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Post by LightsOffInside on May 13, 2015 11:51:57 GMT -5
I couldn't care less if the single doesn't chart. Go and listen to the Number 1 single in the charts right now - it is fucking dreadful. If thats what denotes a number one single, then the charts don't even deserve Noel  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 13, 2015 12:00:11 GMT -5
#27 in the midweek update Stream sales are missing so that's why it's so high,sadly there's no way it'll be there at then end of the week At least Radio 1 was forced to play him today  What are we talking about here? The single? Yes Riverman |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 12:21:20 GMT -5
Album's at #18 in the update
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on May 13, 2015 13:55:38 GMT -5
I couldn't care less if the single doesn't chart. Go and listen to the Number 1 single in the charts right now - it is fucking dreadful. If thats what denotes a number one single, then the charts don't even deserve Noel ![]()  |
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Post by batfink30 on May 13, 2015 13:57:11 GMT -5
I couldn't care less if the single doesn't chart. Go and listen to the Number 1 single in the charts right now - it is fucking dreadful. If thats what denotes a number one single, then the charts don't even deserve Noel It's a fucking shite song isn't it......what is it again? |
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Post by lamboasis on May 14, 2015 5:54:29 GMT -5
BBC Radio 2 Airplay Chart (most popular radio station) 16 april - 13 may
#10 Riverman
Question: for the chart all the streams count or just the streams that Riverman got since sunday? I guess the second
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 14, 2015 6:05:17 GMT -5
BBC Radio 2 Airplay Chart (most popular radio station) 16 april - 13 may #10 Riverman Question: for the chart all the streams count or just the streams that Riverman got since sunday? I guess the second Radio 6 is playing it a lot too,but that's kind of an alternative radio station I think Yes,just the streams it got since sunday |
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Post by lamboasis on May 15, 2015 2:28:17 GMT -5
The addition of Streaming ruined the singles chart.
Thank you idiots.
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 15, 2015 2:29:19 GMT -5
The addition of Streaming ruined the singles chart. Thank you idiots. Yeah, many artists missing the chance of having a top 40 single because of streaming sales |
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Post by vespa on May 15, 2015 2:45:44 GMT -5
itunes and now streaming have completely ruined the charts, its now garbage
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Post by Manualex on May 15, 2015 3:00:19 GMT -5
itunes and now streaming have completely ruined the charts, its now garbage |
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Post by deasy on May 15, 2015 3:32:51 GMT -5
The way we digest music has changed. Streaming was brought into the charts to reflect this, I've no issue with that.
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Post by jaq515 on May 15, 2015 4:08:46 GMT -5
The way we digest music has changed. Streaming was brought into the charts to reflect this, I've no issue with that. Exactly. Times have changed the fact that 100 streams equals 1 sale means the charts are still heavily weighted towards bought copies. The charts are supposed to represent popular music which still the case, the most popular songs are steamed most. People have just as much opportunity to noel / oasis / beady eye as they do Taylor swift if they choose to steam her she deserves to be higher in the charts |
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 15, 2015 4:23:47 GMT -5
I know you only took her as an example, but Taylor Swift is one of those artists getting fucked by streams believe it or not |
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Post by lamboasis on May 15, 2015 4:25:35 GMT -5
I just think that even 2 or 3 or 4 years ago was easier for bands like Muse, Kasabian, Noel, Blur etc to chart in the singles chart. Now they can't even break the top 40. And it's sad. I don't know what changed, you tell me. But it's shit.
UK Singles chart is full of american plastic singers of hip hop and pop. And the kids like it because you know, they have to like it because the songs are everywhere. Once a guy said to me that American Oxygen by Rihanna is real music, not Champagne Supernova or Bohemian Rhapsody. They're fucking their minds.
I think that the rule of the streaming on albums chart is okay. Singles chart? Not sure. Let's add Youtube at this point, let's fuck it up even more
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 15, 2015 4:39:15 GMT -5
^
I think every top 40 looks like that
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Post by jaq515 on May 15, 2015 5:48:41 GMT -5
I know you only took her as an example, but Taylor Swift is one of those artists getting fucked by streams believe it or not How's she's getting fucked? I thought she didn't want to be on streaming to do with money/royalties? If that is what you mean that's completely different issue nothing to do with the charts. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 15, 2015 5:50:45 GMT -5
I know you only took her as an example, but Taylor Swift is one of those artists getting fucked by streams believe it or not How's she's getting fucked? I thought she didn't want to be on streaming to do with money/royalties? If that is what you mean that's completely different issue nothing to do with the charts. Her song Style has been in the top 40 in the sales chart for weeks, but not in the main one, she lost like 30 positions because of streaming last week |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 15, 2015 5:54:40 GMT -5
What gets streamed? Stupid lame ass shit like James Bay, that's what.
