andytr
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Post by andytr on Nov 8, 2014 8:20:47 GMT -5
I was shocked to see liam being linked to I'm a celebrity.
A few years ago I would have been dead against the idea and liam would have probably told them to fuck off straight away.
However circumstances change and from Liam's point of view I don't think he's got anything to lose.
Public opinion of liam is probably at an all time low- there was always oasis haters who didn't like him but I think since oasis split and beady eye not exactly setting the world alight,the love child fiasco ect ect the general public really aren't fussed by him at all.
He would get a massive appearance fee ( atleast £500k) which would help with a costly divorce and lovechild payments.
At worst he will come across as a dick but he still gets the big appearance fee. At best the public will warm to him, seeing how witty he can be and it will help raise his profile again.
I also think if he does go on show and becomes more popular noel might be more inclined to go for an oasis reunion.
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Post by LlAM on Nov 8, 2014 8:31:23 GMT -5
I hope he doesn't do it. And I highly doubt it'll change Noels mind on a reunion if he does.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 8, 2014 8:33:21 GMT -5
Yeah, Noel will probably agree with an Oasis reunion just because Liam has joined some stupid program.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 8, 2014 8:46:50 GMT -5
Who cares? The bloke is in his 40's and if he wants to go and do it I wouldn't mind. Its incredible how precious people are about music stars.
He better be prepared to lie in rats and shit because the public will definitely be voting him to do some challenges.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2014 9:03:54 GMT -5
I'd love him to do it, as I find I'm a celeb very entertaining and I'm sure he'd do very well on it. It would definitely raise his profile and really there is nothing he can lose from doing this even if he acts like a complete knobhead (which I don't think he would, I think we'd see his nicer side).
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Post by madforit1984 on Nov 8, 2014 9:25:37 GMT -5
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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 8, 2014 9:40:39 GMT -5
I think liam would be great, I'd certainly watch it all. John Lydon having done it previously makes it more likely I think.
He'd be doing the bush tucker trials every single day though I'm sure
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Post by Jgrp on Nov 8, 2014 14:19:07 GMT -5
Imagine he was on it and in a proper foul mood for 2 weeks acting like 2nd night at Wembley Stadium 2000 haha! People would hate him even more. 'C*nt f*ck breasts etc' people would despise him
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 8, 2014 14:34:57 GMT -5
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Post by Digsy's Dinner on Nov 8, 2014 14:50:34 GMT -5
Imagine he was on it and in a proper foul mood for 2 weeks acting like 2nd night at Wembley Stadium 2000 haha! People would hate him even more. 'C*nt f*ck breasts etc' people would despise him Treks through the bush and leafs, parka donned, has a look around "If you think i'm over the moon here yer fuckin trippin!" Can't be that skint though surely, not like he has to keep his profile raised either, every time he sneezes its front page on the Sun and NME
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Post by mememe26 on Nov 8, 2014 14:58:17 GMT -5
Fuckin' terrible idea if he goes on it. He's a musician for fuck sake not a reality TV star. If he does then it pretty much sums him up these days, leaves a band then goes on reality TV, fuckin' hell.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Nov 8, 2014 15:01:30 GMT -5
I hate reality shows. It's all scripted and or fake to begin with. If Liam wants to do it, then fine. I'm not sure how it will further his music career, but maybe he's done with that for now. It might be entertaining to watch Liam, but something like this could easily make people hate him more. Just have to wait and see I guess.
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Post by scott1 on Nov 8, 2014 15:05:06 GMT -5
Can't see him doing it, I think he'd get sick of the place quickly anyway, not to mention having to get on with whoever else they stick in there - "I dig all you, man. I dig all your offsprings. I dig all your pets. I dig everything. I just don't like shitholes."
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Post by Jgrp on Nov 8, 2014 16:00:03 GMT -5
Can't see him doing it, I think he'd get sick of the place quickly anyway, not to mention having to get on with whoever else they stick in there - "I dig all you, man. I dig all your offsprings. I dig all your pets. I dig everything. I just don't like shitholes." Hahaha This is for Bob Geldof. This is for fuckin' Simple Minds. This is for all those other fuckin' idiots like Ant and Dec.
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Nov 8, 2014 16:19:07 GMT -5
I draw parallels between Elvis and Liam, and Liam's now a solo artist like Elvis, basically.
In the late 60's/early 70's, Elvis' career was stagnate, his films weren't that great and he wasn't really doing albums, just the soundtracks for his films.
Around this time he collaborated/recorded with different/new songwriters and released songs like 'In the Ghetto', 'Suspicious Minds', 'Can't Help Falling In Love', 'Kentucky Rain', etc. and resurrected his career....
So, Liam don't go on a stupid fucking reality t.v. show, you're a fucking performer/singer, sing.
Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2014 16:29:22 GMT -5
I'd hate for him to do it, because it's what all the washed up has beens do. BUT it would be hysterical and I'd end up watching every second so...meh. He'd either act like a massive dick and try to mount all the females which would be hilarious to watch or he'd show what a clever, likeable guy he can be and get the gp on his side so from my pov as a fan it's a no lose if he does do it.
I still hope he doesn't though, he's Liam Gallagher ffs this guy!!!:
He isn't some orange wank towel from TOWIE
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Post by spaneli on Nov 8, 2014 18:22:00 GMT -5
I think this would be cool if it were for a decent reason. Like if he was doing this purely for charity.
I don't know, it just comes off as a money grab for a guy whose just washed out with his band. It sends all the wrong messages when Liam really needs to be sending the right ones, even if it's him not doing anything at all right now.
