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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 25, 2015 18:48:44 GMT -5
It's probably the most Noel has ever apes off The Beatles. I mean it sounds like a lost studio demo from the Revolver sessions for crying out loud. Like their first attempt at "Rain". I can see why Noel didn't have it on HC, DBTT or DOYS. Same reason a song like "She Must Be One of Us" probably won't see the light of day. It's a complete Bob Dylan rip off from Blonde On Blonde. Yet people have no issues with songs like Waiting for the Rapture, Mucky Fingers, Who Put The World..., Shout it Out Loud, etc.? You may argue that these tracks are of course better than The Good Rebel, but they are as obvious in terms of ripping off another artist. As a matter of fact, they rip off one specific song each (two in the case of SIOL), whereas The Good Rebel (leaving aside the drum pattern) apes the style of a band at a point in time (that being transitional, mid-60s Beatles). And that's just looking at post-SOTSOG Noel-sung tracks. I'm simply not buying that people get touchy when Noel rips off something, since we all got used to that long ago. I think the issue here is that for once he was copying something people could recognize immediately, whereas they might not spot the similarities on the other tracks as fast. TL;DR version: You may argue the song is shit, but the "it's shit because it's a rip-off" argument doesn't work when dealing with Noel-penned songs. Oasis/Noel/Liam already have to deal with so much Beatles comparisons, especially in America in 2005, releasing The Good Rebel would have played into their critics hands as being Fab Four rip offs which of course is not true. It also doesn't help that it sounds so similar to the Beatles' Rain.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 20:41:54 GMT -5
sounds like something macca would have done.
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Post by lenlagher on Feb 25, 2015 20:47:53 GMT -5
A fun little tune. Not very good though, but thats ok. To be honest I would've been very surprised (and a bit annoyed) if it was a new LAMB, a fantastic tune left off the album for no apparent reason.
So unless future singles have b-sides we've never heard this should be the last new track we get from the CY era.
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Post by fabulousbakers on Feb 26, 2015 1:53:00 GMT -5
I'm really enjoying this track.
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Post by shoes222 on Feb 26, 2015 2:14:08 GMT -5
Now you're making me wish The Hindu Times was on Chasing Yesterday. Probably would have sound trippy as fuck or more like the demo with this album's style of production.
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Feb 26, 2015 2:51:05 GMT -5
I chuckled when I heard Noel and whoever was helping him record the track talking.
[N]: "The one and only take?" [X]: "Yep!" [N]: "Thank you!" [X]: "Yeah!"
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Post by MacaRonic on Feb 26, 2015 3:25:55 GMT -5
I'm enjoying this tune. It's not great but it's good and perfect as a bonus track. You'd swear that was Macca on bass, I think it's the first ever Oasis related release that you'd think it was actually The Beatles during the instrumental bit.
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Post by Banksy on Feb 26, 2015 3:59:51 GMT -5
I have all the bonus tracks. If these are required how do I share them?
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Post by Banksy on Feb 26, 2015 4:04:55 GMT -5
I have all the bonus tracks. If these are required how do I share them? Did I miss the boat?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 26, 2015 4:18:13 GMT -5
It's probably the most Noel has ever apes off The Beatles. I mean it sounds like a lost studio demo from the Revolver sessions for crying out loud. Like their first attempt at "Rain". I can see why Noel didn't have it on HC, DBTT or DOYS. Same reason a song like "She Must Be One of Us" probably won't see the light of day. It's a complete Bob Dylan rip off from Blonde On Blonde. Yet people have no issues with songs like Waiting for the Rapture, Mucky Fingers, Who Put The World..., Shout it Out Loud, etc.? You may argue that these tracks are of course better than The Good Rebel, but they are as obvious in terms of ripping off another artist. As a matter of fact, they rip off one specific song each (two in the case of SIOL), whereas The Good Rebel (leaving aside the drum pattern) apes the style of a band at a point in time (that being transitional, mid-60s Beatles). And that's just looking at post-SOTSOG Noel-sung tracks. I'm simply not buying that people get touchy when Noel rips off something, since we all got used to that long ago. I think the issue here is that for once he was copying something people could recognize immediately, whereas they might not spot the similarities on the other tracks as fast. TL;DR version: You may argue the song is shit, but the "it's shit because it's a rip-off" argument doesn't work when dealing with Noel-penned songs. I don't think Oasis sounded anything like The Beatles bar a few songs here and there. They had there own sound and a very unique singer. People are a product of their collections and what they like. This song is about as Beatles as it gets and I'm sure Noel was aware of it when he was recording it. Its a nice tune and I don't think The Beatles should be allowed a monopoly on that sound forever.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 26, 2015 5:03:47 GMT -5
May have missed something or gone deaf but what songs does Shout It Out Loud sound like exactly? O.o
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Post by Doc Lobster on Feb 26, 2015 5:26:05 GMT -5
May have missed something or gone deaf but what songs does Shout It Out Loud sound like exactly? O.o Cortez the Killer (arrangement in the verse section) and Comfortably Numb (guitar solo section).
