Are there 50 Cribs fans on here who bought their album? If so, shame on you! 

U2 are doing 6 nights at the O2 in London in November. Are they relevant just now? Just a question, I'm not saying they are or aren't.

Yeah, Dig Out Your Soul marked a long decline in alternative rock bands - the lack of impact the singles had showed the tide was beginning to turn. If The Shock Of The. Lightning had been released a few years earlier, it would have gone to number 1 like their previous lead singles. 2008 was the last gasp for alternative/rock, there was a shed load of indie bands on the radio, established acts like The Verve, Coldplay (when they were still good and not trying to appeal to teeny boppers) and Oasis were on the radio, heck, even U2 and REM were still on Radio 1 and they were approaching their fifties.

It's been a long decline but even I wasn't so sure it would be this bad years back.

The riverplate gig I renowned by many as one of the best oasis gigs ever?

I personally also thought Bridlington spa was one of the best gigs they ever did. Was truely amazing.

None of those gigs be remembered like Knebworth '96 ?? The point is irrelevant

None of those gigs will be remembered like Knebworth 96?

Well I don't think they will. As great as those gigs were that you mentioned, much of the crowd are there to see old hits played - it's the reason why Oasis could sell out in seconds yet struggle to sell a new album.

Rolling Stones could play one of their greatest gigs tomorrow, but to be truly great in a historical sense, I think it makes more sense when you are watching the greatness unfold before your very eyes. In 1996, Oasis were of the time, their music was exciting and those songs were brand new and hearing them played live for the first time is an experience you cannot replicate. They were of the zeitgeist so to speak and they were the trend setters, and everyone followed them like saviours - it must have been literally awe-inspiring. Difference with 09 is you know what to expect, and they aren't part of the cultural setting anymore. Every band goes through it.

And again, as great as the gigs were, I would easily swap them to see Oasis in their prime.

Exactly. The top five money makers last year according to Forbes was 1. Dr Dre 2. Beyoncé 3. The Eagles. 4. Bon Jovi. 5. Springsteen. Of the five only one is musically relevant today.


I've been agreeing with you too much lately and your posts have been easier to comprehend. Are you having Sally proof read them before you post?

kalas' theme song 




Man this song sucks though. 

That doesn't make sense. I don't care if those gigs aren't important just like Knebworth. But if you beat a record like that you are relevant. If not, there are no bands Who are relevant in the last 20 years.

And Oasis are still relevant Because they would sell out Knebworth again tomorrow if they want to.

DBTT sold like 7M albums but they are not relevant. Okay guys, i don't know what to say then. They were like a pub band After be Here now and they couldn't even sell out my home. That's what you want to hear.

So, I suppose Blur or The Stone Roses, The Smiths and many others never been relevant. They always sold less copies than Oasis in the 2000s and they played in smaller gigs even in their pomp times. Basically the only relevant bands since 1994 are Oasis and Coldplay.


It's funny cos you sell 20 million albums in 9 years, you have 11 Top 3 singles (4 #1s), 2 Guinness World Records, you sell out Wembley, Heaton Park etc, you sell 500k tickets in 5 hours (record in british history) but you're not relevant. Okay guys, no problem. Oasis were not relevant in the 2000s, we can end this here.

Yeah maybe you would cos you personally went to 1 gig in 09? that wasn't very good? Doesn't mean other gigs in that era weren't great

My point is same as yours that those gigs won't be remembered like Knebworth or Maine road but they were fantastic fantastic gigs in 08/09 and like you are putting that an oasis gig in their prime must've been great.. They weren't

My comment was more purely from the quality point of view

But about relevance they'll be plenty of people who were at those gigs for the first time who to them
It'll be more relevant gig than Knebworth and that's what music is about not what the NME or q magazine remember in history

This.

The world is much bigger than just the US. The fact that they weren't popular there after '97 doesn't mean they were irrelevant. There are loads of huge artists that don't make it big in the US.

Oasis weren't relevant after 1997.

I do sometimes forget this is a fan forum...outside the fan base, Oasis weren't relevant to the world. They just weren't.

Making music that transcends the fan base. I dare say, making amazing music, I mean, songs that are timeless...really influencing other music and bands, etc.

God bless.

Agreed. They didn't make anymore masterpieces after 1995. Critics weren't falling over themselves to listen to new Oasis material outside the UK. Sure they sold well overall but it wasn't the same level of commercial/artistic success that the band had between 1994-1997. I'm sure people on a Bon Jovi forum fawn over all his releases since the 80s and his mega world tours that continue to this day. The truth is he isn't relevant anymore and its strictly a Nostalgia trip.