If you're good - you're good, if you're shit - you're shit" - Liam Gallagher
I'd actually agree with Noel here. I think Beady Eye were a good band, they really made no mistake musically, they had a lot of great tunes on those 2 albums, i've seen them live and that was an experience too i've gotta say. But they didn't have that break out song, they just didn't. Because, you see, it's not that easy to have one, that's what this game is all about, it's not that easy..
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Post by joladella on Jan 15, 2015 13:06:52 GMT -5
Nope. Just pointing out how unfair and ridiculous it is to say something like that about someone you obviously do not know after all. I bet you would not have if she was deemed "cute". For the record, I don't give a frak who that man is living with as it is not my business. Or yours. She could be the hottest chick in the world...guess what, she was sleeping with a married fucking man - and that right there is not ok in my book. close your legs until the divorce started. Takes two to tango. Liam may have for it....but she definitely didn't say no. that's my problem with her. amongst other things. That's the last thing I am gonna say about this. Just think about the logic how that makes her someone you can call names and want him to get rid of, when they were both at fault. If she is an insult to your morals, he has to be even more, so one assumes they deserve each other? |
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 15, 2015 13:19:28 GMT -5
I think he quit again for like the 8th time in 3 days. He's been starting fights with everyone lately. No idea what's going on with him. This might sound silly but... are we sure he is actually kalas? Maybe webmaster could tell us if he's been hacked or something. Yes, we can confirm that it is kalas who deleted his account by himself again and again and comes back again and again. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 15, 2015 13:24:07 GMT -5
Too Bad Liam wanted that big thing again. Bead eye were cool because they Were a gang again. Just a bunch of friends making music. I would have loved too See them especially with BE.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jan 15, 2015 14:05:54 GMT -5
I dont want something like "With a fliiiiiiiick of the finger you'll be by my side", cause I personally find myself bored Wirth some choruses, espescially whwn you feel they Were written for people To shout along With. You d not need Tod please every casual listen er, who wants The same structute every day. It is Boring To eat The same shit every day too, even though The meal may be a Highlight of your day. What Flick of the Finger is missing is not a chorus but another musical idea. I've always thought that a song can never be complete unless it has two identifiable ideas, two elements or 'hooks' to sustain it. Then it can be completed by linking the two ideas in some way. Flick of the Finger has a very good hook, but it feels incomplete without another musical element. It never fulfills its promise. That's very often the problem with Liam's songwriting: he will come up with a good melody, then he will get impatient and repeat the same thing over and over again. Of the three songwriters in Beady Eye, Liam had the best ideas, but his songs feel in general underdeveloped . |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 15, 2015 14:27:09 GMT -5
I dont want something like "With a fliiiiiiiick of the finger you'll be by my side", cause I personally find myself bored Wirth some choruses, espescially whwn you feel they Were written for people To shout along With. You d not need Tod please every casual listen er, who wants The same structute every day. It is Boring To eat The same shit every day too, even though The meal may be a Highlight of your day. Were we supposed to read that on the melody of In The Heat Of The Moment? Because I did! |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 15, 2015 16:05:46 GMT -5
Nope. Just pointing out how unfair and ridiculous it is to say something like that about someone you obviously do not know after all. I bet you would not have if she was deemed "cute". For the record, I don't give a frak who that man is living with as it is not my business. Or yours. She could be the hottest chick in the world...guess what, she was sleeping with a married fucking man - and that right there is not ok in my book. close your legs until the divorce started. Takes two to tango. Liam may have for it....but she definitely didn't say no. that's my problem with her. amongst other things. As Devils advocate...didn't we only first hear about this relationship around the time that the baby scandal broke? In which case it's possible that Liam and her didn't stert sleeping together until after Nicole asked Liam for a divorce. In which case...it's more rebound than it is cheating, isn't it? |
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Post by jaq515 on Jan 15, 2015 16:13:10 GMT -5
She could be the hottest chick in the world...guess what, she was sleeping with a married fucking man - and that right there is not ok in my book. close your legs until the divorce started. Takes two to tango. Liam may have for it....but she definitely didn't say no. that's my problem with her. amongst other things. As Devils advocate...didn't we only first hear about this relationship around the time that the baby scandal broke? In which case it's possible that Liam and her didn't stert sleeping together until after Nicole asked Liam for a divorce. In which case...it's more rebound than it is cheating, isn't it? Pictures of liam and her first circulated when BDI played Ibiza rocks which was literally the exact time the story broke. (like the press was justifiled to tell story as an even bigger story / worse story broke about him) You choose to believe this or not but certain people knew about her and liam at the start of the BE touring cycle |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 15, 2015 16:18:13 GMT -5
As Devils advocate...didn't we only first hear about this relationship around the time that the baby scandal broke? In which case it's possible that Liam and her didn't stert sleeping together until after Nicole asked Liam for a divorce. In which case...it's more rebound than it is cheating, isn't it? Pictures of liam and her first circulated when BDI played Ibiza rocks which was literally the exact time the story broke. (like the press was justifiled to tell story as an even bigger story / worse story broke about him) You choose to believe this or not but certain people knew about her and liam at the start of the BE touring cycle From what I understand Liam told Nicole ahead of the story breaking. So them getting together right as the story broke in the press could still have been after Nicole decided to kick him out. I'd not heard anyone say that he and Debbie had been sleeping together all tour until you just did. So for now I chose not to believe that. I don't think even the Sun claimed that from a "source close to Liam." |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 15, 2015 16:22:56 GMT -5