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Post by andymorris on Feb 26, 2015 5:51:21 GMT -5
I love that song more and more. It's cheesy, but fun. and the production is pretty cool. Very Macca in his early solo career.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Feb 26, 2015 5:55:28 GMT -5
The cell phone signal at the end still bothers me
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Post by Tman on Feb 26, 2015 6:40:32 GMT -5
Could have been on the "White Album".
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Post by good-rebel on Feb 26, 2015 7:43:43 GMT -5
It would be hard to convince me that this song is not about Liam
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Post by mytwocents on Feb 26, 2015 8:39:54 GMT -5
Really White Album this song. B.side stuff, but it's the kind of nice little Tunes I like Noel to put out as bonus tracks. Of course, he can write like 20 songs like this in a week, expecially in this period, when he seems prolific and inspired.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 26, 2015 10:46:29 GMT -5
It would be hard to convince me that this song is not about Liam I'm pretty sure it's about an old girlfriend. Took his guitar (which he loves), took his clothes... The person has angel eyes. Hid his poems and prose (his music). And he's pleading, obviously for the person to return. That's a literal take on it. I suppose it could be metaphors and symbolism to mean Liam, but I doubt it. I think it's plainly about a girl that he loved who left and took a lot of his shit. We've all heard this story.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 10:55:32 GMT -5
It would be hard to convince me that this song is not about Liam I'm pretty sure it's about an old girlfriend. Took his guitar (which he loves), took his clothes... The person has angel eyes. Hid his poems and prose (his music). And he's pleading, obviously for the person to return. That's a literal take on it. I suppose it could be metaphors and symbolism to mean Liam, but I doubt it. I think it's plainly about a girl that he loved who left and took a lot of his shit. We've all heard this story. It could be the same girl that was the protagonist of Married With Children and Noel's only just seen the error of his ways.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 26, 2015 10:57:35 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it's about an old girlfriend. Took his guitar (which he loves), took his clothes... The person has angel eyes. Hid his poems and prose (his music). And he's pleading, obviously for the person to return. That's a literal take on it. I suppose it could be metaphors and symbolism to mean Liam, but I doubt it. I think it's plainly about a girl that he loved who left and took a lot of his shit. We've all heard this story. It could be the same girl that was the protagonist of Married With Children and Noel's only just seen the error of his ways. You might be onto something.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 26, 2015 11:14:51 GMT -5
May have missed something or gone deaf but what songs does Shout It Out Loud sound like exactly? O.o Cortez the Killer (arrangement in the verse section) and Comfortably Numb (guitar solo section). The end product sounds like neither to me.
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Post by LlAM on Feb 26, 2015 11:17:56 GMT -5
For what it is, this tune is getting waaaay too much attention
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Post by Ltrain on Feb 26, 2015 13:15:09 GMT -5
For what it is, this tune is getting waaaay too much attention Not for me. It's my 5th favorite song out of the CY group.
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Feb 26, 2015 13:45:15 GMT -5
Nothing amazing but its been growing on me, a fun little b-side.
I still find amazing how people want Noel to write songs about Liam. He never did and apparently never will. It's annoying and, most of times, borderline incest like in this song...
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Post by LightsOffInside on Feb 26, 2015 14:00:48 GMT -5
Despite what people are saying about this track, I still find it stuck in my head long after the first listen
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