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Post by lamboasis on Jan 18, 2015 15:50:04 GMT -5
It's nice that you guys are discussing this, however... Does it really matter? I doubt Noel cares as much as some of you guys - haha. If I hadn't of read the thread title I wouldn't have even considered the matter. The charts nowadays seem to be so full of rubbish that I couldn't care less what how much of the general public listens to Noel's songs. Frankly the 'general publics' taste in 'good' music is so shocking that I'm not at all surprised to see it's all manufactured. Everyone knows what they like... so if people like Noel wanted chart success he'd deliberately write for it (like 90% of pop artist writers do)... and it'd be shit. However I bet it'd do twice as well as anything he's going to release. Noel pretty much summed it up with: "If you're Number One in the charts now, it automatically means you must be shit. Bands now go cap-in-hand to the industry and the industry has already decided what it wants for the fucking chart stars. But the charts are all the fucking same. Every single song in the Top 10 is the same shit with a different voice."Of course, this isn't the case with every single song, but a painfully high percentage. Chart success is pretty much meaningless to any respectable band/duo or individual loosely fitting the 'rock' genre. It's all about the critical acclaim, baby "A #1 worldwide hit or Manchester City Winning the Champions League?" Noel: "#1 worldwide hit" Anyway, if you are not into charts it's pretty simple, actually: don't read this thread CY will be a #1 album in the UK, unless One Direction will release something. But the question is: How much will it stay in the chart?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 18, 2015 16:02:02 GMT -5
It's nice that you guys are discussing this, however... Does it really matter? I doubt Noel cares as much as some of you guys - haha. If I hadn't of read the thread title I wouldn't have even considered the matter. The charts nowadays seem to be so full of rubbish that I couldn't care less what how much of the general public listens to Noel's songs. Frankly the 'general publics' taste in 'good' music is so shocking that I'm not at all surprised to see it's all manufactured. Everyone knows what they like... so if people like Noel wanted chart success he'd deliberately write for it (like 90% of pop artist writers do)... and it'd be shit. However I bet it'd do twice as well as anything he's going to release. Noel pretty much summed it up with: "If you're Number One in the charts now, it automatically means you must be shit. Bands now go cap-in-hand to the industry and the industry has already decided what it wants for the fucking chart stars. But the charts are all the fucking same. Every single song in the Top 10 is the same shit with a different voice."Of course, this isn't the case with every single song, but a painfully high percentage. Chart success is pretty much meaningless to any respectable band/duo or individual loosely fitting the 'rock' genre. It's all about the critical acclaim, baby "A #1 worldwide hit or Manchester City Winning the Champions League?" Noel: "#1 worldwide hit" Anyway, if you are not into charts it's pretty simple, actually: don't read this thread CY will be a #1 album in the UK, unless One Direction will release something. But the question is: How much will it stay in the chart? Haven't they just released something?