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 15, 2015 5:56:29 GMT -5
Anyway as predicted it looks like with streams added Riverman is out of the top 40, at least in today's update
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Post by jaq515 on May 15, 2015 5:56:47 GMT -5
I just think that even 2 or 3 or 4 years ago was easier for bands like Muse, Kasabian, Noel, Blur etc to chart in the singles chart. Now they can't even break the top 40. And it's sad. I don't know what changed, you tell me. But it's shit. UK Singles chart is full of american plastic singers of hip hop and pop. And the kids like it because you know, they have to like it because the songs are everywhere. Once a guy said to me that American Oxygen by Rihanna is real music, not Champagne Supernova or Bohemian Rhapsody. They're fucking their minds. I think that the rule of the streaming on albums chart is okay. Singles chart? Not sure. Let's add Youtube at this point, let's fuck it up even more Streaming only came in a few months back and the charts look same as before You talking about what music is popular. Bands aren't as popular anymore. Music is always recycling itself and guitar music and bands will rise again. What I don't get is this notion that streaming is creating unfair charts. Like I said previously people buy their spotify account and they can listen any act if they listen to noel or Taylor swift or blur or any act it costs the same. It should be argued like YT they can discover any artist for 'free' as they already paid for their subscription so must make the playing field fairer? |
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Post by lamboasis on May 15, 2015 6:35:19 GMT -5
I just think that even 2 or 3 or 4 years ago was easier for bands like Muse, Kasabian, Noel, Blur etc to chart in the singles chart. Now they can't even break the top 40. And it's sad. I don't know what changed, you tell me. But it's shit. UK Singles chart is full of american plastic singers of hip hop and pop. And the kids like it because you know, they have to like it because the songs are everywhere. Once a guy said to me that American Oxygen by Rihanna is real music, not Champagne Supernova or Bohemian Rhapsody. They're fucking their minds. I think that the rule of the streaming on albums chart is okay. Singles chart? Not sure. Let's add Youtube at this point, let's fuck it up even more Streaming only came in a few months back and the charts look same as before You talking about what music is popular. Bands aren't as popular anymore. Music is always recycling itself and guitar music and bands will rise again. What I don't get is this notion that streaming is creating unfair charts. Like I said previously people buy their spotify account and they can listen any act if they listen to noel or Taylor swift or blur or any act it costs the same. It should be argued like YT they can discover any artist for 'free' as they already paid for their subscription so must make the playing field fairer? Uhm.. no, they don't look the same as before. It depends. Without the streaming In the Heat of the Moment would have been a #16 or #17 (I can't remember) single. With the streaming it lost 10 positions. So no, it's not the same. With the streaming What a Life wouldn't have been as successful And paying 6 pounds or whatever a month and listening to a song it's not like buying it. Also I think that count in the chart the streams of people who haven't a premium account too, but I'm not sure. If so it's like Youtube. My opinion is that for the album chart is okay, for the singles chart not. They need to fix it and balancing it more. I quite agree with the last part |
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Post by lamboasis on May 15, 2015 7:00:16 GMT -5
How's she's getting fucked? I thought she didn't want to be on streaming to do with money/royalties? If that is what you mean that's completely different issue nothing to do with the charts. Her song Style has been in the top 40 in the sales chart for weeks, but not in the main one, she lost like 30 positions because of streaming last week Exactly, but she doesn't care because she sold like 9 million albums with 1989 |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 15, 2015 7:00:47 GMT -5
If Youtube streams would be counted, Gangnam Style would be #1 for the next 30 years.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 15, 2015 7:01:11 GMT -5
Her song Style has been in the top 40 in the sales chart for weeks, but not in the main one, she lost like 30 positions because of streaming last week Exactly, but she doesn't care because she sold like 9 million albums with 1989 NINE MILLION??!!! |
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