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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 14, 2015 12:42:42 GMT -5
Shame. Within a month the masses will have forgotten about it. I would have liked for it to chart here. HATE TO SAY IT ........... BUT TOLD YA SO  ........ Nothing charted here after DLBIA to be fair. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 12:49:11 GMT -5
HATE TO SAY IT ........... BUT TOLD YA SO ........ Nothing charted here after DLBIA to be fair. True ..but all the start chart speculation made me laugh , i said it will BOMB , ( not counting UK ) and it will have no legs ..... ......it will be 5.99 bargain bin cd within 2 years....... So many made these bold predictions of glory .....i said from get go .....it will be lukewarm ......at best ....and im right No suprise |
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Post by dtr2014 on Jan 14, 2015 12:52:01 GMT -5
But saying that a single is going to bomb on the US charts, is not really sticking your neck out there. Even Oasis singles didn't do anything over here.
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Post by spaneli on Jan 14, 2015 13:01:23 GMT -5
It was a fool's errand to believe that it would chart that soon anyways. It's being downloaded as a straight mp3 and has only been out a day and a half. Will continue saying this, I-TUNES is NOT the end all be all of chart placement. But people keep looking at I-tunes trying to make prediction solely off that. And say what people will, 99% of people do not ONLY buy mp3's. Especially, Gallagher fans who are completists and love physical copies. When people are making chart prediction they have to take that into account. Also remember, most of the artists ahead of him have a two day head start on sales. He was NOT going to make that up in a day and a half. He'll run consistently behind for the rest of the week. His charting will depend on how well he sells throughout the week because it's going to take a strong strong showing throughout the week to pass some artists up. Anyways, he may chart later in the week once he has a few more sales behind him. At this rate he's picking up sales faster than the people ahead of him so he has that going for him. We'll see on the next chart update. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jan 14, 2015 13:29:10 GMT -5
Nothing charted here after DLBIA to be fair. True ..but all the start chart speculation made me laugh , i said it will BOMB , ( not counting UK ) and it will have no legs ..... ......it will be 5.99 bargain bin cd within 2 years....... So many made these bold predictions of glory .....i said from get go .....it will be lukewarm ......at best ....and im right No suprise The album will still be top 5 at least, more likely #1. We get that you don't like the song, but don't thrash the album until it's released. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 13:31:45 GMT -5
True ..but all the start chart speculation made me laugh , i said it will BOMB , ( not counting UK ) and it will have no legs ..... ......it will be 5.99 bargain bin cd within 2 years....... So many made these bold predictions of glory .....i said from get go .....it will be lukewarm ......at best ....and im right No suprise The album will still be top 5 at least, more likely #1. We get that you don't like the song, but don't thrash the album until it's released. Huh ?? Not trashing ..giving a opinion man. Sorry |
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Post by lamboasis on Jan 14, 2015 14:34:17 GMT -5
It was a fool's errand to believe that it would chart that soon anyways. It's being downloaded as a straight mp3 and has only been out a day and a half. Will continue saying this, I-TUNES is NOT the end all be all of chart placement. But people keep looking at I-tunes trying to make prediction solely off that. And say what people will, 99% of people do not ONLY buy mp3's. Especially, Gallagher fans who are completists and love physical copies. When people are making chart prediction they have to take that into account. Also remember, most of the artists ahead of him have a two day head start on sales. He was NOT going to make that up in a day and a half. He'll run consistently behind for the rest of the week. His charting will depend on how well he sells throughout the week because it's going to take a strong strong showing throughout the week to pass some artists up. Anyways, he may chart later in the week once he has a few more sales behind him. At this rate he's picking up sales faster than the people ahead of him so he has that going for him. We'll see on the next chart update. Well, +99% of singles in 2014 in UK were bought digitally. Not only on iTunes, but it's the biggest music shop by far for singles. Anyway the vinyl is doing well, #2 after Hope for the Future by Macca. Spotify counts too and BOTMI did not well yesterday (12.700 streams) But still: - According to the Official Charts Company Noel is not releasing anything this week - BOTMI Vinyl will be out in february. So, if BOTMI is going to chart this week pre-orders of the vinyls will count? Oh, well  Since the song is doing better than ITHOM (not only on the chart) it's ok |
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Post by lamboasis on Jan 15, 2015 6:51:16 GMT -5
BOTMI down at #13 on itunes, but Chasing Yesterday is still in the top 30, and that's the most important thing for him. ITHOTM #56, DTD #82.
600.000 Youtube views, way better than ITHOTM.
35.000 streams on Spotify. Not good, he'll lose position on the chart for this
On Amazon UK Vinyl Chart BOTMI down at #4, CY #8, ITHOTM #15
CY #39, BOTMI MP3 #26
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 15, 2015 13:07:33 GMT -5
Why isn't BOTMI doing good on spotify, I wonder?