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jan 18, 2015 16:02:12 GMT -5
It's nice that you guys are discussing this, however... Does it really matter? I doubt Noel cares as much as some of you guys - haha. If I hadn't of read the thread title I wouldn't have even considered the matter. The charts nowadays seem to be so full of rubbish that I couldn't care less what how much of the general public listens to Noel's songs. Frankly the 'general publics' taste in 'good' music is so shocking that I'm not at all surprised to see it's all manufactured. Everyone knows what they like... so if people like Noel wanted chart success he'd deliberately write for it (like 90% of pop artist writers do)... and it'd be shit. However I bet it'd do twice as well as anything he's going to release. Noel pretty much summed it up with: "If you're Number One in the charts now, it automatically means you must be shit. Bands now go cap-in-hand to the industry and the industry has already decided what it wants for the fucking chart stars. But the charts are all the fucking same. Every single song in the Top 10 is the same shit with a different voice."Of course, this isn't the case with every single song, but a painfully high percentage. Chart success is pretty much meaningless to any respectable band/duo or individual loosely fitting the 'rock' genre. It's all about the critical acclaim, baby "A #1 worldwide hit or Manchester City Winning the Champions League?" Noel: "#1 worldwide hit" Anyway, if you are not into charts it's pretty simple, actually: don't read this thread
CY will be a #1 album in the UK, unless One Direction will release something As soon as I've replied I won't be. I think most musicians would love a worldwide hit, Noel included, but who really cares about places 2-200. He'd have to write something in the vain of 'Wonderwall' or 'Don't Look Back in Anger' to do that again and who wouldn't want to write a song of that standard.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 18, 2015 16:25:39 GMT -5
It's nice that you guys are discussing this, however... Does it really matter? I doubt Noel cares as much as some of you guys - haha. If I hadn't of read the thread title I wouldn't have even considered the matter. The charts nowadays seem to be so full of rubbish that I couldn't care less what how much of the general public listens to Noel's songs. Frankly the 'general publics' taste in 'good' music is so shocking that I'm not at all surprised to see it's all manufactured. Everyone knows what they like... so if people like Noel wanted chart success he'd deliberately write for it (like 90% of pop artist writers do)... and it'd be shit. However I bet it'd do twice as well as anything he's going to release. Noel pretty much summed it up with: "If you're Number One in the charts now, it automatically means you must be shit. Bands now go cap-in-hand to the industry and the industry has already decided what it wants for the fucking chart stars. But the charts are all the fucking same. Every single song in the Top 10 is the same shit with a different voice."Of course, this isn't the case with every single song, but a painfully high percentage. Chart success is pretty much meaningless to any respectable band/duo or individual loosely fitting the 'rock' genre. It's all about the critical acclaim, baby "A #1 worldwide hit or Manchester City Winning the Champions League?" Noel: "#1 worldwide hit" Anyway, if you are not into charts it's pretty simple, actually: don't read this thread CY will be a #1 album in the UK, unless One Direction will release something. But the question is: How much will it stay in the chart? That's cause Man City fans don't seem to give a fuck about the Champions League
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Post by themightyeye on Jan 19, 2015 1:04:07 GMT -5
Dying of the Light is this albums only hope for a hit i think unless he over produced it like if i had a gun.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 19, 2015 2:41:44 GMT -5
Sorry LIB, wrong thread.
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Post by mossy on Jan 19, 2015 7:21:32 GMT -5
Wow, that's worse than I expected. Thought it would at least get in the top 40. Both TDOYAM & WAL went top 20... TDOYAM & WAL weren't instant grats. One instant grat is allowed to count towards the singles chart, so one of the new singles is comparable to the old ones, most likely ITHOTM, That's presuming they didn't hold that honour back for Riverman...
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 19, 2015 7:24:56 GMT -5
Did he post another Tom Brady photo? Becaus that guy is awesome and is like our Noel Gallagher of football. Plus he and his wife are smoking hot. On to Seattle!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 19, 2015 7:26:32 GMT -5
Dying of the Light is this albums only hope for a hit i think unless he over produced it like if i had a gun. That's a tad early to proclaim. A lot of people had similar thoughts about "If I Had A Gun" and it ended up being Noel's worst charting single at #95. I think a catchy rocker will out do a 5 minute ballad in this musical climate.
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Post by Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh on Jan 19, 2015 9:30:31 GMT -5
Did he post another Tom Brady photo? Becaus that guy is awesome and is like our Noel Gallagher of football. Plus he and his wife are smoking hot. 8- On to Seattle! If Noel really wants a #1 album, he needs to get Tom Brady on the album - maybe play bass or write a song, which ever. God bless.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 19, 2015 10:34:59 GMT -5
Spotify streaming is 106.087 Just took a look at #100 of our charts here, and it has over 5 million streams..