I dont want something like "With a fliiiiiiiick of the finger you'll be by my side", cause I personally find myself bored Wirth some choruses, espescially whwn you feel they Were written for people To shout along With. You d not need Tod please every casual listen er, who wants The same structute every day. It is Boring To eat The same shit every day too, even though The meal may be a Highlight of your day. What Flick of the Finger is missing is not a chorus but another musical idea. I've always thought that a song can never be complete unless it has two identifiable ideas, two elements or 'hooks' to sustain it. Then it can be completed by linking the two ideas in some way. Flick of the Finger has a very good hook, but it feels incomplete without another musical element. It never fulfills its promise. That's very often the problem with Liam's songwriting: he will come up with a good melody, then he will get impatient and repeat the same thing over and over again. Of the three songwriters in Beady Eye, Liam had the best ideas, but his songs feel in general underdeveloped . It works differently with everyone I suppose. I personally would never be thinking after listening to a song whether it had 'two identifiable ideas'. It doesn't matter to me if it has one or a hundred. |
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Post by jaq515 on Jan 15, 2015 16:26:53 GMT -5
Pictures of liam and her first circulated when BDI played Ibiza rocks which was literally the exact time the story broke. (like the press was justifiled to tell story as an even bigger story / worse story broke about him) You choose to believe this or not but certain people knew about her and liam at the start of the BE touring cycle From what I understand Liam told Nicole ahead of the story breaking. So them getting together right as the story broke in the press could still have been after Nicole decided to kick him out. I'd not heard anyone say that he and Debbie had been sleeping together all tour until you just did. So for now I chose not to believe that. I don't think even the Sun claimed that from a "source close to Liam." nicole's mum was interviewed and said nicole didn't know anything at all about it, she even said the day before when the sun said this rock star has love child blah blah that nicole said i wonder who that is etc. Then obv when saw day after fell to her knees crying etc when story broke. They even printed a front page about 6 weeks later saying first time they'd seen each other since news happened. long story short she didnt know before hand (and other people did unfortunately whether you believe it cos wasn't in the sun haha is fine) |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 15, 2015 16:35:38 GMT -5
From what I understand Liam told Nicole ahead of the story breaking. So them getting together right as the story broke in the press could still have been after Nicole decided to kick him out. I'd not heard anyone say that he and Debbie had been sleeping together all tour until you just did. So for now I chose not to believe that. I don't think even the Sun claimed that from a "source close to Liam." nicole's mum was interviewed and said nicole didn't know anything at all about it, she even said the day before when the sun said this rock star has love child blah blah that nicole said i wonder who that is etc. Then obv when saw day after fell to her knees crying etc when story broke. They even printed a front page about 6 weeks later saying first time they'd seen each other since news happened. long story short she didnt know before hand (and other people did unfortunately whether you believe it cos wasn't in the sun haha is fine) I don't know how you know...are you personally acquainted with Liam and Nicole. Why on earth would I believe your vague "people" knew...without any information about what people and how you know they knew? You are just some guy on the Internet. I could say that several people know that Elvis works in my local supermarket. And from what I remember the gap between the "an unknown rockstar" and it being revealed that it was Liam was at least several days. There was a story from Nicole's sister about them being out together and had actually been talking and joking about that story together and Nicole getting a call from Liam then breaking down crying that the "unknown rockstar" was Liam. So yes...she was told by Liam prior to the story breaking in the press. |
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Post by jaq515 on Jan 15, 2015 16:51:12 GMT -5
nicole's mum was interviewed and said nicole didn't know anything at all about it, she even said the day before when the sun said this rock star has love child blah blah that nicole said i wonder who that is etc. Then obv when saw day after fell to her knees crying etc when story broke. They even printed a front page about 6 weeks later saying first time they'd seen each other since news happened. long story short she didnt know before hand (and other people did unfortunately whether you believe it cos wasn't in the sun haha is fine) I don't know how you know...are you personally acquainted with Liam and Nicole. Why on earth would I believe your vague "people" knew...without any information about what people and how you know they knew? You are just some guy on the Internet. I could say that several people know that Elvis works in my local supermarket. And from what I remember the gap between the "an unknown rockstar" and it being revealed that it was Liam was at least several days. There was a story from Nicole's sister about them being out together and had actually been talking and joking about that story together and Nicole getting a call from Liam then breaking down crying that the "unknown rockstar" was Liam. So yes...she was told by Liam prior to the story breaking in the press. You can think whatever you want thats your opinion. so yeah she did know by 1 or 2 days before it was printed but liam was already pictured with debbie by then. Like i say you can say michael buble works at you're local supermarket. It wasn't a rebound thing.. you think it is so thats cool for you  |
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Post by Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh on Jan 15, 2015 17:01:05 GMT -5