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Post by jaq515 on Jan 15, 2015 13:37:45 GMT -5
It was a fool's errand to believe that it would chart that soon anyways. It's being downloaded as a straight mp3 and has only been out a day and a half. Will continue saying this, I-TUNES is NOT the end all be all of chart placement. But people keep looking at I-tunes trying to make prediction solely off that. And say what people will, 99% of people do not ONLY buy mp3's. Especially, Gallagher fans who are completists and love physical copies. When people are making chart prediction they have to take that into account. Also remember, most of the artists ahead of him have a two day head start on sales. He was NOT going to make that up in a day and a half. He'll run consistently behind for the rest of the week. His charting will depend on how well he sells throughout the week because it's going to take a strong strong showing throughout the week to pass some artists up. Anyways, he may chart later in the week once he has a few more sales behind him. At this rate he's picking up sales faster than the people ahead of him so he has that going for him. We'll see on the next chart update. Well, +99% of singles in 2014 in UK were bought digitally. Not only on iTunes, but it's the biggest music shop by far for singles. Anyway the vinyl is doing well, #2 after Hope for the Future by Macca. Spotify counts too and BOTMI did not well yesterday (12.700 streams) But still: - According to the Official Charts Company Noel is not releasing anything this week - BOTMI Vinyl will be out in february. So, if BOTMI is going to chart this week pre-orders of the vinyls will count? Oh, well Since the song is doing better than ITHOM (not only on the chart) it's ok no things only count towards the charts when they are bought/shipped. so the vinyls singles don't count this week (just like album preorders wouldn't count this week). Obviously this week isnt the official date for the single but any that are bought digitally will count like any other track thats been bought You are correct that a massive portion of singles bought are digital / streams because mostly thats all thats available for singles, even Noels binned of CDS now and very few artists make 7' singles. Obviously Gallagher fans are completists and will buy the vinyl to collect but theyll still buy it digitally to have on their phone etc to make listening easier |
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Post by allingoodtime on Jan 15, 2015 14:54:12 GMT -5
Weak song imo, didnt expect it to chart
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Post by lamboasis on Jan 15, 2015 15:05:00 GMT -5
Weak song imo, didnt expect it to chart C'mon, it will be it in the top 100 at least Like every Noel's single |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 15, 2015 15:05:08 GMT -5
Well, +99% of singles in 2014 in UK were bought digitally. Not only on iTunes, but it's the biggest music shop by far for singles. Anyway the vinyl is doing well, #2 after Hope for the Future by Macca. Spotify counts too and BOTMI did not well yesterday (12.700 streams) But still: - According to the Official Charts Company Noel is not releasing anything this week - BOTMI Vinyl will be out in february. So, if BOTMI is going to chart this week pre-orders of the vinyls will count? Oh, well Since the song is doing better than ITHOM (not only on the chart) it's ok no things only count towards the charts when they are bought/shipped. so the vinyls singles don't count this week (just like album preorders wouldn't count this week). Obviously this week isnt the official date for the single but any that are bought digitally will count like any other track thats been bought You are correct that a massive portion of singles bought are digital / streams because mostly thats all thats available for singles, even Noels binned of CDS now and very few artists make 7' singles. Obviously Gallagher fans are completists and will buy the vinyl to collect but theyll still buy it digitally to have on their phone etc to make listening easier Yes, I know the vinyl sales don't count. That's why I said it's being counted as only an mp3 only. Because digital sales are the only ones that count at the moment.  I don't think physical copies make up too much of a difference. For most artists it probably doesn't hurt them more than a spot. For Gallagher related projects where fans are willing to buy multiple physical copies it plays a slightly larger role. So possibly two spots instead of one. |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 15, 2015 15:05:06 GMT -5
Well, +99% of singles in 2014 in UK were bought digitally. Not only on iTunes, but it's the biggest music shop by far for singles. Anyway the vinyl is doing well, #2 after Hope for the Future by Macca. Spotify counts too and BOTMI did not well yesterday (12.700 streams) But still: - According to the Official Charts Company Noel is not releasing anything this week - BOTMI Vinyl will be out in february. So, if BOTMI is going to chart this week pre-orders of the vinyls will count? Oh, well Since the song is doing better than ITHOM (not only on the chart) it's ok no things only count towards the charts when they are bought/shipped. so the vinyls singles don't count this week (just like album preorders wouldn't count this week). Obviously this week isnt the official date for the single but any that are bought digitally will count like any other track thats been bought You are correct that a massive portion of singles bought are digital / streams because mostly thats all thats available for singles, even Noels binned of CDS now and very few artists make 7' singles. Obviously Gallagher fans are completists and will buy the vinyl to collect but theyll still buy it digitally to have on their phone etc to make listening easier Yes, I know the vinyl sales don't count. That's why I said it's being counted as only an mp3 only. Because digital sales are the only ones that count at the moment. I don't think physical copies make up too much of a difference. For most artists it probably doesn't hurt them more than a spot. For Gallagher related projects where fans are willing to buy multiple physical copies it plays a slightly larger role. So possibly two spots instead of one. |