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Post by andymorris on Jan 19, 2015 10:57:45 GMT -5
#75 in the charts but #1239482523452752742384723572357234592356346553467367 in our hearts. There, fixed Not surprised that it doesn't chart. Noel is alienating his fan base and trying to attract people with a U2/coldplay esque song, but people want U2 and Coldplay, not a copy of that. Maybe it'll chart better once the song is widespread, like What a Life took time to kick off, but then again WAL was a tune.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Jan 19, 2015 11:05:15 GMT -5
#75 in the charts but #1239482523452752742384723572357234592356346553467367 in our hearts. There, fixed Not surprised that it doesn't chart. Noel is alienating his fan base and trying to attract people with a U2/coldplay esque song, but people want U2 and Coldplay, not a copy of that. Maybe it'll chart better once the song is widespread, like What a Life took time to kick off, but then again WAL was a tune. You really are a bore.
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Post by andymorris on Jan 19, 2015 11:37:51 GMT -5
Fanboi.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 11:40:51 GMT -5
THE DAYS OF NOEL NEEDING OR WANTING CHART SUCCESS ARE OVER ...SO CHART NONESENSE NO LONGER MATTERS ......AS NOEL NO LONGER CRAVES IT ...SIMPLE AS .CASE CLOSED.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 19, 2015 11:42:42 GMT -5
THE DAYS OF NOEK NEEDINF ORVWANTING CHARTBSUCCESS ARE OVER ...SO CHART NONESENSE NO LONGER MATTERS ......AS NOEL NO LONGER CRAVES IT ...SIMPLE AS .CASE CLOSED Kalas is that you?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 11:45:28 GMT -5
THE DAYS OF NOEK NEEDINF ORVWANTING CHARTBSUCCESS ARE OVER ...SO CHART NONESENSE NO LONGER MATTERS ......AS NOEL NO LONGER CRAVES IT ...SIMPLE AS .CASE CLOSED Kalas is that you? Who is this kalas ?? Last I checked Macleod took his head on Eiffel Tower . Hope all is well with your family
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Post by LlAM on Jan 19, 2015 11:51:49 GMT -5
Fixed
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Post by lamboasis on Jan 19, 2015 12:36:59 GMT -5
Charts are shit, and we all know that. For rock artist it's very hard because their most important thing is the album. Pop artists most important things are singles, they sold more singles than albums (like Taylor Swift) indeed.
Look at the poor Johnny Marr. He's great but 0 top 100 singles. Black Keys, 0 top 50 singles in UK. Kasabian 0 top 20 singles since 2009. Muse 1 top 20 single since 2010, Paul weller 0 top 20 singles since 2008 etc.
Noel did quite well with his singles. But a #75 is very bad for the second single.
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Post by World71R on Jan 19, 2015 14:21:25 GMT -5
Charts are shit, and we all know that. For rock artist it's very hard because their most important thing is the album. Pop artists most important things are singles, they sold more singles than albums (like Taylor Swift) indeed. Look at the poor Johnny Marr. He's great but 0 top 100 singles. Black Keys, 0 top 50 singles in UK. Kasabian 0 top 20 singles since 2009. Muse 1 top 20 single since 2010, Paul weller 0 top 20 singles since 2008 etc. Noel did quite well with his singles. But a #75 is very bad for the second single.The official single release isn't for another month. Rest easy, MadFerIt.
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Post by carlober on Jan 19, 2015 14:41:20 GMT -5
#75 in the charts but #1239482523452752742384723572357234592356346553467367 in our hearts. There, fixed Not surprised that it doesn't chart. Noel is alienating his fan base and trying to attract people with a U2/coldplay esque song, but people want U2 and Coldplay, not a copy of that.Maybe it'll chart better once the song is widespread, like What a Life took time to kick off, but then again WAL was a tune. Yeah, because a lot of Noel-esque songs like IIHAG charted really high in the past...
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Post by deasy on Jan 19, 2015 16:49:12 GMT -5
Sales of 5,065 in the UK last week. Not bad considering anyone that preordered the album to get the track doesnt count as a single sale.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jan 20, 2015 17:55:07 GMT -5
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Post by lamboasis on Jan 20, 2015 18:17:35 GMT -5
In the UK 100 Spotify/streaming streams (at least 30 seconds) = 1 copy. So that's good
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Post by oasisserbia on Jan 20, 2015 20:01:23 GMT -5
Number 8 at 10 biggest track right now on mtv adria :-)
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