I agree with the sentiment that this isn't purely for publicity. Honestly, with Liam's name, he could find other ways of getting publicity pretty easily. He could call up anyone and get on stage with almost any artist right now or in the near future for a guest spot and get just as much if not more attention. This just wreaks of doing it for the money. And honestly, I guess it's his choice and he has every right to do it, but I really think think there are better ways of getting one's name out there.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 8, 2014 18:38:00 GMT -5
at the end of the day this is a tabloid story which doesn't mean anything.
im a celeb is different to normal reality show, shaun ryder crowning moment was when a snake locked it jaw onto his hand and he man'd up and bled a lot after. To be fair to liam he said in 09/10 he said he'd love to do it. They have a wide range of celebs who go on and it not just washed up and as people said above liam still commands front pages so he'd not be going in a a desperate be more like a they managed to get liam etc..
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Post by gdforever on Nov 8, 2014 19:19:33 GMT -5
I live in North America but I imagine that it's the same in the UK that the contestant on "celebrity reality shows" are full of people that were D-list celebrities at their height which was probably a decade ago?
I think that one of the biggest barriers Liam is going encounter in the coming years is breaking the conception that he is the untalented brother that failed post Oasis. Going on a show like this would only encourage this viewpoint even if he came off as a nicer guy than people thought. Going on an trash reality show a couple months after splitting with his post-Oasis band likely because of lack of interest while his brother is playing arenas
It's hard to turn around momentum. Liam is seen to be on a downward trajectory currently and this show would be seen as another step down I think. Liam is already going to struggle turning around from the lack of success with BDI without doing something like this before trying.
It's not like he needs it to increase his name recognition which I think is the only thing that is good for some of these "celebs" going forward.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 8, 2014 19:24:55 GMT -5
Gdforever's reply pretty much describes what I was thinking, except the North America and Damon Albarn part, so I very much agree with her. It won't really help his image, it will only help him financially.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 8, 2014 19:55:53 GMT -5
Gdforever's reply pretty much describes what I was thinking, except the North America and Damon Albarn part, so I very much agree with her. It won't really help his image, it will only help him financially. If that's true explain why the people who have done well on the show have really come out of it well and has helped their careers then?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 8, 2014 20:38:19 GMT -5
Gdforever's reply pretty much describes what I was thinking, except the North America and Damon Albarn part, so I very much agree with her. It won't really help his image, it will only help him financially. If that's true explain why the people who have done well on the show have really come out of it well and has helped their careers then? Quite considerably for some. I'm a Celebrity... is regarded slightly better than say Big Brother in Britain. I'm not particularly bothered either way if he does it or not but I will never understand the opinion that a couple of weeks in a jungle for tv would invalidate someones career as a musician. Is it any worse than Dylan promoting corporations at the super bowl? Or any artist lending there music to dubious big business promotional campaigns.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 8, 2014 21:05:29 GMT -5
If that's true explain why the people who have done well on the show have really come out of it well and has helped their careers then? Quite considerably for some. I'm a Celebrity... is regarded slightly better than say Big Brother in Britain. I'm not particularly bothered either way if he does it or not but I will never understand the opinion that a couple of weeks in a jungle for tv would invalidate someones career as a musician. Is it any worse than Dylan promoting corporations at the super bowl? Or any artist lending there music to dubious big business promotional campaigns. I think there's a big difference between Dylan doing something for a super bowl and then going to a jungle. Personally, I don't know what it's like in the UK, but in the states, people do come out better. But they come out better because they found a new avenue to be famous for something. Rarely do they actually recover the actual thing they became famous for in the first place. Like a singer or musician doesn't recover their fame for that. They just gather a new fame as a reality star. It doesn't translate too often to their previous profession.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 9, 2014 4:33:34 GMT -5
Quite considerably for some. I'm a Celebrity... is regarded slightly better than say Big Brother in Britain. I'm not particularly bothered either way if he does it or not but I will never understand the opinion that a couple of weeks in a jungle for tv would invalidate someones career as a musician. Is it any worse than Dylan promoting corporations at the super bowl? Or any artist lending there music to dubious big business promotional campaigns. I think there's a big difference between Dylan doing something for a super bowl and then going to a jungle. Personally, I don't know what it's like in the UK, but in the states, people do come out better. But they come out better because they found a new avenue to be famous for something. Rarely do they actually recover the actual thing they became famous for in the first place. Like a singer or musician doesn't recover their fame for that. They just gather a new fame as a reality star. It doesn't translate too often to their previous profession. Shaun Ryder probably the closest to liam in profession/public opinion prior to the show and all that happened for him was a massive opinion shift. Also he came out too all the press, chat show interviews, he did panel shows, and was on things like through the keyhole which all helped him promote himself/ the tours he was doing (which wouldn't have been available to him before doing the show).. Heaven forbid liam got promotion like that if he goes solo. I'm a celeb isn't some trashy reality show on some shit channel. its a prime time family show 'on a major network' which is hosted by 2 of the most popular presenters in the UK and gets about 12 million viewers (which is huge audience in the UK) I think people just need to make their minds up you mainly hear how liam can't sing anymore, liam can't write a song to save his life, people don't like liam, people never bought BDI Music anyway and lots of other negatives but all of sudden he should get back in the studio straight away. I'm not saying celebrity is the answer at all far from it. Liam needs sway opinion and show his nice funny side if he is to sell any copies of his sitek/ collab record, cos people aren't intersted no matter how good the music might be it won't sell. I hope all this is just tabloid fodder and he changes opinion one interview at a time and builds it slowly he can be the rockstar and still show the other side more and unlike Shaun Ryder liam could still get these opportunities today any paper/chat show would book him.
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Post by nsb86 on Nov 9, 2014 5:25:05 GMT -5
I hope not, I really hope not, he is too good for that show.
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