nicole's mum was interviewed and said nicole didn't know anything at all about it, she even said the day before when the sun said this rock star has love child blah blah that nicole said i wonder who that is etc. Then obv when saw day after fell to her knees crying etc when story broke. They even printed a front page about 6 weeks later saying first time they'd seen each other since news happened. long story short she didnt know before hand (and other people did unfortunately whether you believe it cos wasn't in the sun haha is fine) I don't know how you know...are you personally acquainted with Liam and Nicole. Why on earth would I believe your vague "people" knew...without any information about what people and how you know they knew? You are just some guy on the Internet. I could say that several people know that Elvis works in my local supermarket.And from what I remember the gap between the "an unknown rockstar" and it being revealed that it was Liam was at least several days. There was a story from Nicole's sister about them being out together and had actually been talking and joking about that story together and Nicole getting a call from Liam then breaking down crying that the "unknown rockstar" was Liam. So yes...she was told by Liam prior to the story breaking in the press. Elvis is my homeboy...  God bless. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 15, 2015 17:08:33 GMT -5
I dont want something like "With a fliiiiiiiick of the finger you'll be by my side", cause I personally find myself bored Wirth some choruses, espescially whwn you feel they Were written for people To shout along With. You d not need Tod please every casual listen er, who wants The same structute every day. It is Boring To eat The same shit every day too, even though The meal may be a Highlight of your day. What Flick of the Finger is missing is not a chorus but another musical idea. I've always thought that a song can never be complete unless it has two identifiable ideas, two elements or 'hooks' to sustain it. Then it can be completed by linking the two ideas in some way. Flick of the Finger has a very good hook, but it feels incomplete without another musical element. It never fulfills its promise. That's very often the problem with Liam's songwriting: he will come up with a good melody, then he will get impatient and repeat the same thing over and over again. Of the three songwriters in Beady Eye, Liam had the best ideas, but his songs feel in general underdeveloped . For me the song is great the way it is. It is Kind of repetiv but Kind oft medidativ/drone style |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jan 15, 2015 17:10:51 GMT -5
Flick of The Finger would be ruined by chorus. This overall thinking here that every fucking single written song needs a chorus is a mystery to me. Tomorrow never knows didn't have a chorus either. I took this one AS a comparison cause both Werk with repetive drums one melody few\one chord. I agree in general and I love FOTF as it is, but I'm willing to bet that the song would have been much more successfull commercially with a proper chorus. And that's what Beady Eye needed, what Noel said here, a song that made it big. I mean, the Beatles could put Tomorrow Never Knows on Revolver because there are at least 4 or 5 perfect hit singles on it, and because they were already huge. FOTF is the best song on BE and still not a good single which is a shame. |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 15, 2015 17:22:00 GMT -5
I don't know how you know...are you personally acquainted with Liam and Nicole. Why on earth would I believe your vague "people" knew...without any information about what people and how you know they knew? You are just some guy on the Internet. I could say that several people know that Elvis works in my local supermarket. And from what I remember the gap between the "an unknown rockstar" and it being revealed that it was Liam was at least several days. There was a story from Nicole's sister about them being out together and had actually been talking and joking about that story together and Nicole getting a call from Liam then breaking down crying that the "unknown rockstar" was Liam. So yes...she was told by Liam prior to the story breaking in the press. You can think whatever you want thats your opinion. so yeah she did know by 1 or 2 days before it was printed but liam was already pictured with debbie by then. Like i say you can say michael buble works at you're local supermarket. It wasn't a rebound thing.. you think it is so thats cool for you I don't know the full truth. And neither do you. You specifically said that you thought she found out when the story about Liam ran in the papers. And THAT doesn't seem to have been true so...you'll forgive me for not trust you as gospel on the whole affair. As I said. I'm playing devils advocate. It's not like I'm doubting that Liam would cheat on his wife. I wouldn't have been surprised if it happened either way honestly. It could very well have been than Debbie and Liam had been together for a year already by the time the first photo ran. But there is no proof that is true. By the time the first photos of them leaked Nicole had known for several days and had presumably asked for Liam to move out. |
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Post by jaq515 on Jan 15, 2015 17:45:18 GMT -5
You can think whatever you want thats your opinion. so yeah she did know by 1 or 2 days before it was printed but liam was already pictured with debbie by then. Like i say you can say michael buble works at you're local supermarket. It wasn't a rebound thing.. you think it is so thats cool for you I don't know the full truth. And neither do you. You specifically said that you thought she found out when the story about Liam ran in the papers. And THAT doesn't seem to have been true so...you'll forgive me for not trust you as gospel on the whole affair. As I said. I'm playing devils advocate. It's not like I'm doubting that Liam would cheat on his wife. I wouldn't have been surprised if it happened either way honestly. It could very well have been than Debbie and Liam had been together for a year already by the time the first photo ran. But there is no proof that is true. By the time the first photos of them leaked Nicole had known for several days and had presumably asked for Liam to move out. id never expect you to believe anything so no need to apologise don't worry.. just as your presumptions are wrong in my view /i know they are wrong.. but you know I'm wrong in your view .. so thats that nothing else to say is there |
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