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Post by spyrosfab4 on Jan 15, 2015 15:29:59 GMT -5
Worse songs chart every day at this era of truly shit songs rulling the charts.It is a weak song with a great modern production so it may chart even in the top twenty.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jan 15, 2015 15:37:58 GMT -5
Worse songs chart every day at this era of truly shit songs rulling the charts.It is a weak song with a great modern production so it may chart even in the top twenty. Is your name Grimlock? Because you are a dinosaur. |
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Post by jaq515 on Jan 15, 2015 15:53:31 GMT -5
no things only count towards the charts when they are bought/shipped. so the vinyls singles don't count this week (just like album preorders wouldn't count this week). Obviously this week isnt the official date for the single but any that are bought digitally will count like any other track thats been bought You are correct that a massive portion of singles bought are digital / streams because mostly thats all thats available for singles, even Noels binned of CDS now and very few artists make 7' singles. Obviously Gallagher fans are completists and will buy the vinyl to collect but theyll still buy it digitally to have on their phone etc to make listening easier Yes, I know the vinyl sales don't count. That's why I said it's being counted as only an mp3 only. Because digital sales are the only ones that count at the moment. I don't think physical copies make up too much of a difference. For most artists it probably doesn't hurt them more than a spot. For Gallagher related projects where fans are willing to buy multiple physical copies it plays a slightly larger role. So possibly two spots instead of one. exsqueeze me? i was answering his question about vinyls. Did i quote you buy mistake? apologies if i did if not I'm not sure why your saying this to me? like i said most artist don't have a physical presence at all with singles thus why was agreeing with lambo about the fact digital is about 99% of all sales. Im not sure what point you are making as you said 99% of people don't just buy digital?? So you were saying only 1% of people do only buy digital.. I'm not sure you are right with that stat tbh. Now your saying physical copies don't make a difference |
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Post by deasy on Jan 15, 2015 16:39:30 GMT -5
It was at 69 in Thursday's midweeks. May get itself into the top 50 or so, which is pretty good considering its an Instant Grat.
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Post by gdforever on Jan 15, 2015 16:43:53 GMT -5
It was at 69 in Thursday's midweeks. May get itself into the top 50 or so, which is pretty good considering its an Instant Grat. I'm genuinely surprised by that. It's only from digital downloads by people that didn't preorder the album that are counting right? |
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Post by jaq515 on Jan 15, 2015 16:52:57 GMT -5
It was at 69 in Thursday's midweeks. May get itself into the top 50 or so, which is pretty good considering its an Instant Grat. I'm genuinely surprised by that. It's only from digital downloads by people that didn't preorder the album that are counting right? No |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 15, 2015 16:53:57 GMT -5
Yes, I know the vinyl sales don't count. That's why I said it's being counted as only an mp3 only. Because digital sales are the only ones that count at the moment. I don't think physical copies make up too much of a difference. For most artists it probably doesn't hurt them more than a spot. For Gallagher related projects where fans are willing to buy multiple physical copies it plays a slightly larger role. So possibly two spots instead of one. exsqueeze me? i was answering his question about vinyls. Did i quote you buy mistake? apologies if i did if not I'm not sure why your saying this to me? like i said most artist don't have a physical presence at all with singles thus why was agreeing with lambo about the fact digital is about 99% of all sales. Im not sure what point you are making as you said 99% of people don't just buy digital?? So you were saying only 1% of people do only buy digital.. I'm not sure you are right with that stat tbh. Now your saying physical copies don't make a difference Ahhhhh my bad. I'm on my phone and it appeared that you did quote me. |
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Post by jaq515 on Jan 15, 2015 17:01:18 GMT -5
exsqueeze me? i was answering his question about vinyls. Did i quote you buy mistake? apologies if i did if not I'm not sure why your saying this to me? like i said most artist don't have a physical presence at all with singles thus why was agreeing with lambo about the fact digital is about 99% of all sales. Im not sure what point you are making as you said 99% of people don't just buy digital?? So you were saying only 1% of people do only buy digital.. I'm not sure you are right with that stat tbh. Now your saying physical copies don't make a difference Ahhhhh my bad. I'm on my phone and it appeared that you did quote me. weird :// Phones often make things difficult, did you use is calculator to work out your 99% / 1% stat too |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 15, 2015 17:24:55 GMT -5
I'm genuinely surprised by that. It's only from digital downloads by people that didn't preorder the album that are counting right? No so what counts? |
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Post by jaq515 on Jan 15, 2015 17:31:56 GMT -5
It's already been said, and same as any track that enters the charts .. Tracks that are bought this week. Anyone how pre ordered the album on itunes and amazon paid 99p for BOTMI this week to "instant grat / instant DL" but they were really just buying the track. Then streams on streaming sites count every 100 stream equal 1 download Then any site that had it for sale as a download.. |
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Post by mossy on Jan 15, 2015 18:27:11 GMT -5
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Since the song is doing better than ITHOM (not only on the chart) it's ok
